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RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

turk181 said:
somewhat of a connection with SA also as a member of the 2011 USA Ivan Hlinka Coaching staff led by Seth...........Varady was also on the coaching staff for Team USA at the 2011 Ivan Hlinka Memorial Tournament, helping the team win the silver medal. http://www.ushl.com/news.php?action=detail&news_id=1821
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Also the video coach for the dude that said they'll be a star. (Dean Blais, 2010 WJC)
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

I am still thinking that when I was watching the 1985 RPI-UMD game, I would never have guessed that Mark Jooris's son would have gone to Union and Skeeter Moore's to RPI. (I wouldn't have even thought that union would have a D-I team.)
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

FlagDUDE08 said:
Makes me wonder if, should Moore do very well for RPI, certain posters will be channeling Don Cherry after Canada lost in the 2010 WJC... :eek:
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I will have to chew on the meaning of that. of course, Moore is due to graduate in 2018, and who knows if I will still be alive at 70. :eek: :eek:
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

Ralph Baer said:
I will have to chew on the meaning of that. of course, Moore is due to graduate in 2018, and who knows if I will still be alive at 70. :eek: :eek:
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I'll make it somewhat easier. After the USA won the gold medal in WJC 2010, Don Cherry went on a tirade that it was because of Canada that they were able to win (through playing in Canadian junior leagues) and had absolutely nothing to do with "American development". Basically a "you didn't build that" moment.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

This keeps falling off the first page. :D

Code: 
 # Name                Ps commitm. Team (League)                   Year  DOB      Ht    Wt  Hometown             Gm- G- A-  P- PM Next Gm
23 Riley Bourbonnais * LC 09/18/11 Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 2013  08/08/93 5'10" 190 Rochester, NY        17- 7- 9- 16-  8 traded
23                                 Sioux City Musketeers (USHL)                                                  16- 9- 6- 15- 26 traded
14                                 Lincoln Stars (USHL)                                                          30- 9- 9- 18- 12
                                                                                            playoffs              3- 0- 3-  2-  2
                                                                                            total                66-25-27- 52- 48
20 Jimmy DeVito *      RW 01/10/12 Lincoln Stars (USHL)            2013  04/02/94 5'10" 165 Bloomingdale, IL     57- 6-14- 20-113
                                                                                            playoffs              5- 0- 0-  0-  2
                                                                                            total                62- 6-14- 20-115
 ? Carlos Fornaris      C 02/13/13 Springfield Rifles U18 (Mass18) 2014  02/07/95 5'09" 150 Miami, FL            10- 5- 4-  9-  4
10                                 Northfield Mt. Hermon (NEDI)                                                  27- 8-24- 32-  x
                                                                                            total                37-13-28- 41-  x
22 Charles Manley      LD 12/19/11 Selects Hockey Academy (USEHL)  2014  07/16/96 5'09" 155 Orchard Park, NY      0- 0- 0-  0-  0 no stats
26                                 Waterloo Black Hawks (USHL)                                                    4- 0- 2-  2-  2
27 Drew Melanson #*    LW 01/28/11 Omaha Lancers (USHL)            2013  01/10/95 5'10" 160 Paramus, NJ          61-13-16- 29-  4
15 Meirs Moore          D 05/21/13 Duluth East H. S.               2014  12/04/94 5'08" 172 Duluth, MN           25-17-21- 38- 10
                                                                                            sectionals            3- 1- 8-  9-  0
                                                                                            state tourney         3- 1- 1-  2-  2
23                                 Sioux City Musketeers (USHL)                                                   9- 0- 0-  0- 20     
                                                                                            total                40-19-30- 49- 32
27?Michael Prapavessis LD 02/02/13 Mississauga Rebels Midget Major 14/15 01/07/96 6'01" 170 Oakville, ON          0- 0- 0-  0-  0 promoted, no stats
77                                 Toronto Lakeshore Patriots(OJHL)                                              25- 2- 9- 11-  2
                                                                                            playoffs              6- 0- 3-  3-  2
                                                                                            total                31- 2-12- 14-  4
 5 Parker Reno #*      RD 11/12/12 Edina H.S.(Lake Conf)           2013  01/20/95 6'01" 195 Edina, MN            25- 1-17- 18- 22
                                                                                            sectionals            3- 1- 1-  2-  0
                                                                                            state tourney         3- 0- 3-  3-  0
13                                 Lincoln Stars (USHL)                                                           2- 0- 0-  0-  0 
                                                                                            total                33- 2-21- 23- 22
15 Evan Tironese       LW 05/01/12 Alberni Valley Bulldogs (BCHL)  2014  08/02/95 5'09" 163 Qualicum Beach, BC   51-19-38- 57- 62
                                                                                            playoffs             14- 4- 8- 12- 26
                                                                                            total                65-23-46- 69- 88
26 Jake Wood #* @      LW 01/10/11 Lincoln Stars (USHL)            2013  08/06/93 5'07" 160 Georgetown, ON       60-11-15- 26-151
                                                                                            playoffs              4- 0- 0-  0-  4
                                                                                            total                64-11-15- 28-155
 1 Jake Soffer *        G 02/12/13 Boston Bandits (EJHL)           2013  12/17/92 6'01" 165 Potomac, MD      43- 9-14-2-3.17-.909
                                                                                            playoffs          3- 0- 0-0-x.xx-.xxx 
                                                                                            total            46- 9-14-2-3.16-.909
Women
11 Hannah Behounek #*   D 06/01/12 Minnetonka H.S. (Lake Conf)     2013  xx/xx/9x x'xx" xxx Minnetonka, MN       25- 5- 4-  9-  8
                                                                                            sectionals            3- 1- 1-  2-  2
                                                                                            state tourney         3- 2- 0-  2-  2
                                                                                            total                31- 8- 5- 13- 12
15 Laura Horwood *      F 11/29/12 Durham West Lightning (PWHL)    2013  05/20/95 5'06" 135 Belleville, ON       38-19-15- 34- 22
                                                                                            playoffs              7- 2- 3-  5-  2
                                                                                            nonleague games      18-12-12- 24-  x
                                                                                            total                61-33-30- 63-  x
15                                 Ontario Team Blue                                                              5- 0- 1-  1-  0 
13 Katie Rooney *       F 08/05/12 Buffalo H.S. (Mississippi 8)    2013  xx/xx/9x x'xx" xxx Buffalo, MN          25-37-26- 63- 12
                                                                                            sectionals            2- 1- 2-  3-  0 
                                                                                            total                27-38-28- 66- 12
 ? Shayna Tomlinson     F 04/08/13 St Pauls School                 2014  xx/xx/95 x'xx" xxx Wolfeboro, NH         0- 0- 0-  0-  0
 ?                                 Assabet Valley U19                                                             0- 0- 0-  0-  0
                                                                                            total                 0- 0- 0-  0-  0

