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RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

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Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

Ralph Baer said:
I don't like the 2.75, but he has size. :)

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 # Name                 Ps commitm. Team (League)                    Year  DOB      Ht    Wt  Hometown          NZ *s
16 Alexander Babich     LW 02/16/19 Chicago Mission 16U (HPHL 16U)   2022  03/13/03 5'11" 170 Chicago, IL       3.25 x
 8 John Beaton *        LW 11/26/18 Youngstown Phantoms (USHL)       2020  10/31/00 6'01" 183 Stittsville, ON   3.50 x
43 Jack Brackett #*     LW 03/08/18 Powell River Kings (BCHL)        2020  12/31/00 5'10" 175 Manassas, VA      3.50 x
16 Finn Brown           RW 10/07/19 St Michael's Buzzers (OJHL)      2021  06/06/02 6'04" 188 Toronto, ON       3.75 St Sk To GS
 6 Dylan Davies #*      LD 10/10/18 Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)      2020  02/09/01 6'02" 188 Traverse City, MI 3.75 St Aw Vi
10 Eric Fawkes           C 10/17/18 Winkler Flyers (MJHL)            2020  03/13/01 6'03" 185 Winnipeg, MB      3.50 x
27 Jake Gagnon          RW 12/19/19 Wellington Dukes (OJHL)          2020  11/04/99 5'10" 170 Pointe Claire, QU 3.75 Sp SH Vi Sk
18 Max Itagaki          RW 09/23/18 Janesville Jets (NAHL)           2021  06/18/02 5'07" 160 Glenview, IL      3.50 Sp SH Aw Sk
15 Reid Leibold          C 09/08/17 Maryland Black Bears (NAHL)      2020  10/23/01 5'10" 175 Ashburn VA        3.75 Sp SH
 5 Hunter McDonald      LD 11/27/18 Corpus Christ IceRays (NAHL)     2021  05/11/02 6'02" 180 Fairport, NY      3.50 x
22 James McIsaac #    RW/C 10/23/18 Brooks Bandits (AJHL)            2020  04/29/99 5'11" 170 Winnipeg, MB      3.50 Sp To
31 Brett Miller #*       G 11/05/18 Austin Bruins (NAHL)             2020  04/26/99 6'01" 166 Northville, MI    3.25 x
20 Altti Nykänen         F 03/10/20 Bishop's College School          2020  09/26/01 6'03" 183 Nummela, Finland  2.75
49 Payton Robinson      RD 10/21/19 Burlington Cougars (OJHL)        2022  04/30/03 6'02" 185 Mississauga, ON   3.50 x
20 Henri Schreifels     LW 01/19/20 Victoria Grizzlies               2021  07/02/00 6'01" 195 Agoura Hills, CA  3.25 x
28 Lauri Sertti         LD xx/xx/19 Amarillo Bulls (NAHL)            2020  07/11/99 6'01" 192 Espoo, Finland    3.75 SH Aw Vi Sk
30 Jack Watson           G 12/24/19 Coquitlam Express (BCHL)         2021  03/14/00 6'03" 195 Toronto, ON       3.25 x

Women
36 Sara Bayne #*         F 09/18/19 HoneyBaked 19U (HPHL)            2020  04/23/02 5'06" 135 Ypsilanti, MI     3.00
16 Meagan Byrum *        C 10/28/19 Washington Pride 19U (JWHL)      2020  08/25/02 5'07" 135 Potomac, MD       3.25
 3 Sophie Helgeson       D 04/30/19 Roseau High School               2021  03/10/03 5'06" 125 Roseau MN         4.00
 4                                  Minnesota Northern Starzz
 8 Mika Jahnke           F 03/09/20 Dallas Stars Elite 19U           2021  07/16/03 5'02" 130 xxxx, TX          3.75
 X Riena Jahnke          F 03/09/20 Seibu Princess Rabbits (Japan)   2020  08/05/01 5'03" 118 xxxx, TX          3.75
19 Aliya Jomha *         F 02/07/19 Edge School (CSSHL)              2020  09/27/02 5'06" 155 Edmonton, AB      3.25
 6 Sophia Jones          D 05/02/19 Connecticut Polar Bears 16U      2022  09/23/03 5'03" 135 Westfield, MA     3.50
 6                                  Williston Northampton School
10 Ellie Kaiser #*       C 11/28/17 Chicago Mission 19U              2020  01/19/02 5'08" 125 Westmont, IL      3.25
13 Nina Christof         F 05/30/19 Selects Academy 16U              2022  08/18/03 5'04" 141 Hammelburg, Germany 2.75
 3 Taylor Larsen *       D 09/14/18 Mississauga Hurricanes (PWHL)    2020  04/23/02 5'07" 145 Bolton, ON        3.25
13 Audrey McCutcheon     F 03/04/19 Stanstead College                2021  02/22/03 5'04" 135 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, QC 3.50
 2 Michelle Nutescu     LD 12/07/18 Shattuck-St. Mary's Prep         2021  11/19/02 5'07" 150 Northfield, IL    3.50
24 Madisyn Papineau *    F 05/17/18 Oakville Hornets (PWHL)          2020  03/29/02 5'07" 138 Sudbury, ON       3.50
10 Nyah Philip *#        F 10/23/19 Etobicoke Jr. Dolphins (PWHL)    2020  11/18/02 5'04" 153 Mississauga, ON   3.50
21 Asiah Taylor-Walters LW 11/25/17 Waterloo Rangers (PWHL)          2020  08/21/02 5'06" 150 Toronto, ON       3.25

