SCSU Season Thread 2-Do We Hate Everybody as Much as They Hate Us?

[upperdeckguy]

Re: SCSU Season Thread 2-Do We Hate Everybody as Much as They Hate Us?

I understand Marvin getting a longer suspension for the second hit which was to the head, but what I don't understand is intentional cheap shots that were premeditated such as the Ben Blood elbow that Marvin took or the multiple slashes to the back of the legs by Zajac and Hextall on Roe aren't things that players are suspended for.

Also keep watching the video of the hit on Geoffrion and see where the Wisconsin players stick catches the Husky player as he ciccles around. But I guess a blow to the head only counts against one team.

 

[First Time Long Time]

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Yeah, Bruce was sitting around reading these forums, and from that decided to implement because VarsityWisconsin was whining.

This had nothing to do with anything said on any forum, its them trying to make up for what they feel was a mistake, and they end up making a bigger one.

That's not what I said.
Of course he's not reading the boards, but you're crazy if you think he isn't aware of the articles written about the hit and the whining that followed.
Yes it is a make up for their screw up before, but part of it is also PR.

 

[HumRsky]

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I just watched the Geoffrion hit for the first time, and I'm of the opinion that the Genoway hit was dirty and Marvin should have been suspended for longer, but that hit really didn't look intentionally dirty whatsoever. I have no problem with hits like that being called minor penalties, even though they haven't in the past, because blows to the head need to be eliminated. However, the next time a Wisconsin (or NoDak) player is suspended for a similar hit (hopefully for only one game, I really think 3 is a make-up for the Genoway hit) they are going to whine and complain just like always that hits like that "are part of hockey."

I also agree that slashes like Zajac's to the back of the legs of a player headed to the bench AFTER the whistle has blown should absolutely be punished much more severely. You can't even pretend there isn't intent to injure with that BS.

 

[Red Cloud]

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The league simply isn't going to tolerate injuries to Hobey Baker candidates. That much is crystal clear. Marvin should have known better than to hit a star player that was shorter than him.

Henceforth, hitting a Hobey candidate or in any way hindering them from scoring will draw a minor penalty. If it's with his head down, it's a major. Sounds reasonable.

 

[The Vicar]

Re: SCSU Season Thread 2-Do We Hate Everybody as Much as They Hate Us?

The league simply isn't going to tolerate injuries to Hobey Baker candidates. That much is crystal clear. Marvin should have known better than to hit a star player that was shorter than him.

Henceforth, hitting a Hobey candidate or in any way hindering them from scoring will draw a minor penalty. If it's with his head down, it's a major. Sounds reasonable.

Like I said in another post, I can't wait for a BADger or a Flickertail from No. Dak. to get suspended for three games, you'll hear such things as, "that wasn't fair, that wasn't an illegal hit, even the announcers said it wasn't bad, why not even a penalty was called etc,etc..." Remember cheesedheads and flickertails, what goes around, comes around.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Like I said in another post, I can't wait for a BADger or a Flickertail from No. Dak. to get suspended for three games, you'll hear such things as, "that wasn't fair, that wasn't an illegal hit, even the announcers said it wasn't bad, why not even a penalty was called etc,etc..." Remember cheesedheads and flickertails, what goes around, comes around.

Well, first, one of our players would need to go after someone's head.

When Craig Smith got a couple of CFB penalties earlier in the season and sat as a result, I didn't see any Badger fans complaining and Eaves also called him out and said that those sort of plays cannot be tolerated. We might surprise you on this.

 

[scsutommyboy]

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Like I said in another post, I can't wait for a BADger or a Flickertail from No. Dak. to get suspended for three games, you'll hear such things as, "that wasn't fair, that wasn't an illegal hit, even the announcers said it wasn't bad, why not even a penalty was called etc,etc..." Remember cheesedheads and flickertails, what goes around, comes around.

That was one of my points as well. Marvin was not trying to hurt him and it was a fluke he got hit in the head. The three games comes from the Genoway hit(which was bad), so I would assume if other players hit someone like that they will only get one game. Giving a 5 minute major on that hit hurts the game. UND fans can't see that for some reason....

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Well, first, one of our players would need to go after someone's head.

When Craig Smith got a couple of CFB penalties earlier in the season and sat as a result, I didn't see any Badger fans complaining and Eaves also called him out and said that those sort of plays cannot be tolerated. We might surprise you on this.

If a Gopher did what Marvin did I wouldn't have a problem with the 3 games. I don't see what the whining is about.

 

[Red Cloud]

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Well, first, one of our players would need to go after someone's head.

Anyone who thinks Marvin was specifically headhunting there is seeing what they want to see.

Sorry your player got hurt but hockey's a rough sport. It is preferable to keep your head up when you see a large man barreling toward you.

Now, I guess the only question is, which Badger is going to be the one to emulate world hero Mario Lamoureux at the X?

 

[scsutommyboy]

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Well, first, one of our players would need to go after someone's head.

When Craig Smith got a couple of CFB penalties earlier in the season and sat as a result, I didn't see any Badger fans complaining and Eaves also called him out and said that those sort of plays cannot be tolerated. We might surprise you on this.