* In the RPI directory
# Known to have signed Letter of Intent
@ It is known that Jake Wood did not play in one game which in the stats he is listed as playing in.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

Ralph Baer said:
I hope that you are correct. I still am somewhat concerned about his size. Also, just going by his line 9-0-0-0-20, he seems to have had some trouble adapting to the USHL, although he may have not been used in the situations that he was accustomed to. On the other hand Manley seems to have done fairly well in an even shorter stay there.


Edit: Moore was, however, +5 in those nine games.
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RB - Your longstanding concern and preferences re: dmen stature are well-documented and so noted. :D I continue to be of the opinion that there is a place for shifty, puck moving dmen in the college game. Watching MSU product Torey Krug (who is now 5'9 180) playing for the B's last night only confirms this for me. Moore is already this size.... Of course, the odds are against guys of this size making the bigs, but having an impactful career as a D1 player is well within the rhelm of possibility.

This statement tells me all I need to know: "...“They love the way I play, and the system they play is right up my alley,” he said. “They are going to have me paired with a bigger defenseman — more of a stay-at-home defenseman — and I will have free reign to rush the puck up into the play and create as many offensive chances as I can.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

FlagDUDE08 said:
I'll make it somewhat easier. After the USA won the gold medal in WJC 2010, Don Cherry went on a tirade that it was because of Canada that they were able to win (through playing in Canadian junior leagues) and had absolutely nothing to do with "American development". Basically a "you didn't build that" moment.
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OK, that makes some sense. Somehow I think that if I were to post that Union's recent success was even partially due to the training that Josh Jooris got from his father, an RPI grad, it wouldn't fly. :rolleyes:
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

Wicked Slappaahs said:
RB - Your longstanding concern and preferences re: dmen stature are well-documented and so noted. :D I continue to be of the opinion that there is a place for shifty, puck moving dmen in the college game. Watching MSU product Torey Krug (who is now 5'9 180) playing for the B's last night only confirms this for me. Moore is already this size.... Of course, the odds are against guys of this size making the bigs, but having an impactful career as a D1 player is well within the rhelm of possibility.