* In the RPI directory
# Known to have signed National Letter of Intent
[b]The years the men's recruits are listed as committed for are not necessarily accurate.[/b]
The dates on which some of the women are listed as committing on may be considerably after the actual dates.
I am assuming that Neutral Zone regards their Star ratings as public because they often tweet them with committals.

STRENGTHS according to Neutral Zone (NZ doesn't include them for women):
Aw=Awareness/IQ, Ch= Character/Leadership, GS=Goal Scoring Ability, Sk=Skating, Sp=Speed, SH=Stick Handling Skill, 
St-Strength, To=Toughness, Vi=Vision/Passing
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If he was a stock listed on the NYSE at 2.75 i would buy a bunch of shares!!
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

Ralph Baer said:
If he is that good. The 2.75 bothers me although NZ can be wrong. Less than 3.25 is supposed to mean not of D-I quality. A matter of fact, 3.25 is marginal. https://www.neutralzone.net/mens/educational-blog-post/neutral-zone-star-ratings-player-rankings/

Then again, NZ is not infallible.
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Seems whenever a kid commits to a D1 school that Rating goes up. Having seen some of the kids play that NZ has Rated I put zero stock in their “opinion”.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

turk181 said:
Seems whenever a kid commits to a D1 school that Rating goes up. Having seen some of the kids play that NZ has Rated I put zero stock in their “opinion”.
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Except for Watson who went down. I do agree that he may go up.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

Just because an athlete says he is coming in the fall does not mean he is. I highly doubt he is coming this fall. He is a late '01 who is in his draft year. He would be a true freshman, which rarely happens unless they are projected to be selected in the NHL draft (which he is not). If turk saw him play and felt he needs at least a year of juniors, there is no way that the RPI coaching staff saw him and would think he is ready for D1. I really do not think he would jump from Canadian prep school all the way up to D1. His size and stats are good, but I have no idea what to make of them as I do not know how the talent is in Canadian prep school. Hopefully, he does not come in the fall, and we will know what to make of his stats in juniors.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

Ralph Baer said:
If he is that good. The 2.75 bothers me although NZ can be wrong. Less than 3.25 is supposed to mean not of D-I quality. A matter of fact, 3.25 is marginal. https://www.neutralzone.net/mens/educational-blog-post/neutral-zone-star-ratings-player-rankings/

Then again, NZ is not infallible.
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At this point, I'm putting my faith in the coaching staff. They've done a pretty darn nice job of ID'ing and landing kids somewhat under the radar like Savory, Kjellberg, Babichuk, Ashbrook, Klee, etc. Not mention the forwards who decommitted who shall remain nameless. I trust what they see in the new umlaut....:D
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

sezenack said:
Just because an athlete says he is coming in the fall does not mean he is. I highly doubt he is coming this fall. He is a late '01 who is in his draft year. He would be a true freshman, which rarely happens unless they are projected to be selected in the NHL draft (which he is not). If turk saw him play and felt he needs at least a year of juniors, there is no way that the RPI coaching staff saw him and would think he is ready for D1. I really do not think he would jump from Canadian prep school all the way up to D1. His size and stats are good, but I have no idea what to make of them as I do not know how the talent is in Canadian prep school. Hopefully, he does not come in the fall, and we will know what to make of his stats in juniors.
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That is a good point. It crossed my mind for other recruits before.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

