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SCOTUS, Now with KBJ

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dxmnkd316 said:
This is the dumbest **** you've ever said.

But thanks for misrepresenting my views and insulting my intelligence
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You're welcome.

I don't know why you flew off the handle, though. What I said was to get what you want you need to push for someone far enough Left that you don't want them. We all do. That shouldn't be controversial.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
It’s not the dumbest thing he’s said. Two weeks ago he mansplained to me how I needed to treat people like drew (with your vehement agreement) and then three days later drew was duuurrrring all over his keyboard about womens rights. (Kep did apologize for that when I pointed it out though)

point being, you may at times sound different than you think, but it’s not on purpose and You’ve come a long way. I don’t consider you a lefty yet but you’re making your way :)
Edit- I wouldn’t label you an outright centrist either
also remember kep said that Thomas Perez would be good!
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Perez sucked. TBF I said Dr. Mrs. thought he would be good because she knew him. In the event, she was wrong, and I am surprised but it is always a gift when one's spouse is wrong.
 
Handyman said:
Just nod and smile, like you did in college when some polisci major started talking about how Communism could work if handled correctly...
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I knew a guy at Tech who started a presentation, "Communism works...(pregnant pause)", just to troll the ROTC cons in his class. They reacted the exact way you'd expect. He then continued, "...in theory. However, in practice..."
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
That's a laugh. A Democrat call to arms equals a strongly worded speech in the well of the senate and or whining on Meet The Press when the republicans end the filibuster to pass a nationwide ban on abortion.
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I worry for gay rights too but I’m a tad more worried about half the population losing control over their body at the Moment
 
There will come a point when we will look back on where we are right now-- at this moment, RIGHT NOW-- and realize that this is the moment when democracy could have been saved and the American experiment could have been salvaged.

And that instead, those in charge decided that messaging on jobs numbers and internet broadband and a war halfway around the world was more important than LITERALLY ANY PERSON IN THE BASE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY having rights.

You have already failed us.

It's so damn sad.
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https://twitter.com/ECMcLaughlin/status/1524381253645914112

Thank you Democratic Party.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
https://twitter.com/ECMcLaughlin/sta...81253645914112

Thank you Democratic Party.
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Yawn...this is completely wrong and for someone who is supposed to be smart she makes herself sound like a second rate Twitter activist. She is basically saying "Hey if we just ignore Ukraine and start talking tough then in the end everything will be fine!" which is cute and like something out of a Capra film. What the fuck does she live in a cave? Biden could stand up at every PC and say "those guys over there are fucking traitors and they hate everyone and if you vote for them you are voting for the destruction of this country and thousands of needless deaths and overt poverty" and the entirety of Dem leadership could stand with him and completely shut down the Government in protest to try and "save the American Experiment" and it would not change the fundamental things that prevent such a change from happening.

1) The Dems don't have the votes. They can't even break the filibuster because people like Joe Manchin are duly elected

which leads to...

2) The people are the real fucking problem. If people actually cared about "saving the American Experiment" they wouldn't vote for people who openly admit they hate Democracy and want to end it. If they cared about Women's Rights or LGBTQ+ Rights or even making sure cops can't murder Black People in Broad Daylight on video they would vote for the party that pretty much runs exclusively on that platform and not a party that is openly hostile to all versions of Equality. If they wanted a Government to be functional, they wouldn't gum up the works every chance they get by either splitting the Government or electing leaders and people who have no intention of governing.

The truth (the type people like her never seem to get) is that most of this country is filled with selfish pricks. (no Kepler, it is not 30%...30% just revel in it and admit it out loud) When things are going well we will make sure to support everything that is great and push for reforms that could make a difference. (BLM and Pride Flags for everyone!!!) But when we are down to our last chip, when the market is sagging and (mostly White) People aren't feeling up to it they will abandon every principle they have to get what is there's. (not all of us mind you, but well more than enough to screw up everything) She pretends that messaging on the jobs numbers is inconsequential...that tells me she doesn't understand the average voter because that lame ass messaging is sadly what wins elections.

And see, if anyone said any of that to her she would deflect, she would say "its voter purges and restrictions!!" or "The media is the problem!1!1" but no, the problem is that voters care more about the Ukraine War than the real fights at home. Voters care more about jobs reports and a Dow Jones Industrial Average they can't even explain than they do about Equality. Voters care more about an extra $20 on their paycheck because of a Tax Break For Billionaires than the fact that at the end of the year they will owe way more than they got back and oh btw their Social Security was gutted, Medicare ripped off and there is no money to fix the roads or help when natural disasters caused by Climate Change ravage half the country. You wanna know why...BECAUSE VOTERS ARE FUCKING MORONS!! Because the elected officials we have perfectly represent us just as they were supposed to. (they suck because we as a whole pretty much suck) Even us, as Dem activists, are basically just a whiny owner blaming the refs for why his team lost and ignoring that it was our bad decisions that put the team in that position in the first place. Sometimes we are so up our own azz we might as well be Republicans because we are helping them way more than we are helping us.

You want to know the real American Exceptionalism...it is that we are so arrogant and full of ourselves even now, post Trump, we still can't see how we are the problem. The rest of the world has figured it out (travel abroad and tell me they don't look at us just a little bit different) but yet we are just blind to it. The reason is simple, they have all had their dalliances with this type of disassociated populace and flirtations with Authoritarianism so they see all the telltale signs. We don't, because we are so full of ourselves that we never thought it could happen here. (even though it has been staring us in the face since 9/11) Roe v. Wade is the perfect example...the second Trump got Kavanaugh and ACB on the Court it was over. Many of us were shouted down because we said so...and now half the electorate is acting shocked and appalled over it. I bet Ms. Activist is organizing a Women's March...man that will show them!!

tl;dr: If she wants to fix America so badly, fix Americans. We are the monkey wrench in the machine.

(sorry Scoob...I am just done with vague platitudes and pretending the problem is some rando talking points)
 
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And you totally miss her point.

She's saying the administration isn't even talking about the effect this decision will have.

Just like they dont talk about their job numbers, or wage growth, or the $350/month families were getting for each child to help them make better lives for their families, and how the Repubs took that away. Don't talk about any of the policies they've enacted that are helping people.

Basically, what youre always whining about, how the Dems suck at messaging and fighting back. And now you have a Dem who wants them to do that, and you whine about that too.

Tell us your great plan for fixing Americans.

Jesus Fucking Christ.
 
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Tell me, why should people vote for Democrats if those Democrats won't fight for the policies they supposedly believe in?

Just throw up their hands and say, "well, we tried, but its just not gonna happen. Manchin, or Mitch, (or whatever excuse they pick) just won't allow it to happen. Nothing we can do. You gotta vote for more of us".

You know what that says? That says "we're weak," and its too hard, and requires too much work, so we're not even gonna try.

And they want you to vote for more people like that? And you think Americans are the problem cause they won't?

Jesus.

They'll hold their little "abortion rights" vote theater show, have it go down in flames, shrug, say, "see, we tried. We fought for yoooouuuuu!!!!" and then not do another single damm thing to try to change things.

And still whine cause you wont vote for them hard enough.
 
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