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Shannon Miller
- Thread starter Reggie44
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That's terrible. I feel like that could knock me out of the women's hockey ballgame 
Re: Shannon Miller
Wish I would have never read that article. I threw up when I saw the amount. And all of us little guys are afraid to take part in class action suits over owed wages in fear of being blackballed from our industries. She complained that she couldn’t find work—after suing her previous employer after not having her contract extended that is... the amount of $ people get for emotional distress is outrageous. University owed her nothing it’s a cut throat job she should know and accept that as a coach. Just like there have been many girls who gave poured their hearts out playing for her only to be cut for not producing results. This should have been settled I can’t say she didn’t have some valid complaints but millions is outrageous. The mens program pays for the womens existence yet she complains about unequal treatment, argh
Wish I would have never read that article. I threw up when I saw the amount. And all of us little guys are afraid to take part in class action suits over owed wages in fear of being blackballed from our industries. She complained that she couldn’t find work—after suing her previous employer after not having her contract extended that is... the amount of $ people get for emotional distress is outrageous. University owed her nothing it’s a cut throat job she should know and accept that as a coach. Just like there have been many girls who gave poured their hearts out playing for her only to be cut for not producing results. This should have been settled I can’t say she didn’t have some valid complaints but millions is outrageous. The mens program pays for the womens existence yet she complains about unequal treatment, argh
robertearle
Well-known member
Re: Shannon Miller
Does the state of Minnesota or UMD specifically 'punish' the women's hockey program over the amount (assuming it stands on appeal, etc)? Could this actually put the program in jeopary, ala U of North Dakota? That would be the worst outcome of all here.
Does the state of Minnesota or UMD specifically 'punish' the women's hockey program over the amount (assuming it stands on appeal, etc)? Could this actually put the program in jeopary, ala U of North Dakota? That would be the worst outcome of all here.
That couldn’t be how the UND womens program folded without cuts to mens in addition. Thought title IX was a federal ruling. But the state of ND and MN are completely different
Blackbeard
Well-known member
Re: Shannon Miller
So how much did the liars Berlo and Black save UMD?
$3.74M /$215K (I think is how much she was earning) = 17.39 years of salary.
These two are complete pinheads in addition to being lying lowlifes... a disgrace and an embarrassment to UMD. An institution of higher learning. Yeah...well represented.
So how much did the liars Berlo and Black save UMD?
$3.74M /$215K (I think is how much she was earning) = 17.39 years of salary.
These two are complete pinheads in addition to being lying lowlifes... a disgrace and an embarrassment to UMD. An institution of higher learning. Yeah...well represented.
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There isn't a college men's hockey program anywhere at any level that pays for the women's hockey program. People that keep thinking and posting this stupid notion just don't have a clue.
Re: Shannon Miller
A) This award will be appealed and probably be reduced
B) Totally worth it. That is about 2 years cost for running the program. Yeah a lot of money but not having her toxic presence around the team is worth it.
A) This award will be appealed and probably be reduced
B) Totally worth it. That is about 2 years cost for running the program. Yeah a lot of money but not having her toxic presence around the team is worth it.
Blackbeard
Well-known member
Re: Shannon Miller
The article didn't say anything about the other two...Banford and the bassetball coach whose name I can't recall?
Were they awarded anything or are their cases yet to be heard?
The article didn't say anything about the other two...Banford and the bassetball coach whose name I can't recall?
Were they awarded anything or are their cases yet to be heard?
ZedLeppelin
Motormouth
Re: Shannon Miller
I haven't done much of any reading about the case, but it didn't take much reading to agree with this. Berlo especially comes off as a real doofus.
Apparently, too, Miller had legitimate Title IX complaints at UMD that went nowhere. Discard all the personal dislike you might have for her and you're still left with Title IX complaints (and I don't know what those were), and the jury found that the complaints had merit.
I haven't done much of any reading about the case, but it didn't take much reading to agree with this. Berlo especially comes off as a real doofus.
Apparently, too, Miller had legitimate Title IX complaints at UMD that went nowhere. Discard all the personal dislike you might have for her and you're still left with Title IX complaints (and I don't know what those were), and the jury found that the complaints had merit.
Still Eeyore
New member
Re: Shannon Miller
I will repeat that the NCAA and its member schools can not use this argument in court, even if it were true. They have claimed, under oath, many times, that revenue generation is not a consideration in how they run their athletic programs. This claim has been essential to winning cases that keep scholarship athletes from being considered employees of the university. They long ago determined that not being legally responsible for the health related damages for those injured in NCAA competition (see: Marc Buoniconti) and not needing to share any of the proceeds from licensing of the athletes' names is more important to them.