Wicked Slappaahs said:
At this point, I'm putting my faith in the coaching staff. They've done a pretty darn nice job of ID'ing and landing kids somewhat under the radar like Savory, Kjellberg, Babichuk, Ashbrook, Klee, etc. Not mention the forwards who decommitted who shall remain nameless. I trust what they see in the new umlaut....:D
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None of those who were rated were below 3.00, but I do trust the coaches more than NZ. As was said by turk, they usually reevaluate after a commitment. And they make all sorts of errors.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

Ralph Baer said:
None of those who were rated were below 3.00, but I do trust the coaches more than NZ. As was said by turk, they usually reevaluate after a commitment. And they make all sorts of errors.
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True enough. As Doc reminds us regularly ...you can't teach size. Whether he comes in the fall or if he heads to juniors I like the frame and if he's got any edge and skating ability like Bubela had, then it'll be truly fun to have him...:D
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

sezenack said:
Just because an athlete says he is coming in the fall does not mean he is. I highly doubt he is coming this fall. He is a late '01 who is in his draft year. He would be a true freshman, which rarely happens unless they are projected to be selected in the NHL draft (which he is not). If turk saw him play and felt he needs at least a year of juniors, there is no way that the RPI coaching staff saw him and would think he is ready for D1. I really do not think he would jump from Canadian prep school all the way up to D1. His size and stats are good, but I have no idea what to make of them as I do not know how the talent is in Canadian prep school. Hopefully, he does not come in the fall, and we will know what to make of his stats in juniors.
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Makes sense. I was trying to remember the last player we got directly from prep or high school without a post-grad year in juniors. I think it was Parker Reno, who graduated 3 years ago. Based on his stats it looks like Nykanen may have potential, but he's not the kind of star that you would think we'd have to offer early to win away from the powerhouse programs. If he does come in next season my guess is that it would be as what the football programs call a recruited walk-on (also known as a preferred walk-on or PWO).
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

sezenack said:
I really do not think he would jump from Canadian prep school all the way up to D1. His size and stats are good, but I have no idea what to make of them as I do not know how the talent is in Canadian prep school.
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I assume in the modern game that Canadian prep school hockey talent is at least a level or two below junior programs, but I think we all know one very good former RPI player who made a successful jump directly from a Canadian school program to RPI.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

Code: 
 # Name                 Ps Team (League)                       Gm- G- A-  P- PM Next Gm
16 Alexander Babich     LW Chicago Mission 16U (HPHL 16U)      17- 8- 2- 10- 26 completed
                           Chicago Mission 16U (non-league)    12- 1- 4-  5-  2 completed missing games
                           HPHL 16U playoffs                    0- 0- 0-  0-  0 completed
                           Illinois State Championship          0- 0- 0-  0-  0 completed
                           Central District 16U Tourney         0- 0- 0-  0-  0 03/13/20
                           total                               29- 9- 6- 15- 28
 8 John Beaton          LW Youngstown Phantoms (USHL)          48-11-15- 26- 10 03/13/20
43 Jack Brackett        LW Powell River Kings (BCHL)           46-13-18- 31- 34 completed
                           playoffs                             2- 0- 0-  0-  2 completed
                           total                               48-13-18- 31- 36
16 Finn Brown           RW St Michael's Buzzers (OJHL)         53-29-25- 54- 12 completed
                           playoffs                             4- 1- 3-  4-  0 03/13/20
                           total                               57-30-28- 58- 12
                           OJHL Prospects Game                  1- 0- 1-  1-  0
                           CJHL Prospects Game                  1- 1- 0-  1-  0 
19 Dylan Davies         LD Omaha Lancers (USHL)                11- 0- 0-  0-  2 traded
 2                         Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL)         23- 0- 1-  1- 14 traded
 6                         Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)          3- 0- 1-  1-  2 03/13/20
                           total                               37- 0- 2-  2- 18 
13 Eric Fawkes           C Minnesota Wilderness (NAHL)         21- 3- 3-  6-  4 no longer on team
10                         Winkler Flyers (MJHL)               30- 7- 8- 15- 28 completed
                           playoffs                             3- 0- 1-  1-  2 03/12/20
                           total                               54-10-12- 22- 34
27 Jake Gagnon          RW Wellington Dukes (OJHL)             50-31-38- 69- 30 completed
                           playoffs                             4- 2- 2-  4-  4 03/13/20
                           total                               54-33-40- 73- 34
18 Max Itagaki          RW Janesville Jets (NAHL)              34- 4- 8- 12- 12 03/13/20
15 Reid Leibold          C Maryland Black Bears (NAHL)         52- 8-12- 20- 12 03/13/20
17                         NAHL Top Prospects Tourney           2- 1- 1-  2-  0
 6 Hunter McDonald      LD Rochester Jr. Monarchs (NCDC)       21- 2- 2-  4- 65 no longer on team
 5                         Corpus Christi IceRays (NAHL)        7- 1- 1-  2- 10 03/13/20
                           total                               28- 3- 3-  6- 75
22 James McIsaac      C/RW Brooks Bandits (AJHL)               50-14-26- 41- 61 completed
                           playoffs                             0- 0- 0-  0-  0 03/13/20
                           total                               50-14-26- 40- 61
31 Brett Miller          G Austin Bruins (NAHL)            33-20-11-0-2.57-.915 03/13/20
20 Altti Nykänen        LW Bishops College School              48-32-29- 61- 18 completed
49 Payton Robinson      RD Burlington Cougars (OJHL)           46- 2-13- 15- 14 completed
                           playoffs                             4- 0- 0-  0-  0 completed
                           total                               50- 2-13- 15- 14
                           OJHL Prospects Game                  1- 0- 0-  0-  0
20 Henri Schreifels      C Victoria Grizzlies (BCHL)           56-24-21- 45- 54 completed
                           playoffs                             4- 1- 1-  2-  4 completed
                           total                               60-25-22- 47- 58          
28 Lauri Sertti         LD Amarillo Bulls (NAHL)               47- 8-20- 28- 50 03/13/20
30 Jack Watson           G Coquitlam Express (BCHL)        17-12- 4-0-2.51-.911 completed
                           playoffs                         4- 4- 0-0-2.19-.908 03/13/20
                           total                           21-16- 4-0-2.44-.910
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
True enough. As Doc reminds us regularly ...you can't teach size. Whether he comes in the fall or if he heads to juniors I like the frame and if he's got any edge and skating ability like Bubela had, then it'll be truly fun to have him...:D
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Yes indeed, in fact now perhaps Finn Brown, Eric Fawkes, and Altti Nykänen will at least be able to talk to each other without having to stoop down! It appears from our slowly enlarging recruit list that we are indeed getting some Redwoods into the program. Obviously i would to have the best talent level we can find, but all things being equal, I like having that kind of size on the ice. My own opinion is that it makes a much larger impact (no pun intended) on defense but we have been running into some huge forwards lately who are 6'8" or 6'7" on the opposition and they have been hard to handle for us. It has worked for Cornell for the past many years and i suspect it will work for us also.
 
