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Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door!
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CardsFan91
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Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
What do you guys want from me? Seriously? How about you meet me in real life Rennell? Instead of talking garbage over the web. Gesh.
What do you guys want from me? Seriously? How about you meet me in real life Rennell? Instead of talking garbage over the web. Gesh.
CardsFan91
New member
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
I'm going to bed. Come to Plattsburgh Rennell and I'll buy you a soda and you can tell me about how much of a whiner I am.
I'm going to bed. Come to Plattsburgh Rennell and I'll buy you a soda and you can tell me about how much of a whiner I am.
hockeyfan77
Registered User
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
Are you serious??? This is almost as bad as the "Spartan Arena"...
Are you serious??? This is almost as bad as the "Spartan Arena"...
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CARDS_rule_the_Burgh
Nate LePage, Siena '13
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
Alright, I'll respond to this now that I've had a chance to sleep on it. First of all, what does Plattsburgh only scoring on the PP have to do with the refs possibly handing over the game to Oz? I can see how it could be if each one of those calls had not been a legitimate and dumb penalty. Despite the win, I'm sure a few of those boys in green and gold will be getting quite an earful at their next practice, if they haven't already. The Cards played an effective powerplay, and took advantage of the opportunities the Lakers were giving them. Are you going to tell me that if the final had been 3-2 you would have complained that the refs played too much of a role in the result? No, of course you wouldn't, because the Cardinals would have beaten you in a legitimate part of the game.
However, having had time to sleep on it, I would like to take this opportunity to amend my previous comment. The refs did not "absolutely hand the game" to Oswego, but a couple blown calls did significantly contribute to the result. I'm talking about 2 specific calls here.
First, there was Whitelaw's goal in the 3rd. How in the world can a referee call that a goal when he was not in a good position to see it, the goal light never came on, AND the goal judge was sitting there shaking his head and saying "no" the whole time? This "goal" gave the Lakers some momentum going forward. Who knows if Craig would have taken the penalty or Moodie would have scored at that point if this goal hadn't influenced the momentum of the game. If those things still did happen, fine. It's a tie game at that point, not a laker lead.
Second, Docking's 5 for CTH. Even the oswego fans here have been saying that should have been a 2. I'm not going to argue it wasn't a penalty, it was. But to guarantee that a team that is trailing in part because they blew a call on the goal will play the remaineder of the game with only 5 on the ice, instead of 6, is atrocious. I don't even care if the too-many-men was a makeup call. You can't tell me that the fact that Platty had a guy in the box for the remainder of the game no matter what was a significant confidence boot to the Lakers, especially the defense and Beckwith.
All that said, the Cardinals had plenty of opportunity to tie it up, right the wrongs that had been done to them. And they certainly tried 100% all game long. But in the end, they fell just short. It wouldn't be fair to the Lakers topeg this ALL on the refs. They executed their game plan and kept the puck out of the net 5x5. (Well, not really. Emery's in the Press Republican saying that the tape shows the Clarke no-goal as being a legitimate goal... but I won't get into that) It's sad that, the way these polls work, Plattsburgh will drop like a rock this week and Oswego might gain some ground by beating the then-#7, when these two teams were so obviously not that far apart. I look forward to a rematch or 2 in March.
Alright, I'll respond to this now that I've had a chance to sleep on it. First of all, what does Plattsburgh only scoring on the PP have to do with the refs possibly handing over the game to Oz? I can see how it could be if each one of those calls had not been a legitimate and dumb penalty. Despite the win, I'm sure a few of those boys in green and gold will be getting quite an earful at their next practice, if they haven't already. The Cards played an effective powerplay, and took advantage of the opportunities the Lakers were giving them. Are you going to tell me that if the final had been 3-2 you would have complained that the refs played too much of a role in the result? No, of course you wouldn't, because the Cardinals would have beaten you in a legitimate part of the game.
However, having had time to sleep on it, I would like to take this opportunity to amend my previous comment. The refs did not "absolutely hand the game" to Oswego, but a couple blown calls did significantly contribute to the result. I'm talking about 2 specific calls here.
First, there was Whitelaw's goal in the 3rd. How in the world can a referee call that a goal when he was not in a good position to see it, the goal light never came on, AND the goal judge was sitting there shaking his head and saying "no" the whole time? This "goal" gave the Lakers some momentum going forward. Who knows if Craig would have taken the penalty or Moodie would have scored at that point if this goal hadn't influenced the momentum of the game. If those things still did happen, fine. It's a tie game at that point, not a laker lead.
