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St. Cloud State at Nebraska-Omaha

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I fully understand your point. I just find it annoying when people take sharp attacks at these kids with the convenience of anonymity. That's right, they are kids. And in Taylor's case he is in the middle of his sophomore year. He will continue to develop and improve.
 
Bronzebacks said:
I fully understand your point. I just find it annoying when people take sharp attacks at these kids with the convenience of anonymity. That's right, they are kids. And in Taylor's case he is in the middle of his sophomore year. He will continue to develop and improve.
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Sorry, they aren't.
Each one of these guys is over 18 and playing in the last level before they get paid to play this great game, they can be criticized for poor play.
In Johnson's case, he's more offense than defense but he is just a sophomore and can improve, but he's not above criticism.
He's also not the worst blueliner I've seen on this team.
 
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Bronzebacks said:
I fully understand your point. I just find it annoying when people take sharp attacks at these kids with the convenience of anonymity. That's right, they are kids. And in Taylor's case he is in the middle of his sophomore year. He will continue to develop and improve.
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Some of them are kids. Barta is 24 years old, I hardly call him a kid. Gravel on the other hand is still 18 and I can see him being considered a kid.
 
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Dude Love said:
Offensive output aside, I'd have to put Duvie Westcott on that list. Boy he stunk.
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:confused: Duvie's strong point was his offensive game, but you don't make it to the NHL if you can't play in your own end. Hell I don't think there has been one defenseman since he left better than him. On a side note The power play would be around 25% if he was running the point with this team....:)
 
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First Time said:
Sorry, they aren't.
Each one of these guys is over 18 and playing in the last level before they get paid to play this great game, they can be criticized for poor play.
In Johnson's case, he's more offense than defense but he is just a sophomore and can improve, but he's not above criticism.
He's also not the worst blueliner I've seen on this team.
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I think a better way to put would be if you want fame you have to live with everything that goes with it. If you don't want fame don't be a D1 athlete. I am sure Mr. johnson is at least getting some of his education paid for so that even adds another level of reason why these guys are different than say some high school kid.

On Johnson, I think he has a chance to be a decent player. He needs to do a better job in his own defensive zone and he needs to learn when to shoot and when to pass. Way to many of his shots get blocked. He can be a crafty player he needs to use that skill more often.

where are all the UNO fans?
 
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First Time said:
Sorry, they aren't.
Each one of these guys is over 18 and playing in the last level before they get paid to play this great game, they can be criticized for poor play.
In Johnson's case, he's more offense than defense but he is just a sophomore and can improve, but he's not above criticism.
He's also not the worst blueliner I've seen on this team.
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Alot of times I hear the rational that if they are taking money in the form of a scholarship to attend college,we have the right to boo and criticize them. Look at this a different way....My daughter is a 19 year old college sophomore who recently changed majors, and because of it, lost a substantial science based scholarship...not because her GPA didn't meet the criteria...but because it was strictly a scholarship for someone in a science based major. Do you want to criticize her because she took money for a year and a half that someone else could have used? I have a hard time figuring out what value is gained by calling out ANYONE by name that is playing college athletics, regardless of age. "Playing at the last level before they get paid to play"? Do you have a clue how many of these guys will be paid when they leave? Sure...most of them could play in the ECHL, but, most guys in the ECHL could not afford their own apartment and a decent car payment on the ECHL average monthly check of around $2200.
 
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Was Johnson on the pp last Saturday? The one who kept shooting into the midsection of the Maverick players?
 
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I can only hope your team has the same chemistry as you fans do here! :eek:
scsutommyboy said:
where are all the UNO fans?
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Seriously, I guess I could try and get this thread back on track...

Here's some recent info on our team:
http://www.omaha.com/article/20110203/MAVS01/110209921#mavericks-rookie-class-leading-way-in-wcha

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8:45 a.m. Thursday: Heading into this weekend's home series against St. Cloud State, here's some interesting numbers to chew on -- stats that add even more weight to the impressive job Dean Blais, Mike Hastings, Nick Fohr (and don't forget that Mike Kemp was in on a couple of these recruits, too) did in putting together the Mavs' 2010-11 rookie class.

As pointed out by UNO director of media relations Dave Ahlers, the Mavs' freshman class is up to No. 4 in the NCAA for point production on the numerous lists crunched by collegehockeystats.net. Notre Dame's remarkable rookie class (61 goals, 148 points and 4.93 points per game) is far and away the leader in this category. No. 2 is Union, followed by Connecticut, the Mavs and Massachusetts. Those five schools are the only ones with freshman classes averaging 3.00 ppg or better. 

UNO's rookies now lead the WCHA in piling up points, having accounted for 38 goals, 43 assists, 81 points and 3.12 ppg. Freshmen have had a hand in 43 percent of UNO's goals and 33 percent of the team's points.

