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SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

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Handyman said:
A problem...yes. That doesnt mean you can arbitrarily tell them they now CANT vote. (which is what purging the rolls does)

Not voting is a choice...not being able to vote pretty much goes against everything we stand for in this country.

But please just keep "asking the question" maybe one day you will lose your right to vote and then you will actually care.

But hey let me "just ask a question" does it not seem odd that the only place this seems to be a problem is in districts where GOPers want less Dem voters? Must be a coincidence. The fact it often happens in minority neighborhoods is just another coincidence I am sure. Who needs Civil Rights anyways?
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Don't vote, never vote. Works for me. Maybe we need new law although the current Court pretty much enacted it today. Go Supreme's.
 
joecct said:
They could have moved or died. Declining to vote is a failure of civic duty. Isn't declining to vote for *6 years* a problem?
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Not one that demands you be removed from a list of eligible voters.

Again, every "solution" to the all but non existent voter fraud problem hurts more eligible voters than prevention of any fraud.
 
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So I'll ask again, if people keep taking it the shorts for sitting out the 2016 election, I'm supposed to be upset.....why, again? I mean, its not like you couldn't have seen this coming from outer space or anything.
 
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Rover said:
So I'll ask again, if people keep taking it the shorts for sitting out the 2016 election, I'm supposed to be upset.....why, again? I mean, its not like you couldn't have seen this coming from outer space or anything.
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Hey, if you Democrats weren't for killing babies, giving Homo's rights, and taking away our guns we'd probably vote for you. But since, you are we'll vote for Turtle Boy and anyone like him.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Hey, if you Democrats weren't for killing babies, giving Homo's rights, and taking away our guns we'd probably vote for you. But since, you are we'll vote for Turtle Boy and anyone like him.
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Works for me. If people feel that there was no difference between the parties over the last 3 elections I feel no responsibility to do anything for them. 50 years ago blacks were beaten and blasted with fire hoses while trying to win the right to register and vote freely. That's the ultimate "jumping through hoops" to exercise your constitutional right. The GOP has been open, transparent, and surprisingly honest about exactly what they're up to here. The funny thing is the people on the losing end have basically sat on the sidelines and watched it all unfold before their eyes, yet still don't feel the need to do anything about it.
 
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Rover said:
Works for me. If people feel that there was no difference between the parties over the last 3 elections I feel no responsibility to do anything for them. 50 years ago blacks were beaten and blasted with fire hoses while trying to win the right to register and vote freely. That's the ultimate "jumping through hoops" to exercise your constitutional right. The GOP has been open, transparent, and surprisingly honest about exactly what they're up to here. The funny thing is the people on the losing end have basically sat on the sidelines and watched it all unfold before their eyes, yet still don't feel the need to do anything about it.
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Dinesh D'Souza vehemently disagrees with you. As he lays out in his new book

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076ZP16X7/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

the left is at fault for all of it.
 
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Rover said:
So I'll ask again, if people keep taking it the shorts for sitting out the 2016 election, I'm supposed to be upset.....why, again? I mean, its not like you couldn't have seen this coming from outer space or anything.
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If Taco Bell can't sell their Sh-t Chalupa they take it off the menu. They don't whine for years afterwards how their customers failed them.
 
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You dont allow for people to lose their rights to prove a point.
 
Rover said:
So I'll ask again, if people keep taking it the shorts for sitting out the 2016 election, I'm supposed to be upset.....why, again? I mean, its not like you couldn't have seen this coming from outer space or anything.
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Because these things make it harder for our side to win otherwise the republicans wouldn’t be doing it.

If there was ever evidence that some people care far more about their team losing than the actual bad things the republicans are doing this is it.
 
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Handyman said:
You dont allow for people to lose their rights to prove a point.
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Okay, I've had my conservative leanings in the past, but feel like I've redeemed myself more lately (last 10 years or so).

Still, I just can't get excited about all this "taking away of rights." With rights come responsibilities, right? Why shouldn't voters have the responsibility to keep the rolls updated every 5-10 years? It hardly seems that burdensome to me. If someone does inadvertently get dropped, it's not like they're convicted felons who will not be allowed to re-register. I assume all the normal voter registration channels are open to them - nobody is having their "rights" taken away.
 
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LynahFan said:
Okay, I've had my conservative leanings in the past, but feel like I've redeemed myself more lately (last 10 years or so).

Still, I just can't get excited about all this "taking away of rights." With rights come responsibilities, right? Why shouldn't voters have the responsibility to keep the rolls updated every 5-10 years? It hardly seems that burdensome to me. If someone does inadvertently get dropped, it's not like they're convicted felons who will not be allowed to re-register. I assume all the normal voter registration channels are open to them - nobody is having their "rights" taken away.
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The problem is people won't learn they aren't on the roles til they show up on election day and can't vote. If you're in a state with same day registration, no problem. But most states don't have that.

And it's not like we take your right to free speech away if you don't petition the government for X # of years.
 
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LynahFan said:
Okay, I've had my conservative leanings in the past, but feel like I've redeemed myself more lately (last 10 years or so).

Still, I just can't get excited about all this "taking away of rights." With rights come responsibilities, right? Why shouldn't voters have the responsibility to keep the rolls updated every 5-10 years? It hardly seems that burdensome to me. If someone does inadvertently get dropped, it's not like they're convicted felons who will not be allowed to re-register. I assume all the normal voter registration channels are open to them - nobody is having their "rights" taken away.
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I'd like to see the benefit-detriment analysis, along with some reliable data.
 
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LynahFan said:
Okay, I've had my conservative leanings in the past, but feel like I've redeemed myself more lately (last 10 years or so).

Still, I just can't get excited about all this "taking away of rights." With rights come responsibilities, right? Why shouldn't voters have the responsibility to keep the rolls updated every 5-10 years? It hardly seems that burdensome to me. If someone does inadvertently get dropped, it's not like they're convicted felons who will not be allowed to re-register. I assume all the normal voter registration channels are open to them - nobody is having their "rights" taken away.
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So if I dont use my right to assemble they can take that from me too?
 
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alfablue said:
A problem for the parties that the choices suck, perhaps.

Declining to vote is a choice just as much as voting is, as can be seen in the last election. Now you don't have the choice, apparently.
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if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice :)
 
Handyman said:
So if I dont use my right to assemble they can take that from me too?
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Just stop. No one’s right to vote has been taken away. That’s like saying that an 18 year old, or someone who moves, or someone who changes their name has had their right taken from them. It’s still there.

It’s illogical to think states have to keep you on the registration rolls in perpetuity, so all we are really debating is how long should they wait.
 
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SJHovey said:
Just stop. No one’s right to vote has been taken away. That’s like saying that an 18 year old, or someone who moves, or someone who changes their name has had their right taken from them. It’s still there.

It’s illogical to think states have to keep you on the registration rolls in perpetuity, so all we are really debating is how long should they wait.
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How is it logical to take someone's registration away?

Why is it a requirement to vote just to be able to vote in the next election without re-registering?

How do you know that the lack of voting wasn't a problem with the polling stations? How can you be 100% sure that the problem is due to the voter and not something else?

WHY IS THE CORE ASSUMPTION THAT THE VOTER IS IN THE WRONG? Voting IS our right.

And since we can put some pretty drastic rules onto the 15th Amendment like that, why can't we do the same to the 2nd?????
 
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