Second, Docking's 5 for CTH. Even the oswego fans here have been saying that should have been a 2. I'm not going to argue it wasn't a penalty, it was. But to guarantee that a team that is trailing in part because they blew a call on the goal will play the remaineder of the game with only 5 on the ice, instead of 6, is atrocious. I don't even care if the too-many-men was a makeup call. You can't tell me that the fact that Platty had a guy in the box for the remainder of the game no matter what was a significant confidence boot to the Lakers, especially the defense and Beckwith.
All that said, the Cardinals had plenty of opportunity to tie it up, right the wrongs that had been done to them. And they certainly tried 100% all game long. But in the end, they fell just short. It wouldn't be fair to the Lakers topeg this ALL on the refs. They executed their game plan and kept the puck out of the net 5x5. (Well, not really. Emery's in the Press Republican saying that the tape shows the Clarke no-goal as being a legitimate goal... but I won't get into that) It's sad that, the way these polls work, Plattsburgh will drop like a rock this week and Oswego might gain some ground by beating the then-#7, when these two teams were so obviously not that far apart. I look forward to a rematch or 2 in March.
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
+1
(The same criticism can be applied to Oswego fans, too) Look back at some of their posts when they hit a rough patch earlier this year...not even losing, for the most part...just coming too close.
+1
(The same criticism can be applied to Oswego fans, too) Look back at some of their posts when they hit a rough patch earlier this year...not even losing, for the most part...just coming too close.
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
Legitimate goal in whose eyes, Emery's? I've been to Stafford many times and seen the Lakers screwed. Losing a playoff game on a blown offside call still stands out. I think you need to suck it up.
Legitimate goal in whose eyes, Emery's? I've been to Stafford many times and seen the Lakers screwed. Losing a playoff game on a blown offside call still stands out. I think you need to suck it up.
hockeyguy99
BOOM-SHAK-A-LAK
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
I can't agree with you more. It really irks me when a team fights so hard for a victory only to have the refs pull a Woodward on them.
I can't agree with you more. It really irks me when a team fights so hard for a victory only to have the refs pull a Woodward on them.
ClarksonKnights#1
Registered User
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
The Oswego 3rd goal was a legitimate goal. I still have video of the goal. The Plattsburgh goalie was pushed into the net with the puck by his own man. The net did not go off before the puck was clearly over the line.
I would like the video of the Clarke goal as the video I have from the same angle of the Oswego goal does not have that puck going in. It clearly went along (not across) the goal line before hitting the post and bouncing out. Emery sounds like a coach trying to defend his job?
The Oswego 3rd goal was a legitimate goal. I still have video of the goal. The Plattsburgh goalie was pushed into the net with the puck by his own man. The net did not go off before the puck was clearly over the line.
I would like the video of the Clarke goal as the video I have from the same angle of the Oswego goal does not have that puck going in. It clearly went along (not across) the goal line before hitting the post and bouncing out. Emery sounds like a coach trying to defend his job?
CARDS_rule_the_Burgh
Nate LePage, Siena '13
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
Way to pick one statement and pick it apart, guys. I think you missed the conclusion of my post. You know, the one where I gave props to both teams for a fantastic effort? Yeah, that one. That's the point I want to get across. But no, you insist on picking apart the negatives of my post. Wow.
Way to pick one statement and pick it apart, guys. I think you missed the conclusion of my post. You know, the one where I gave props to both teams for a fantastic effort? Yeah, that one. That's the point I want to get across. But no, you insist on picking apart the negatives of my post. Wow.
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
And the other similar posts…
+ 1
The game had its ups and downs, its good calls and bad, but overall, they were balanced, two great teams, fighting a great battle - kudos to them - jeers to the whiners.
And the other similar posts…
+ 1
The game had its ups and downs, its good calls and bad, but overall, they were balanced, two great teams, fighting a great battle - kudos to them - jeers to the whiners.
OSUPBPMike
VOTL '09-13
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
Just wanted to second this. From the pressbox side, the puck clearly crossed the goal line, before the net came off, and no Laker pushed the Cardinal into Leis. The ref was on the wrong side of the net to be able to see it all happen.
Just wanted to second this. From the pressbox side, the puck clearly crossed the goal line, before the net came off, and no Laker pushed the Cardinal into Leis. The ref was on the wrong side of the net to be able to see it all happen.
LoudHorns31
Rail #59
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
the only problem that I have with this goal (and I do agree that it was a goal) is that the ref was way out of postion. there was no signal of a goal untill after the ref blew the play dead and skated to the back of the net. all in all Murphy was his typical horrible self, if only Bakdraft had been there to give me a hand....
the only problem that I have with this goal (and I do agree that it was a goal) is that the ref was way out of postion. there was no signal of a goal untill after the ref blew the play dead and skated to the back of the net. all in all Murphy was his typical horrible self, if only Bakdraft had been there to give me a hand....