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FWIW, Espoo (Sertti) and Nummela (Nykänen) are only about 17 miles apart. They both played in the Blues system in Finland before coming to North America. As they are over two years apart in age, they were never on the same team, but they probably know each other. It has been mentioned before, but Sertti and Ottoville Leppänen (also Espoo) have played on the same team.

Leppänen retweeted Nykänen's tweet. https://twitter.com/Ovleppanen
 
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added Ashlyn Lewis, a 2021 women's recruit and also fixed the order that the women were listed.

Code: 
 # Name                 Ps commitm. Team (League)                    Year  DOB      Ht    Wt  Hometown          NZ *s
16 Alexander Babich     LW 02/16/19 Chicago Mission 16U (HPHL 16U)   2022  03/13/03 5'11" 170 Chicago, IL       3.25 x
 8 John Beaton *        LW 11/26/18 Youngstown Phantoms (USHL)       2020  10/31/00 6'01" 183 Stittsville, ON   3.50 x
43 Jack Brackett #*     LW 03/08/18 Powell River Kings (BCHL)        2020  12/31/00 5'10" 175 Manassas, VA      3.50 x
16 Finn Brown           RW 10/07/19 St Michael's Buzzers (OJHL)      2021  06/06/02 6'04" 188 Toronto, ON       3.75 St Sk To GS
 6 Dylan Davies #*      LD 10/10/18 Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)      2020  02/09/01 6'02" 188 Traverse City, MI 3.75 St Aw Vi
10 Eric Fawkes           C 10/17/18 Winkler Flyers (MJHL)            2020  03/13/01 6'03" 185 Winnipeg, MB      3.50 x
27 Jake Gagnon          RW 12/19/19 Wellington Dukes (OJHL)          2020  11/04/99 5'10" 170 Pointe Claire, QU 3.75 Sp SH Vi Sk
18 Max Itagaki          RW 09/23/18 Janesville Jets (NAHL)           2021  06/18/02 5'07" 160 Glenview, IL      3.50 Sp SH Aw Sk
15 Reid Leibold          C 09/08/17 Maryland Black Bears (NAHL)      2020  10/23/01 5'10" 175 Ashburn VA        3.75 Sp SH
 5 Hunter McDonald      LD 11/27/18 Corpus Christ IceRays (NAHL)     2021  05/11/02 6'02" 180 Fairport, NY      3.50 x
22 James McIsaac #    RW/C 10/23/18 Brooks Bandits (AJHL)            2020  04/29/99 5'11" 170 Winnipeg, MB      3.50 Sp To
31 Brett Miller #*       G 11/05/18 Austin Bruins (NAHL)             2020  04/26/99 6'01" 166 Northville, MI    3.25 x
20 Altti Nykänen        LW 03/10/20 Bishop's College School          2020  09/26/01 6'03" 183 Nummela, Finland  2.75 x
49 Payton Robinson      RD 10/21/19 Burlington Cougars (OJHL)        2022  04/30/03 6'02" 185 Mississauga, ON   3.50 x
20 Henri Schreifels     LW 01/19/20 Victoria Grizzlies               2021  07/02/00 6'01" 195 Agoura Hills, CA  3.25 x
28 Lauri Sertti         LD xx/xx/19 Amarillo Bulls (NAHL)            2020  07/11/99 6'01" 192 Espoo, Finland    3.75 SH Aw Vi Sk
30 Jack Watson           G 12/24/19 Coquitlam Express (BCHL)         2021  03/14/00 6'03" 195 Toronto, ON       3.25 x