Here's to believing we will put some goals into the net, no matter who your goalie is this weekend.
 
wchaforever said:
Alot of times I hear the rational that if they are taking money in the form of a scholarship to attend college,we have the right to boo and criticize them. Look at this a different way....My daughter is a 19 year old college sophomore who recently changed majors, and because of it, lost a substantial science based scholarship...not because her GPA didn't meet the criteria...but because it was strictly a scholarship for someone in a science based major. Do you want to criticize her because she took money for a year and a half that someone else could have used? I have a hard time figuring out what value is gained by calling out ANYONE by name that is playing college athletics, regardless of age. "Playing at the last level before they get paid to play"? Do you have a clue how many of these guys will be paid when they leave? Sure...most of them could play in the ECHL, but, most guys in the ECHL could not afford their own apartment and a decent car payment on the ECHL average monthly check of around $2200.
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Sorry for what your daughter went through, but no one pays to watch her study, no one pays money to watch her in class.
People pay to watch these guys play hockey and like it or not, they are going to be criticized when they don't play well.
All of these guys may not play pro hockey but i'd bet they all had that aspiration when they signed a D1 letter of intent.
If they don't want to ever be criticized, they shouldn't be playing D1 hockey.
 
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First Time said:
Sorry for what your daughter went through, but no one pays to watch her study, no one pays money to watch her in class.
People pay to watch these guys play hockey and like it or not, they are going to be criticized when they don't play well.
All of these guys may not play pro hockey but i'd bet they all had that aspiration when they signed a D1 letter of intent.
If they don't want to ever be criticized, they shouldn't be playing D1 hockey.
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Oh hell...don't feel sorry for her...she loves the switch to her new chosen major (which, who knows, may still only be another temporary one). Don't get me wrong. I have booed at games, but believe it or not, don't anymore. I guess I have taken the philosophy that none of these kids want to fail in front of 5000 people. If anyone doesn't think that that embarrassment doesn't drive these guys to want to succeed, they haven't see the disappointment after a major screw up on these kids faces. They know they have messed up big time. They don't want to mess up big time. They want to succeed every opportunity they have, but it doesn't happen. So, why should that be a license to boo a 18, 19, 20, 21 year old kid because you have forked over a crummy $20 or whatever amount to hope to be entertained? Is that 20 spot that freaking important to you that it makes it feel better to rip some college hockey player at the top of your expanded lungs because some kid who is way more talented than him just burned him? keep it in context.
 
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wchaforever said:
Alot of times I hear the rational that if they are taking money in the form of a scholarship to attend college,we have the right to boo and criticize them. Look at this a different way....My daughter is a 19 year old college sophomore who recently changed majors, and because of it, lost a substantial science based scholarship...not because her GPA didn't meet the criteria...but because it was strictly a scholarship for someone in a science based major. Do you want to criticize her because she took money for a year and a half that someone else could have used? I have a hard time figuring out what value is gained by calling out ANYONE by name that is playing college athletics, regardless of age. "Playing at the last level before they get paid to play"? Do you have a clue how many of these guys will be paid when they leave? Sure...most of them could play in the ECHL, but, most guys in the ECHL could not afford their own apartment and a decent car payment on the ECHL average monthly check of around $2200.
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I see a lot people try to use your seasoning and it is just as flawed as my point of view. Do people pay good money to watch your daughter go to school? No they don't so it is not even close to the same thing so to use that as an example makes no sense. When a player chooses to play D1 college hockey especially at a WCHA school they should know what they are getting into. This year I moved down to only two tickets so it cost me $800 to watch these kids play hockey. The last few years I had four tickets so it cost me double to watch them play. These are not high school kids and shouldn't be treated the same way. You are correct, they are not pro athletes, but they are public figures and when I am paying good money to watch them play I should be able to comment on their play. I wlll say this though, a lot us on here and this goes for me could probably tone it down a little on how we criticize these kids and not be so harsh, but that is completely different then not saying anything at all.
 
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I paid my own way thru college, and no one criticized me. I usually only rip people behind their backs. However, I always speak the truth.
 
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Bronzebacks said:
Come on Tipsy. This is pretty chicken ****. If you are going to call a kid out like that, man up and attach your real name to your post.

I have to admit he can be frustrating to watch at times. Largely due to ill advised penalties. I have seen him make great plays and he has a solid shot from the blue line. But he has plenty room for improvement.
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Bb, I have read enough of your posts to actually think that you know what you're talking about, but I have to completely disagree with you on this one. Like it or not, people are allowed to criticize anyone. They can criticize high school players if they want. Its my personal opinion that they SHOULDN'T, but somewhere in Texas, fans feel differently about their high school football games. And D-I athletes in the best collegiate league in a team sport, yeah, they are completely feel game.

Dude Love said:
I can think of at least a five who are way worse: Mike Walsh, Lee Brooks, Matt Gens, Jon Ammerman, Matt Francis.
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What? I loved Matt Gens. :D
 
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scsutommyboy said:
:confused: Duvie's strong point was his offensive game, but you don't make it to the NHL if you can't play in your own end. Hell I don't think there has been one defenseman since he left better than him. On a side note The power play would be around 25% if he was running the point with this team....:)
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Why the confused face? You just agreed with me! And Vanek played no defense in college but he's a top 20 forward in the NHL.
 
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