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St. Lawrence University 2013-2014: Carey, Carey, carry us to Placid ... And beyond?

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Got 6 said:
I thought the first one was an obvious, lazy cross-check. If Austin checked him or went for the puck, fine, but he clearly just cross-checked the kid in the back. The guy went down like Monica Lewinsky, but it was an obvious penalty.
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I strongly disagree with you. You should have watched the HD version of the game. The Colgate player fell down without even being hit or touched. Sorry, but you clearly missed this one. It cost the team dearly.
 
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Spaceman said:
I strongly disagree with you. You should have watched the HD version of the game. The Colgate player fell down without even being hit or touched. Sorry, but you clearly missed this one. It cost the team dearly.
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I was watching the HD one. Austin hit his square in the back with a two handed cross check. It doesn't matter if the kid took a dive or was going down. It was not a smart penalty and it was a clear penalty.
 
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BigAl said:
Do you think Q is bad for the ecac?
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No. Overall, I think ECAC hockey has benefited from the Q. Let's not forget, the pick came down to Holy Cross and the Q. Holy Cross was unwilling to step up and have a strong program or field a women's team. To pick on the Q now, is to forget what was on the table at the time. They have stepped up an invested in ECAC Hockey while some others have not. They have my respect.
 
Got 6 said:
That's a bit strong. I definitely believe they don't fit. I am inclined to say yes, because what Q-Peck is doing is self-serving and doesn't raise the profile of the league. A team like Q-Peck with easier admissions standards and big spending on hockey wins the NCAA's and most people say "well, they should be good for that kind of spend and that kind of school." A school like Yale wins it, one of the top 2-3 academic schools in the nation and should have no business competing against Minnesota or Denver, and that's good. I don't respect the approach of Q-Peck, and I think Q-Peck pulls down the league academically more than it could ever raise it hockey-wise.
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Q is still a young school. I'd invite everyone to take off your slu glasses and take an unbiased look. I respect your concerns about academics but it's not a coincidence some of the oldest schools in America are the most respected academically. Q was a community college not too long ago and only has been a university for 15 so years
 
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BigAl said:
Q is still a young school. I'd invite everyone to take off your slu glasses and take an unbiased look. I respect your concerns about academics but it's not a coincidence some of the oldest schools in America are the most respected academically. Q was a community college not too long ago and only has been a university for 15 so years
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Big Al........unlike some other posts that talk about academics where Quinnipiac is certainly growing. I agree more with the other comments referring to "fit". The analogy I would make is Quinnipiac is to the ECAC what the early Steinbrenner Yankee's were to baseball. Spending at an alarming rate to promote their athletic programs in a conference where almost no one else spends hardly a dime to promote their hockey programs. That to me is the crux of where I don't think they "fit." Certainly other schools have way more money in their endowments or operating budgets....but that hasn't been the philosophy of the ECAC in general. Lucky for you and your fans that the University is spending on their hockey program like no one else in the conference. But in the long run.........if the balance gets so out of kilter then there what??
 
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I think the issue is simply that if Q could be, they would immediately move to Hockey East.They'd do that because they think they would be a better fit and they would be right. I do not believe that any other team in the ECAC would have any interest in jumping to Hockey East whatsoever (every once in a while RPI pops up in that context but I don't buy it).

I have no 30 year old view of Qpeck because 30 years ago, hadn't heard of Qpeck. I'll freely admit to being a traditionalist and an elitist
With my views colored by 50 rather than 30 years of going to ECAC games . What makes the ECAC so cool to me is the tradition and the history and as Got 6 put it, the shared values. Part of the values have to do with liberal arts style education. I say "style" because even though RPI and Clarkson are primarily for engineering, their values and style mirrors the vibe at Colgate or SLU or Dartmouth. So everything BigAl says, wIth which Ihave no argument, essentially reinforces my point that Qpeck is not a fit for the ECAC and makes way more sense in HEA. Having a great nursing and broadcasting school is a wonderful thing, I'm sure, but it doesn't help the case at all from where I sit. I even think the glossy new rinks are a travesty. Cheel compared to the old Walker Arena feels like a hospital to me. Double that fir the QpeckTDCorporate Arena.
 
