Re: Star Wars IX: rumors, spoilers beware!!!
I'm confused.
If all the fanboy's hated 8 and 9 is the opposite of 8 wouldn't the fanboy's love 9?
No because literally nowhere did anyone say the Fanboys all hated 8. Half hated 8. Now half hate 9. Both are fundamentally flawed films and in 10 years no one will really think about them.
Honestly, the problem with the entire ST is that it doesnt really tell a story. It tries to but every film contradicts each other and the main cast never really gets a chance to become the main crux of the story. They tried to shoehorn in friendships between everyone but they never let them actually grow into it. Nothing is earned which is why ROS is so rushed. Poe, Finn and Rey are sort of husks of characters, shadows of archetypes trying so hard to be Han, Leia and Luke but never being developed. None of them really have arcs except Rey...and her arc was a mess. JJ and Rian spent so much time either doing fan service or subverting expectations that they forgot that the glue of Star Wars wasnt the cool space scenes and lightsaber battles, it is the relationships between main characters. By the time Han leaves the Rebellion at the end of 4 he and Luke have actually developed as characters together. They know each other and we as an audience know them. The writing might be hacky, but the relationship is there...which is why everyone still gets chills when Ben is talking to Luke, Vader is about to kill him and Han saves the day. The boy who grew up on a worthless Outer Rim planet wishing to be a hero flying in space just saved the entire galaxy with help from his greedy braggadocious space pirate who literally had to be paid to to make the original trip and bribed into saving the Princess. That is more story and character arc than anyone in thin the Sequel Trilogy have in 3 movies.
Clown,
I have said this to you before, and I dont mean this as a slight to you but it is a full on slight to Di$ney, almost no one except the top 1% of fanboys reads those books (or watches the shows) so important plot points being put in them is an epic failure of storytelling. It isnt like they are telling some complex story filled with nuance and detail in these films. It is one thing to have an Easter Egg to Clone Wars in the film, but if the films cant stand on their own they arent good movies. I mean even hardcore fanboys that love the film for its fan service like myself or Keven Smith question parts of the story cause they make no sense and are never explained. (like the Sith Acolytes) Hell we literally watch the Death Star explode in ROTJ...and not just a little explosion the thing is disintegrated! Yet somewhow a very large portion of it crash landed on a moon of Endor and stayed in tact. Then someone made a map on a knife that perfectly matches the wreckage which somehow never changes over like 30 years despite it being in the ocean which is super turbulent. And why would Rey need that anyways since a scavenger like her would look for something the Emperor had in his throne room first anyways...we still dont know how he survived for sure (or if he is truly a clone) or what the heck the shrouded Palpatine Superfans are doing or even what they are. I shouldnt need a book to tell me, that is the movie's job
And this is why I said you just cant think about the details of the film because it will literally ruin it. None of it makes sense. The film is a mish mash of cool set pieces and partial stories with little build up, no background and then you blink and it is over cause we are off to the next set piece. The more I talk about the film and the farther away I get from seeing it on the big screen the more I dont like it. I am actually afraid to watch it again because I think I will hate it on second viewing because of how ridiculous it is.
This is also why the box office is ridiculously underperforming as well. Everyone is seeing the movie, but no one is going back even the hardcores. Yeah it is doing well by the numbers but it is going to make WAY less than TLJ did (this film will struggle to make $500 million DOM as compared to TLJs $620 and internationally it is way down as well) despite being billed as the end of the Saga. I know Di$ney and some of the trades are trying to show it isnt that bad, but this film had much better holiday placement than TLJ did and is still coming in below those numbers. After Jan 1 the BO is going to fall off a cliff. There is a real chance this makes less than Rogue One