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SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

I didn't lose it, I sacrificed it to the college hockey gods and got a road sweep in Duluth for it.

That being said, I am more and more convinced one of you two stole it while I was passed out!

The world is better for you losing it. It's a conspiracy!
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

By the way, garish is maybe a poor choice of words. My wife thought Biddco looked like like he was a wayward soul looking for a "Sesame Street Live" filming. From a distance, he looked like a Sesame Street character.
Quoted for awesomeness. Love it.
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

I am one of those people that thinks the new arena is too small and I'll argue that point to my dying breath.

But, I agree that the "UNO Marketing Department" is an absolute utter joke (if it even really exists).

You don't build an arena that seats 7,399 (what it is now being said is the final capacity number) when you have averaged more fans than that per game in 9 out of 16 years of the program's existence. And, in many of those seasons, the team stunk to the high heaven. This is simple "Business 101" type logic. Plus, as you said, the team is poorly promoted. That's an understatement, in my book. Imagine what might be possible if the team was well promoted and was a consistent performer.

Building an arena this small in the middle of a major metropolitan area that has a 3 decades long history of outstanding support for hockey in general is going to a be an albatross around the neck of this program from the day it opens unless they build it so that it can be expanded, much the same way they did the Qwest (now CenturyLink) Center.

For those that don't know, UNO, in it's 16 season existence, has played to well over 150 nights where there were more than 7,399 people in the building, to give you some perspective. This program has played to numerous nights (more than a dozen) where there was more than 10,000 people in the building. They have played to crowds larger than 12,000 on at least 5 occasions and crowds over 15,000 on a couple of those.

The Omaha Storm Chasers built their own baseball stadium here in Omaha three seasons ago right here in Papillion, where I live. Their argument was that the Rosenblatt Stadium capacity was too large and this somehow hurt attendance (a specious argument of the worst kind). They moved into their new, much smaller digs when built and promptly won their first AAA Championship since 1990, and, attendance went down from the season before!. In a new stadium with a championship team!

In the FWIW department, there should more than 7,399 in the building both nights this weekend. Quite a bit more, maybe, on Friday night (although I will temper this by saying the weather is looking a little dicey this weekend, now).

At a minimum, UNO needs a building that seats around 10,000 people. I'd live with that. If it were up to me, I'd make it 12,000. 7,399 is ridiculous. UNO has a proven track record that they can put fannies in those seats. I also think attendance would be further helped by where the new arena is going to be (smack dab in the middle of the city's population center) as opposed to downtown, which is an enormous jaunt (by Omaha standards) back downtown for anybody living out west on a Friday night. This is the reason the reason UNO always has bigger crowds for Saturday night games than Friday night games. Better still, since the new arena is now on-campus, the student attendance (which is now poor) should be affected pretty dramatically.

I, for one, am very unhappy with the what is purported to be the new arena size and I have let the athletic department know it, too. And, I am FAR from alone on this topic.


If you want to build a 12,000 seat mausoleum that's cool but there is no home ice advantage there in a half empty building.
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

If you want to build a 12,000 seat mausoleum that's cool but there is no home ice advantage there in a half empty building.

UNO sold out every single game they ever played in the Omaha Civic Auditorium, capacity 8,314, before moving to the Clink.

That's 131 consecutive games.

8,314 is almost exactly 70% of 12,000.
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

UNO sold out every single game they ever played in the Omaha Civic Auditorium, capacity 8,314, before moving to the Clink.

That's 131 consecutive games.

8,314 is almost exactly 70% of 12,000.

And when was that? (I'm unfamiliar)

If you ask me, building a facility too much larger than what is suggested for capacity would be a huge mistake, especially based on UNO's current average attendance. You want a full rink so it's intimidating for opposing teams. A 70% full rink is not intimidating.
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

Wasn't pretty, D still has some coverage issues to fix, but a win is a win.
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

Can somebody please explain to me why Coach Blais elected to start a freshman goaltender in a game of this import? A guy that had never started a collegiate game before and who, before tonight, had all of 91 minutes in goal to his credit for his career, along with a couple losses, and a stellar .885 save percentage? I mean, what is he thinking?

I know Massa is supposedly dinged up, somehow, but Kirk Thompson would have been my choice if Massa couldn't go and Massa was NOT a scratch tonight, either, so I have questions about just how dinged up he really is/was.