This statement tells me all I need to know: "...“They love the way I play, and the system they play is right up my alley,” he said. “They are going to have me paired with a bigger defenseman — more of a stay-at-home defenseman — and I will have free reign to rush the puck up into the play and create as many offensive chances as I can.
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There is certainly a place for shifty, puck moving dmen. The question is how many do we need. You have met me -- I have a distinct preference for short people. :)
 
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I should add that I commented about Moore's 9-0-0-0-20 line in the USHL. Fourteen of those minutes were on one play, a double minor and a misconduct with others getting similar penalties.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

Ralph Baer said:
There is certainly a place for shifty, puck moving dmen. The question is how many do we need. You have met me -- I have a distinct preference for short people. :)
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After re-reading the quote that WS posted, I'm convinced that Moore is going to be a direct reload for when Bo Dolan graduates. Perhaps they will be figuring out how well he fits in with the BRO. ;)
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

FlagDUDE08 said:
After re-reading the quote that WS posted, I'm convinced that Moore is going to be a direct reload for when Bo Dolan graduates. Perhaps they will be figuring out how well he fits in with the BRO. ;)
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He'll hide behind Curadi and shoot between his legs. ;)
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

Ralph Baer said:
I hope that you are correct. I still am somewhat concerned about his size. Also, just going by his line 9-0-0-0-20, he seems to have had some trouble adapting to the USHL, although he may have not been used in the situations that he was accustomed to. On the other hand Manley seems to have done fairly well in an even shorter stay there.
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Small sample size, but I have seen DE play at least a dozen times the past two seasons. Although HS play doesn't always transfer to the college game he is very gifted with the puck, and plays very smart positional hockey defensively. Obviously will never be a bruiser, yet his probable lack of NHL potential shouldn't deter him at RPI.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13 (Part III)

Wicked Slappaahs said:
RB - Your longstanding concern and preferences re: dmen stature are well-documented and so noted. :D I continue to be of the opinion that there is a place for shifty, puck moving dmen in the college game. Watching MSU product Torey Krug (who is now 5'9 180) playing for the B's last night only confirms this for me. Moore is already this size.... Of course, the odds are against guys of this size making the bigs, but having an impactful career as a D1 player is well within the rhelm of possibility.

This statement tells me all I need to know: "...“They love the way I play, and the system they play is right up my alley,” he said. “They are going to have me paired with a bigger defenseman — more of a stay-at-home defenseman — and I will have free reign to rush the puck up into the play and create as many offensive chances as I can.
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Times certainly do change though. When I was playing a bit as a young man-5'9" and 180 was either a big bruising power forward or a very decent sized defenseman. As most here know-I am one of those who strongly believes you cannot teach size. But at teh college level in particular-talent and speed can make up for much of that and be an even more important asset. As long as the entire defensive corps is not of similar size, we should be able to defend against the bigger forwards of the Division I teams without any problem.
 
Ralph Baer said:
There is certainly a place for shifty, puck moving dmen. The question is how many do we need. You have met me -- I have a distinct preference for short people. :)
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look at Ferris State D-core two years ago. I think everyone was under 6'. But they all could skate. System wise, they all played a very tight gap in the nuetral zone, challenging every pass. They were able to do this because there was alway a back checking forward coming back through the middle. They were able to plug up the neutral zone, forcing turn over and then, quickly transitioning to offense of the turnover they forced. Teams would then result to dump and chase, then just lost the race to the loose puck to those speedy, small defensemen, who once again, were transitioning to offense from thier.

Point I'm trying to make, systems are key here, were some will support your team personal strengths.

Also, with the way the college game is now being called, the big/harding hitting defensemen can be a real liability with the head contact, etc point of emphasis, on top of the NZ crackdown on inference.
 
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