Thus, they have no defense when accused of unequal treatment. That's not Shannon Miller's fault.
I will repeat that the NCAA and its member schools can not use this argument in court, even if it were true. They have claimed, under oath, many times, that revenue generation is not a consideration in how they run their athletic programs. This claim has been essential to winning cases that keep scholarship athletes from being considered employees of the university. They long ago determined that not being legally responsible for the health related damages for those injured in NCAA competition (see: Marc Buoniconti) and not needing to share any of the proceeds from licensing of the athletes' names is more important to them.
Thus, they have no defense when accused of unequal treatment. That's not Shannon Miller's fault.
Still Eeyore
New member
Re: Shannon Miller
My guess is that you know next to nothing about Title IX enforcement.
My guess is that you know next to nothing about Title IX enforcement.
pokechecker
Banned
Re: Shannon Miller
as if you do
"She said she’ll continue to apply for open college hockey jobs and would be honored to have a chance to become the first female coach in the National Hockey League."
maybe she can use the money to pay a shrink to deal with her lost sense of reality
as if you do
"She said she’ll continue to apply for open college hockey jobs and would be honored to have a chance to become the first female coach in the National Hockey League."
maybe she can use the money to pay a shrink to deal with her lost sense of reality
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Shannon Miller
In this environment of guilty before proved innocent, even if the UMD leadership did everything right, I doubt they would have won a jury trial.
In this environment of guilty before proved innocent, even if the UMD leadership did everything right, I doubt they would have won a jury trial.
She should open her own legal consulting firm! I wonder if she ranks this victory right up there with her national championships. With being awarded that amount of money she's got to be considered the "winningest" college coach in history!
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pokechecker
Banned
Re: Shannon Miller
Feb 3-
BANFORD, WILES CASES DISMISSED
https://www.twincities.com/2018/02/...-filed-by-3-former-umd-womens-sports-coaches/
The decision marked the end of the road for Banford and Wiles in federal court.Both submitted their resignations within six months of Miller’s non-renewal, echoing Miller’s comments about a hostile work environment and an unequal playing field for women’s sports at UMD.
Banford was informed at the time of Miller’s non-renewal that her role as hockey operations director would come to an end. University officials said that was a standard move with a change in head coaches, but that they always intended to retain Banford as softball coach.
Schiltz said he saw no evidence to the contrary, writing that Banford offered “scant” argument that she was forced from her softball position.
The judge also was skeptical of Banford’s claim that she was treated unfairly due to her gender.
Feb 3-
BANFORD, WILES CASES DISMISSED
https://www.twincities.com/2018/02/...-filed-by-3-former-umd-womens-sports-coaches/
The decision marked the end of the road for Banford and Wiles in federal court.Both submitted their resignations within six months of Miller’s non-renewal, echoing Miller’s comments about a hostile work environment and an unequal playing field for women’s sports at UMD.
Banford was informed at the time of Miller’s non-renewal that her role as hockey operations director would come to an end. University officials said that was a standard move with a change in head coaches, but that they always intended to retain Banford as softball coach.
Schiltz said he saw no evidence to the contrary, writing that Banford offered “scant” argument that she was forced from her softball position.
The judge also was skeptical of Banford’s claim that she was treated unfairly due to her gender.
Re: Shannon Miller
City Pages-
fairly in depth piece on Miller's case
http://www.citypages.com/news/shann...victim-or-an-overpaid-college-coach/476952703
City Pages-
fairly in depth piece on Miller's case
http://www.citypages.com/news/shann...victim-or-an-overpaid-college-coach/476952703
FiveHoleFrenzy
Well-known member
Re: Shannon Miller
And there it is...The sequined jacket shows up in the picture, in the article.
And there it is...The sequined jacket shows up in the picture, in the article.
Re: Shannon Miller
Extensive look at the discrimination and gender equity issues facing women's college coaches. Much of the article is about Shannon Miller's case. And you'll be surprised to learn what she's doing today.
http://www.startribune.com/women-in...win-in-court-and-then-lose-careers/482942381/
Extensive look at the discrimination and gender equity issues facing women's college coaches. Much of the article is about Shannon Miller's case. And you'll be surprised to learn what she's doing today.
http://www.startribune.com/women-in...win-in-court-and-then-lose-careers/482942381/