Predictably, Reed Peters looked exactly like what he was, a freshman making his 1st collegiate start against the #5 team in the country. Two of the goals he gave up were inexcusable, particularly the 4th one that gave SCSU the lead that they would not relinquish.

Merry Christmas, St Cloud State.
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

Can somebody please explain to me why Coach Blais elected to start a freshman goaltender in a game of this import? A guy that had never started a collegiate game before and who, before tonight, had all of 91 minutes in goal to his credit for his career, along with a couple losses, and a stellar .885 save percentage? I mean, what is he thinking?

I know Massa is supposedly dinged up, somehow, but Kirk Thompson would have been my choice if Massa couldn't go and Massa was NOT a scratch tonight, either, so I have questions about just how dinged up he really is/was.

Predictably, Reed Peters looked exactly like what he was, a freshman making his 1st collegiate start against the #5 team in the country. Two of the goals he gave up were inexcusable, particularly the 4th one that gave SCSU the lead that they would not relinquish.

Merry Christmas, St Cloud State.

And a Happy New Year to you!
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

Can somebody please explain to me why Coach Blais elected to start a freshman goaltender in a game of this import? A guy that had never started a collegiate game before and who, before tonight, had all of 91 minutes in goal to his credit for his career, along with a couple losses, and a stellar .885 save percentage? I mean, what is he thinking?

He is thinking that your other goalies stink, so why not throw out the third guy? Both Massa and Thompson have a save percentage under .89, I don't blame him.
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

Hindsight is always 20/20.
If Peters sbuts us out, you aren't complaining.
Good teams find a way to win, that's what we did.
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

He is thinking that your other goalies stink, so why not throw out the third guy? Both Massa and Thompson have a save percentage under .89, I don't blame him.

You are correct and Coach Blais kinda alluded to this postgame last night. Why he can't seem to get and/or keep a competent goaltender is a mystery to me since this has been a need since he arrived, really. We're like a good football team with a lousy kicker.

My bad, by the way, Peters actually did start our November 16th game with Michigan (and took the loss). I just forgot that he had. We've played musical goaltenders so much this season that its been a challenge to remember who did what, when.

This morning in the paper was the first time this season, really, that Coach Blais sounded p.o.'ed. Particularly with the forward play but he also singled out goaltending as well.

FYI, as the season has worn on, their has been more and more grumbling in the fanbase about Coach Blais, which most outsiders might be surprised by. He's used an awful lot of the coupons that were in his book, if you know what I mean. It isn't lost on UNO fans that his best success(es) here has/have come with his predecessor's (Mike Kemp) players. Once they were gone, it's been 3 seasons, working on four, of utter 2nd half melt-downs.

Great crowd last night, though, 10,368 on hand, largest so far this season. Looks like tonight will be more in the realm of about 8,000 or so.The Lancer's are home tonight and that cannibalizes UNO a bit.

Need to go get'em tonight.
 
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Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

There is no way there were 10k in the building last night, that was the announced attendance. But I will admit that was the best crowd I have seen in that building by FAR.

And you realize that he gave up that Gravel goal (the 4th) because he didn't see it right?

We were badly outshot in the first and for part of the second but I felt like the scoring chances were about even and then by the end, clearly in our favor. Good road win, and now we're playing with house money. As the scsuhockey.com saying goes, "Just. Win. Friday."

On a side note: I have not been to every bar in Omaha, but I'm pretty sure I found the worst won. 415 anybody? However, I also found PepperJax and that giant slide, so its all good. :)
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

There is no way there were 10k in the building last night, that was the announced attendance. But I will admit that was the best crowd I have seen in that building by FAR.

And you realize that he gave up that Gravel goal (the 4th) because he didn't see it right?

We were badly outshot in the first and for part of the second but I felt like the scoring chances were about even and then by the end, clearly in our favor. Good road win, and now we're playing with house money. As the scsuhockey.com saying goes, "Just. Win. Friday."

On a side note: I have not been to every bar in Omaha, but I'm pretty sure I found the worst won. 415 anybody? However, I also found PepperJax and that giant slide, so its all good. :)

The announced attendance IS the turnstile count at all UNO games. My wife and I play "guess-the-attendance" at the end of the first period every single night with one another and my guess last night was 10,000 on the nose. I think you are forgetting how big this venue is. The capacity number you get from various web sites like wikipedia (including the school's!) is WRONG. The explanation for this is lengthy and I'll get into it if asked, but, the building actually seats 17,100 for hockey:

http://www.centurylinkcenteromaha.com/Arena/ArenaInformation/Specifications.aspx

Even a crowd of 10,000 looks lost (and smaller than you think) in a building that size. Since the '03-'04 season, when UNO moved into this facility, I've had more than 250 opportunities to hone my "guess the attendance" skills, too.