critsports said:
Big Al........unlike some other posts that talk about academics where Quinnipiac is certainly growing. I agree more with the other comments referring to "fit". The analogy I would make is Quinnipiac is to the ECAC what the early Steinbrenner Yankee's were to baseball. Spending at an alarming rate to promote their athletic programs in a conference where almost no one else spends hardly a dime to promote their hockey programs. That to me is the crux of where I don't think they "fit." Certainly other schools have way more money in their endowments or operating budgets....but that hasn't been the philosophy of the ECAC in general. Lucky for you and your fans that the University is spending on their hockey program like no one else in the conference. But in the long run.........if the balance gets so out of kilter then there what??
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I see that there is a difference in philosophies. That I understand. But I disagree that q hasn't helped the ecac. Maybe fans of a team in the ecac don't think so but I think people not affiliated with a team see q as a valuable piece.
I guess it's hard for me to hear that fans of teams don't value us. I mean I understand not valuing a team as much as another, I don't value some teams in the ecac much at all but I don't understand someone saying we are bad for the league because I don't think that's the case.
I know this argument could go on and on but we don't need to do that. Good dialogue
 
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Got 6 said:
I actually disagree. I thought the disgrace calls were the non-calls on the picks and interferences and contact away from the puck. I thought the first one was an obvious, lazy cross-check. If Austin checked him or went for the puck, fine, but he clearly just cross-checked the kid in the back. The guy went down like Monica Lewinsky, but it was an obvious penalty.
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I agree %100, first penalty was right in front of me, Gate player did take a crosscheck in the back, but it wasn't that hard and he went down like Lucic had hit him. I asked my buddy, do you think that was a penalty ? Then during the game I was scratching my head about the things they were letting go. Then you have your four referee huddles trying to figure things out, so much indecision.

I would have to say SLU outplayed Gate after the first, tonight will be intense, a third game wouldn't surprise me at all. I still can't figure SLU out, sometimes they seem like two different teams. When they're good, watch out.
 
Re: St. Lawrence University 2013-2014: Carey, Carey, carry us to Placid ... And beyon

Play like there is no tomorrow, fellas. We'll see how these young guys can deal with facing elimination.
 
Re: St. Lawrence University 2013-2014: Carey, Carey, carry us to Placid ... And beyon

And so it ends. But how fitting-Greg Carey scores the final SLU goal of his senior year with assists from two other great seniors-Messers Wick and Baker. Thanks guys (along with Wenie, Riley, Kyle, and Pat) for 4 wonderful (if not a bit disappointing) years. You were never boring. May your futures be bright.


We'll get 'em next year!
 
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Re: St. Lawrence University 2013-2014: Carey, Carey, carry us to Placid ... And beyon

Two seasons now under our "new regime" and both end with eerily similar results. I'm personally okay with this season being over with, it sucks for the seniors but this was just a nightmare of a season!!! If we can't get it done with the talent on this team (many of them being seniors) then it doesn't hold much hope for our future. Sorry if that's too harsh for anyone, but it's just my opinion and how I honestly feel. I understand some won't agree and that's okay too, but I just have been shown nothing to be hopeful for. As for the ECAC tournament this coming weekend, let's hope Clarkson pulls it out tomorrow night or we could be seeing a smaller than expected/hoped attendance figure :o
 
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saintsdad said:
And so it ends. But how fitting-Greg Carey scores the final SLU goal of his senior year with assists from two other great seniors-Messers Wick and Baker. Thanks guys (along with Wenie, Riley, Kyle, and Pat) for 4 wonderful (if not a bit disappointing) years. You were never boring. May your futures be bright.


We'll get 'em next year!
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Yes thank you seniors as well for a terrific four years of dedication and class. Good luck in your future endeavors!
 