Women
36 Sara Bayne #*         F 09/18/19 HoneyBaked 19U (HPHL)            2020  04/23/02 5'06" 135 Ypsilanti, MI     3.00
16 Meagan Byrum *        C 10/28/19 Washington Pride 19U (JWHL)      2020  08/25/02 5'07" 135 Potomac, MD       3.25
13 Nina Christof         F 05/30/19 Selects Academy 16U              2022  08/18/03 5'04" 141 Hammelburg, Germany 2.75
 3 Sophie Helgeson       D 04/30/19 Roseau High School               2021  03/10/03 5'06" 125 Roseau MN         4.00
 4                                  Minnesota Northern Starzz
 8 Mika Jahnke           F 03/09/20 Dallas Stars Elite 19U           2021  07/16/03 5'02" 130 xxxx, TX          3.75
 X Riena Jahnke          F 03/09/20 Seibu Princess Rabbits (Japan)   2020  08/05/01 5'03" 118 xxxx, TX          3.75
19 Aliya Jomha *         F 02/07/19 Edge School (CSSHL)              2020  09/27/02 5'06" 155 Edmonton, AB      3.25
 6 Sophia Jones          D 05/02/19 Connecticut Polar Bears 16U      2022  09/23/03 5'03" 135 Westfield, MA     3.50
 6                                  Williston Northampton School
10 Ellie Kaiser #*       C 11/28/17 Chicago Mission 19U              2020  01/19/02 5'08" 125 Westmont, IL      3.25
31 Ashlyn Lewis          G 03/11/20 NAHA White                       2021  01/21/03 5'09" 135 Breckenridge, CO  3.75
 3 Taylor Larsen *       D 09/14/18 Mississauga Hurricanes (PWHL)    2020  04/23/02 5'07" 145 Bolton, ON        3.25
13 Audrey McCutcheon     F 03/04/19 Stanstead College                2021  02/22/03 5'04" 135 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, QC 3.50
 2 Michelle Nutescu     LD 12/07/18 Shattuck-St. Mary's Prep         2021  11/19/02 5'07" 150 Northfield, IL    3.50
24 Madisyn Papineau *    F 05/17/18 Oakville Hornets (PWHL)          2020  03/29/02 5'07" 138 Sudbury, ON       3.50
10 Nyah Philip *#        F 10/23/19 Etobicoke Jr. Dolphins (PWHL)    2020  11/18/02 5'04" 153 Mississauga, ON   3.50
21 Asiah Taylor-Walters LW 11/25/17 Waterloo Rangers (PWHL)          2020  08/21/02 5'06" 150 Toronto, ON       3.25

* In the RPI directory
# Known to have signed National Letter of Intent
[b]The years the men's recruits are listed as committed for are not necessarily accurate.[/b]
The dates on which some of the women are listed as committing on may be considerably after the actual dates.
I am assuming that Neutral Zone regards their Star ratings as public because they often tweet them with committals.

STRENGTHS according to Neutral Zone (NZ doesn't include them for women):
Aw=Awareness/IQ, Ch= Character/Leadership, GS=Goal Scoring Ability, Sk=Skating, Sp=Speed, SH=Stick Handling Skill, 
St-Strength, To=Toughness, Vi=Vision/Passing
 
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