Dunno if Peters was screened or not. Noticeably absent from any postgame report(s) is any quote from Peters actually saying he was. And, despite interviews by the local media of any number of other players about the game, not one of them addressed this, either. Coach Blais did say he was, but, by the same token he was still less than complimentary about Peters' performance, too:

“Reed Peters did OK, but in this league unfortunately you need better than OK,” Blais said.

I've never been in 415. Sucked how? I've heard it is "ratty" though. Definitely not on the beaten path for the hockey crowd here.
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

I realize its a huge venue, but there were so many empty seats in the lower level it was insane. Then they had the nerve to tell us the lower bowl was "sold out." Yeah, thanks.

The 415 was just a hole in the wall, which isn't necessarily terrible, but I am pretty sure I could have scored any drug I wanted in ten minutes. Terribly lit and loud would go along with that too, and the music wasn't good and it wasn't even the genre, it was the specific songs the DJ was playing, which btw he was way more excited about that music than anyone else was. Not a terrible, terrible bar, but if you've gone once that's plenty... maybe one too many times
 
Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

I realize its a huge venue, but there were so many empty seats in the lower level it was insane. Then they had the nerve to tell us the lower bowl was "sold out." Yeah, thanks.

The only way I can really explin this, then, is to explain the whole "capacity thing" at the Clink.

When the Centurylink Center (then the Qwest Center) first opened in fall '03, it was smaller than it is, now. There were no upper level seats at all at one end of the arena. This was "filled in" in 2006, giving you the arena you see today.

Next, the school does not have control of all the seats in the facility. Many of the choice seats (read: lower bowl) are owned by seat license holders that have been sold to them for the City of Omaha by MECA which operates this building, the Civic Auditorium, and TD Amertrade Park for the city:

http://www.centurylinkcenteromaha.com/arena/PremiumSeating/ClubSeating.aspx

The lower bowl WAS sold out last night. It just didn't look like it because many of these seats are owned by seat license holders who care not one whit about UNO hockey and don't use/have them for that purpose. Many, many of these people are too lazy to peddle them on the secondary open market and, as a result, there are usually the same seats sitting empty night after night when UNO plays. Since these seats are under license for 5 years at a time and each seat cost upwards of 10 grand each the amount of dollars represented by 25 hockey games for the owners is relatively small and apparently not on too many people's radar screen.

As an aside, this is the reason why, even though my seats are on the goal line that UNO shoots at twice, they are also the most expensive seats in the building, and best, available-to-me, season tickets in the building. License holders and/or other UNO season ticket holders have all the "better" seats.

These situations have led to all sorts of numbers being bandied about as to building (hockey) capacity ever since the place was built.

These are the numbers you will see:

1. The hockey capacity as originally built.
2. The hockey capacity as originally built less the number of seats the school has no control over (and, derives NO revenue from, either).
3. The hockey capacity after the 2006 addition.
4. The hockey capacity after the 2006 addition less the number of seats the school has no control over.

Now, further complicating this, is the fact that the old Qwest Center web site for the facility named a different hockey capacity for the building than the new Centurylink Center one does (and it is a higher number), which is the link in my previous post. This adds the new Centurylink web site number to the mix as well as that number less the amount of license holders.

Talk about a unnecessarily complicated mess.

This situation caused UNO to (falsely) claim a sell-out on the night of January 13th, 2012 against UMD as the announced crowd was 16,138. Yeah, they may have sold all the seats THEY control for that game, but, as we have seen, the building seats more than that number for hockey. And, I don't say so, the building's own management does.

Because of these circumstances, I don't know how UNO could ever really make a sell-out claim in this facility. They don't control all the seats!

But, I will reiterate, the City/MECA has said publicly here in the past that they announce the actual turnstile count.

Whether this is actually true or not...............
 
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Re: SCSU @ UNO Fri/Sat Jan 31st/Feb 1st: We Wanna Fight, Where's Matt White?!?

Who is in between the pipes for SCSU?
 
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