SCOTUS, Now with KBJ

[ticapnews]

Such as?

For starters, Biden could use the bully pulpit. Go to Wheeling and give a speech about Build Back Better, or voting rights or abortion rights or the Child Tax Credit and tell people the reason none of that is happening is Joe Manchin. If he really wants to emulate LBJ, he could pull Manchin aside before he takes the stage and say, "I'm going to go out there and talk about my wildly popular proposals...am I going to say you're the hero who will help me pass them or the goat who is the sole reason none of them are getting what they want?"

Has anyone in the Administration or the Senate leadership ever mentioned that a big reason Manchin is against the Green New Deal and Build Back Better is because he has a financial stake in a fucking coal company? Has anyone mentioned that he is against the minimum wage increase because he is an investor in a hotel chain that relies on maids getting minimum wage? No? Why is that?

But the fact is Joe Biden doesn't give a shit. In 2018 he gave a speech and endorsed an anti-choice, pro-forced birth Republican over a pro-choice Democrat in Michigan. Real champion of women.

 

[ticapnews]

You push Manchin, he just flips parties and you lose the Senate altogether. Sinema has clearly been bought off by someone, likely the Russians, and if she's removed from office she gets replaced by a Republican since Arizona still has a GOP Governor, and you lose the senate altogether.

In some ways, the Dems would've been better off if they hadn't taken the Senate, because McConnell would've been the unifying villain (though the country would've been far worse off overall because pandemic assistance wouldn't have happened). Instead, we get people like you blaming them for being handed a toothbrush and not having cleaned the entire mansion in 18 months.

Who do you think voters will blame? Not the ones who spend all day reading news and following politics, but the vast majority of Americans who don't have time to pay close attention but know the Democrats are in charge, promised things would get better and then things have gotten worse. Think they'll blame the folks who haven't been in office for the last few years?

 

[unofan]

Who do you think voters will blame? Not the ones who spend all day reading news and following politics, but the vast majority of Americans who don't have time to pay close attention but know the Democrats are in charge, promised things would get better and then things have gotten worse. Think they'll blame the folks who haven't been in office for the last few years?

I agree that's who people will blame. But I also ascribe to George Carlin's maxim: "picture the average American in your head, then remember half the population is dumber than that."

The mob is stupid. And democracy is the theory that the common man knows what he wants and deserves to get it good and hard.

 

[MissThundercat]

From Twitter:

Alito's draft opinion explicitly criticizes Lawrence v. Texas (legalizing sodomy) and Obergefell v. Hodges (legalizing same-sex marriage). He says that, like abortion, these decisions protect phony rights that are not "deeply rooted in history." https://t.co/4690k0KG1F https://t.co/urF7A02INU

There will be another Stonewall and I will be out there throwing bricks.

 

[psych]

For starters, Biden could use the bully pulpit. Go to Wheeling and give a speech about Build Back Better, or voting rights or abortion rights or the Child Tax Credit and tell people the reason none of that is happening is Joe Manchin. If he really wants to emulate LBJ, he could pull Manchin aside before he takes the stage and say, "I'm going to go out there and talk about my wildly popular proposals...am I going to say you're the hero who will help me pass them or the goat who is the sole reason none of them are getting what they want?"

Has anyone in the Administration or the Senate leadership ever mentioned that a big reason Manchin is against the Green New Deal and Build Back Better is because he has a financial stake in a fucking coal company? Has anyone mentioned that he is against the minimum wage increase because he is an investor in a hotel chain that relies on maids getting minimum wage? No? Why is that?

But the fact is Joe Biden doesn't give a ****. In 2018 he gave a speech and endorsed an anti-choice, pro-forced birth Republican over a pro-choice Democrat in Michigan. Real champion of women.

You think Joe Manchin is scared of Biden? He benefits from looking like he doesn’t get along with the man in a +2,748 R state. Harris and Sanders went after him. He told them to fuck off, and there is no BBB. Who won that battle?
Sinema can die in a fucking fire.

 

[psych]

KBJ is the only justice she has voted to confirm since I voted for her.

You’re just like Hovey in that I’ve never seen either of you admit to being wrong on something. Hovey will always have 20,000; you have Susan Collins. Can’t wait to see her run away from reporters when they ask her about Kavanaugh and Roe v Wade being “settled law.”

 

[mookie1995]

For starters, Biden could use the bully pulpit. Go to Wheeling ,,,,,.