I am sorry they are different. Husky fans said the hit on Genoway was cheap and he deserved a game. This hit is completely different. There was nothing cheap about that hit. If the college game wants to say it is a 2 minute penalty fine, but from what I am reading they are calling it a 5 minute major and DQ which is a joke. All teams will now have to live by these new rules. It makes the game worse in my opinion. Of course the NCAA doesn't care what I think...

 

[RedFreak]

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Like I said in another post, I can't wait for a BADger or a Flickertail from No. Dak. to get suspended for three games, you'll hear such things as, "that wasn't fair, that wasn't an illegal hit, even the announcers said it wasn't bad, why not even a penalty was called etc,etc..." Remember cheesedheads and flickertails, what goes around, comes around.

Well, first, one of our players would need to go after someone's head.

When Craig Smith got a couple of CFB penalties earlier in the season and sat as a result, I didn't see any Badger fans complaining and Eaves also called him out and said that those sort of plays cannot be tolerated. We might surprise you on this.

Yeah, I was one of those calling for Eaves to sit Smith so that he figured it out before he hurt somebody. But let's not let the facts get in the way of a good temper tantrum.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Anyone who thinks Marvin was specifically headhunting there is seeing what they want to see.

Sorry your player got hurt but hockey's a rough sport. It is preferable to keep your head up when you see a large man barreling toward you.

Now, I guess the only question is, which Badger is going to be the one to emulate world hero Mario Lamoureux at the X?

Idiotic statements.

You can't see the "large man barreling towards you" when he comes in from behind or to the side like a snake.

And anyone who can't see Marvin intentionally avoiding Blake's shoulder and lifting his own shoulder into the face of Geoffrion is clearly seeing only what they want to see. Watch it again and explain why Marvin elevates into the face area. Just finishing his check?

No one sees this the way you guys are trying to paint it including our usually inept league. And somebody said that Marvin won't come back to college hockey and we're seeing his last games... GREAT!

Let him go to the AHL where someone will beat his a-s-s when he pulls this crap.

 

[SJHovey]

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Sorry your player got hurt but hockey's a rough sport. It is preferable to keep your head up when you see a large man barreling toward you.

I haven't seen the latest hit by Marvin, but a number of people have commented on a player's head being "down" as an excuse, justification or perhaps explanation of what occurred.

I guess my question is, if a players head is down, is it still alright for another player to hit it? Certainly not with a stick or elbow, but even a shoulder?

I think that's what the rule against contact to the head is intended to prevent. I don't think anyone here would condone someone throwing a shoulder into another players legs or knee just because they happened to be in striking range, would you?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Let him go to the AHL where someone will beat his a-s-s when he pulls this crap.

I look forward to seeing that video on YouTube.

 

[MaizeRage]

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When Craig Smith got a couple of CFB penalties earlier in the season and sat as a result, I didn't see any Badger fans complaining and Eaves also called him out and said that those sort of plays cannot be tolerated. We might surprise you on this.

Smith got less of a penalty for a much worse hit.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Smith got less of a penalty for a much worse hit.

That wasn't the point and we can't help that. No one would(or should) have complained had he gotten more as it was a DIRTY play.

I was ****ed at him not only for the timing of it, but for how bush it was. I can't stand that crap whether from one of my players or against one of mine.

The key is that we didn't try to explain it away. Nobody that I remember said, "he turned at the last second" or "you can't prove intent."

 

[ts8801]

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I haven't seen the latest hit by Marvin, but a number of people have commented on a player's head being "down" as an excuse, justification or perhaps explanation of what occurred.

I guess my question is, if a players head is down, is it still alright for another player to hit it? Certainly not with a stick or elbow, but even a shoulder?

I think that's what the rule against contact to the head is intended to prevent. I don't think anyone here would condone someone throwing a shoulder into another players legs or knee just because they happened to be in striking range, would you?

rules like this give players an incentive to play with their head down. Secondly have you every played hockey...? Hits like that happen quickly, your watching the video looking for a intentional hit to the face.

And that last paragraph is completely idiotic. How the hell do you connect a open ice hit, with a player being caught with his head down to someone throwing a shoulder into someone's knee/legs. Hits like this is the exact reason players are taught to keep your head up from youth. Marvin cant control other players heads, and he cant let up on a check, the player could pop his head up and avoid the check just as easily as keeping it down and getting hit in the face mask.

Everyone is laying 100% of the blame on Marvin for Geno still being out, has anyone wondered or looked into how many past concussion Geno had. I'm sure he has had a plenty. And just like any athlete I'm sure he came back before he should have, I know I played through concussion when I was in HS.

 

[Lady wore Black]

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Let him go to the AHL where someone will beat his a-s-s when he pulls this crap.

Nolan Yonkman vs. Aaron Marvin. Now that would be a fight I would love to see.

 

[SJHovey]

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And that last paragraph is completely idiotic. How the hell do you connect a open ice hit, with a player being caught with his head down to someone throwing a shoulder into someone's knee/legs.

I guess I'll ask the question again. If you "catch a player with his head down" are you free to check that persons head. Not hit him with a hip check. Not check him shoulder to shoulder, but check your shoulder into his head? If you say that's a legitimate check in college hockey, then I understand your position. I don't think that position necessarily squares with the rule.

 

[RedFreak]

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rules like this give players an incentive to play with their head down.

Against my better judgement, I can't but help highlight your argument.

You are saying that rules against contact to the head give players an incentive to put their head down so they can draw a penalty by getting wacked in the head. Do I have that right?