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Saints#1 said:
Two seasons now under our "new regime" and both end with eerily similar results. I'm personally okay with this season being over with, it sucks for the seniors but this was just a nightmare of a season!!! If we can't get it done with the talent on this team (many of them being seniors) then it doesn't hold much hope for our future. Sorry if that's too harsh for anyone, but it's just my opinion and how I honestly feel. I understand some won't agree and that's okay too, but I just have been shown nothing to be hopeful for. As for the ECAC tournament this coming weekend, let's hope Clarkson pulls it out tomorrow night or we could be seeing a smaller than expected/hoped attendance figure :o
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IMH(and novice)O, I honestly think the problem is the transition from Coach Marsh to Coach Carvel. Coach Marsh recruited the seniors and juniors, but the seniors only got to play for him for 1 year, and the juniors never played for him at all. In both cases though, they were recruited for Coach Marsh's system, but had to play for Coach Carvel's. How many of them would be at SLU if Coach Carvel had been doing the recruiting, or would we see a different group? I think the latter. The sophomores were recruited at a time when we had a coach-to-be-named-later, not a good recruiting tool. The FY's are Coach Carvel's first real class, and look at the promise they've shown.

I foresee another couple tough years, but I also foresee some real good years in our future once we've got a team that's been recruited for and plays Coach Carvel's approach.
 
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Thanks to the seniors for your many contributions. My only regret is that it seemed like just yesterday when you were freshmen. Time sure does fly, and each of you will be really missed going forward. Thanks again, guys.
 
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saintsdad said:
IMH(and novice)O, I honestly think the problem is the transition from Coach Marsh to Coach Carvel. Coach Marsh recruited the seniors and juniors, but the seniors only got to play for him for 1 year, and the juniors never played for him at all. In both cases though, they were recruited for Coach Marsh's system, but had to play for Coach Carvel's. How many of them would be at SLU if Coach Carvel had been doing the recruiting, or would we see a different group? I think the latter. The sophomores were recruited at a time when we had a coach-to-be-named-later, not a good recruiting tool. The FY's are Coach Carvel's first real class, and look at the promise they've shown.

I foresee another couple tough years, but I also foresee some real good years in our future once we've got a team that's been recruited for and plays Coach Carvel's approach.
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Bingo. Couldn't agree more.
 
Re: St. Lawrence University 2013-2014: Carey, Carey, carry us to Placid ... And beyon

I just wanted to say that St. Lawrence didn't go down without a fight - in BOTH games. Both last night and tonight you guys scored to make it a 1-goal game late in the 3rd. In both games you guys played all the way to the final horn. Greg Carey didn't want tonight to be his last game in a St. Lawrence uniform, and he scored 2 goals tonight and had an assist last night.

I also remember a SLU fan posting on our thread after you defeated us last season, mentioning that we were going to be a dangerous team going into this season and beyond. Whoever said that was right. Good luck to your seniors in their future endeavors, and we'll meet again next season.
 
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saintsdad said:
IMH(and novice)O, I honestly think the problem is the transition from Coach Marsh to Coach Carvel. Coach Marsh recruited the seniors and juniors, but the seniors only got to play for him for 1 year, and the juniors never played for him at all. In both cases though, they were recruited for Coach Marsh's system, but had to play for Coach Carvel's. How many of them would be at SLU if Coach Carvel had been doing the recruiting, or would we see a different group? I think the latter. The sophomores were recruited at a time when we had a coach-to-be-named-later, not a good recruiting tool. The FY's are Coach Carvel's first real class, and look at the promise they've shown.

I foresee another couple tough years, but I also foresee some real good years in our future once we've got a team that's been recruited for and plays Coach Carvel's approach.
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I actually agree, in most respects. However, when I made my post, I was kinda being a little near sighted. I do think once the new regime has some time to get his full recruits on board we could be a strong team again, but I think the next couple years could be rebuilding years. Not something I had hoped to be saying when let's face it, St. Lawrence hockey has been already battling some rebuilding years the past few years. I'm sick of losing and would like to think we could be a consistently winning program. I would prefer not to have to wait a few years (I mean, who would?), but it appears we may not have much of a choice :(
 
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