Fuck, that’s worse than Kennedy going to Dallas

well, that isn’t entirely true as the thing keeping joeb alive is the fear of president harris

 

[Drew S.]

You’re just like Hovey in that I’ve never seen either of you admit to being wrong on something. Hovey will always have 20,000; you have Susan Collins. Can’t wait to see her run away from reporters when they ask her about Kavanaugh and Roe v Wade being “settled law.”

As I tell my wife all the time if at some point I’m wrong I’ll be the first to admit it ; )

After all the vitriol that came my way last night I read a couple post mortems on the 2020 ME senate election and it made me feel good about my choice. I’m sorry if people don’t understand but Gideon and the campaign she ran was truly that bad. Collins has been a good senator for Maine too.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

We were all hysterical. Right? This would never happen.

Goodbye privacy rights. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Glad I live in Minnesota since I still have to live in this shithole of a nation.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

As I tell my wife all the time if at some point I’m wrong I’ll be the first to admit it ; )

After all the vitriol that came my way last night I read a couple post mortems on the 2020 ME senate election and it made me feel good about my choice. I’m sorry if people don’t understand but Gideon and the campaign she ran was truly that bad. Collins has been a good senator for Maine too.

Sure she has. She's set back women's rights in Maine 50 years. That's awesome.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I hope you poke your head out of her crusty, polyp, wart and hemorrhoid filled ass one day to see your guns being taken away. The only thing that makes you a man.

 

[ticapnews]

You think Joe Manchin is scared of Biden? He benefits from looking like he doesn’t get along with the man in a +2,748 R state. Harris and Sanders went after him. He told them to fuck off, and there is no BBB. Who won that battle?
Sinema can die in a fucking fire.

I was told that we had to support Biden because he could get bipartisan support for his agenda. He can't even get the support of his own party, much less any GOP support. But hey, better to complain about the situation than actually try to do something about it. That's working wonders so far.

So far I've received 5 emails asking for donations to protect Roe. The fundraisers have been busy.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I was told that we had to support Biden because he could get bipartisan support for his agenda. He can't even get the support of his own party, much less any GOP support. But hey, better to complain about the situation than actually try to do something about it. That's working wonders so far.

So far I've received 5 emails asking for donations to protect Roe. The fundraisers have been busy.

Yeah, I find that hilarious as well. So much bipartisan support up there right now.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

They had to gut voting rights first.

then they can gut the rest and people…can’t do anything about it

 

[ScoobyDoo]

They had to gut voting rights first.

then they can gut the rest and people…can’t do anything about it

They know how to win.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Likely, but could also be a law clerk for any of the liberal justices who doesn't give a **** about burning bridges.

Oh yeah. Definitely. I could easily see a clerk who felt terrified and enraged by it. I think it's relatively unlikely, but it's also non-zero.

 

[dxmnkd316]

For starters, Biden could use the bully pulpit. Go to Wheeling and give a speech about Build Back Better, or voting rights or abortion rights or the Child Tax Credit and tell people the reason none of that is happening is Joe Manchin. If he really wants to emulate LBJ, he could pull Manchin aside before he takes the stage and say, "I'm going to go out there and talk about my wildly popular proposals...am I going to say you're the hero who will help me pass them or the goat who is the sole reason none of them are getting what they want?"

Has anyone in the Administration or the Senate leadership ever mentioned that a big reason Manchin is against the Green New Deal and Build Back Better is because he has a financial stake in a fucking coal company? Has anyone mentioned that he is against the minimum wage increase because he is an investor in a hotel chain that relies on maids getting minimum wage? No? Why is that?

But the fact is Joe Biden doesn't give a ****. In 2018 he gave a speech and endorsed an anti-choice, pro-forced birth Republican over a pro-choice Democrat in Michigan. Real champion of women.

Joe manchin's approval has gone up more than any other Senator if that earlier polling is to be believed. Biden ain't touching him.

 

[Swansong]

Remember when we pretended to be a modern country?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

The Democrats need to turn this on its head. If life begins at 6 weeks then everything else begins at 6 weeks. Child support, life insurance collection on any miscarry after 6 weeks, can't deport an illegal because she is carrying a US citizen, etc. etc. etc.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

The Democrats need to turn this on its head. If life begins at 6 weeks then everything else begins at 6 weeks. Child support, life insurance collection on any miscarry after 6 weeks, can't deport an illegal because she is carrying a US citizen, etc. etc. etc.

Collection on a miscarriage? You mean collection by county sheriff to arrest us