OSUPBPMike
VOTL '09-13
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
But I think the most important thing was that they got the call right. I don't know why the goal judge did not see it, I guess Leis or the Platty player in the net shielded him as well. It was definitely not a situation where there should have been a whistle and the puck trickled in after.
But I think the most important thing was that they got the call right. I don't know why the goal judge did not see it, I guess Leis or the Platty player in the net shielded him as well. It was definitely not a situation where there should have been a whistle and the puck trickled in after.
LoudHorns31
Rail #59
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
Like I said, I'm not disagreeing that it was a goal, just another instance of horrible officials doing a horrible job. and I do beleive that the goal judge couldn't see the puck because of the players in the net.
Like I said, I'm not disagreeing that it was a goal, just another instance of horrible officials doing a horrible job. and I do beleive that the goal judge couldn't see the puck because of the players in the net.
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
It is actually very common for a ref to not signal a goal on a play like that until they actually see the puck in the net. It is possible that the ref saw the puck in front of Leis, get knocked towards him and into the net but he couldn't see it under him. Or he is just a bum, take your pick.
I felt sorry for the one Plattsburgh penalty killer on the game winning goal, he blocked a shot off the ankle and was never able to get back into the play allowing Mallaro three shots before Moodie finally tipped it in. He paid the price for doing something the Laker guys weren't doing for much of the game, laying his body on the line for the team. It was tough to watch him struggle around not being able to do anything to help the team. It reminded me of Jared Anderson earlier in the year when he put his shoulder out on the PK the team gave up a goal as he struggled to get back into the play.
Plattsburgh seems to play well against top competition but they are pretty awful against some of the lesser teams. Fortunately for them come playoff time they will be playing top teams so they should be fine. If they don't win out there is a real good chance we will be seeing them at the Campus Center for the semi's a scenario that hasn't played out well for the Lakers in the past.
It is actually very common for a ref to not signal a goal on a play like that until they actually see the puck in the net. It is possible that the ref saw the puck in front of Leis, get knocked towards him and into the net but he couldn't see it under him. Or he is just a bum, take your pick.
I felt sorry for the one Plattsburgh penalty killer on the game winning goal, he blocked a shot off the ankle and was never able to get back into the play allowing Mallaro three shots before Moodie finally tipped it in. He paid the price for doing something the Laker guys weren't doing for much of the game, laying his body on the line for the team. It was tough to watch him struggle around not being able to do anything to help the team. It reminded me of Jared Anderson earlier in the year when he put his shoulder out on the PK the team gave up a goal as he struggled to get back into the play.
Plattsburgh seems to play well against top competition but they are pretty awful against some of the lesser teams. Fortunately for them come playoff time they will be playing top teams so they should be fine. If they don't win out there is a real good chance we will be seeing them at the Campus Center for the semi's a scenario that hasn't played out well for the Lakers in the past.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
I'm pretty sure Matt doesn't need to come to Plattsburgh to "fight" a teenager.
I'm pretty sure Matt doesn't need to come to Plattsburgh to "fight" a teenager.
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CardsFan91
New member
I don't want to fight him? I'm a Journalism Major who's an avid fan of Division-III college hockey. That's something we have in common that we could chat about. I just don't know why of all people he attacked me?
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
That any time they lose they are fatally flawed?
That you're paying less than $10 per win, but somehow feel you're being completely ripped off?
Because your team is 13-6-1 and you're whining that $120 entitles you to much more?
That any time they lose they are fatally flawed?
That you're paying less than $10 per win, but somehow feel you're being completely ripped off?
bakdraft21
Well-known member
Re: Saturday 1/29/11 - a new Leis on my BMW? Oh Claire, there's a Knight at the door
well LH as soon as I saw the Murphy on the ice I knew we were in trouble either way...personnaly I think they should go to the 2 ref 2 line system...several bad calls, the 5 at the end of the game was questionable from what I saw on the web, a 2 if anything, the Oz player played it up, but what can ya do but even it up a little at the end, I wish it hadn't happened and the end of the game would have been AWESOME.......hopefully we will meet again in OZ down the road in the SUNYAC ...I THINK... LOL......good luck the rest of the yr
well LH as soon as I saw the Murphy on the ice I knew we were in trouble either way...personnaly I think they should go to the 2 ref 2 line system...several bad calls, the 5 at the end of the game was questionable from what I saw on the web, a 2 if anything, the Oz player played it up, but what can ya do but even it up a little at the end, I wish it hadn't happened and the end of the game would have been AWESOME.......hopefully we will meet again in OZ down the road in the SUNYAC ...I THINK... LOL......good luck the rest of the yr