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RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

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FlagDUDE08 said:
Lots of leaders isn't a good thing, actually..... As has been mentioned several times, we had great individuals, but a horrible team. The last time I checked, the name on the back doesn't win or lose games.
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Yeah right, that's why the recruiters at West Point are always scouring the local Taco Bells to sign up the kids wearing Metallica t-shirts , skipping school.

Let's see.... 10 of 16 forwards were underclassmen, and more than a few of them were injured during the season. The loose coalition (you claim they weren't a team) went 7-1-1 on the road to close out the season...beating Clarkson at Cheel and giving Union a run at the salt bunker. Some might argue (correctly) that the team grew as the season progressed and they got healthy.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
Yeah right, that's why the recruiters at West Point are always scouring the local Taco Bells to sign up the kids wearing Metallica t-shirts , skipping school.

Let's see.... 10 of 16 forwards were underclassmen, and more than a few of them were injured during the season. The loose coalition (you claim they weren't a team) went 7-1-1 on the road to close out the season...beating Clarkson at Cheel and giving Union a run at the salt bunker. Some might argue (correctly) that the team grew as the season progressed and they got healthy.
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Spot on. +1 I'll take leaders every day of the week. What we also saw at the end of last year was character. Leaders have that.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
Yeah right, that's why the recruiters at West Point are always scouring the local Taco Bells to sign up the kids wearing Metallica t-shirts , skipping school.

Let's see.... 10 of 16 forwards were underclassmen, and more than a few of them were injured during the season. The loose coalition (you claim they weren't a team) went 7-1-1 on the road to close out the season...beating Clarkson at Cheel and giving Union a run at the salt bunker. Some might argue (correctly) that the team grew as the season progressed and they got healthy.
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Context. LEARN IT. You skipped the one part that completely refuted your argument just so you could give me a tongue lashing.
 
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IMO, the fact that the recruit announcement came so soon after the last couple of recruits appeared in the directory makes me think that it was more likely that they were waiting for all of the recruits to all be formally admitted rather than Bubela to get through the NCAA clearing house. Either that was solved earlier or it wasn't a concern.
 
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Senna said:
Spot on. +1 I'll take leaders every day of the week. What we also saw at the end of last year was character. Leaders have that.
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I agree with FlagDUDE that early in the season we had five skaters on the ice every shift, not a team. Who knows what exactly it was that lead to that-could have been anything, including or regardless of lots of guys used to leading. But Wicked is also right-they pulled it together and turned it around at the end of the season. I really hope that team shows up again this fall, and that they can integrate the new recruits easily into the system without the rough transition we had this year. Easier said than done, I know.
 
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Now i can be officially excited. Looks like we really added a lot at least on paper. But then, I sort of feel that way every year. I must admit though that I do like some of the size we added up front and we do seem to be building a very decent defensive corps. We certainly will have a lot of bodies fighting for ice time at just about every position. Hope this means that this year Jenny and I get to use our AC tickets!!
 
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DrDemento said:
Now i can be officially excited. Looks like we really added a lot at least on paper. But then, I sort of feel that way every year. I must admit though that I do like some of the size we added up front and we do seem to be building a very decent defensive corps. We certainly will have a lot of bodies fighting for ice time at just about every position. Hope this means that this year Jenny and I get to use our AC tickets!!
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Most orobably your last opportunity. :)
 
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REDaero91 said:
I agree with FlagDUDE that early in the season we had five skaters on the ice every shift, not a team. Who knows what exactly it was that lead to that-could have been anything, including or regardless of lots of guys used to leading. But Wicked is also right-they pulled it together and turned it around at the end of the season. I really hope that team shows up again this fall, and that they can integrate the new recruits easily into the system without the rough transition we had this year. Easier said than done, I know.
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I hope that we can start off the upcoming season where we left off last year as opposed to building from scratch. It just took too long for the 'Tute to become a team last year.
 
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REDaero91 said:
I agree with FlagDUDE that early in the season we had five skaters on the ice every shift, not a team. Who knows what exactly it was that lead to that-could have been anything, including or regardless of lots of guys used to leading. But Wicked is also right-they pulled it together and turned it around at the end of the season. I really hope that team shows up again this fall, and that they can integrate the new recruits easily into the system without the rough transition we had this year. Easier said than done, I know.
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There was never any doubt of the team pulling it together. However, notice that the record was fabulous on the road, but abysmal at home. As cliché as Coach Appert's comments were about why the team did better on the road in the second half of the year, he's absolutely correct. Also, the growth was not limited to the players. I think Coach finally realised that as a head coach, you cannot take a passive leadership role and depend upon your captains to be the active leaders, especially if you have a team filled with captains. Coach was, IMO, spoiled with the recruitment of Kennedy, as he is a natural leader, and people seemed to gravitate towards him, and is probably also a big reason why he stood behind the bench while injured.

I fully expect a sharp improvement by all parties concerned at the beginning of this year. Last year, the flaws were exposed. We've had plenty of time to patch it.
 
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REDaero91 said:
I agree with FlagDUDE that early in the season we had five skaters on the ice every shift, not a team. Who knows what exactly it was that lead to that-could have been anything, including or regardless of lots of guys used to leading. But Wicked is also right-they pulled it together and turned it around at the end of the season. I really hope that team shows up again this fall, and that they can integrate the new recruits easily into the system without the rough transition we had this year. Easier said than done, I know.
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What we had last year was a bunch of inexperienced players trying to figure out the college game and realizing how much of a higher level the college game is than where they came from. What we had at the end of the year was a bunch of players that understood the effort that was necessary to be successful at the Div.1 level. That bodes well for this year because they fully understand what the compete level needs to be to have a chance in every game. The fact that there were a number of those players whom wore C's and A's for previous teams IMO was a non factor. When it may be a factor is this year when the incoming freshmen come in they can step up and hopefully help them avoid some pitfalls that they encountered. This is a hard game at the D1 level its not for boys its for men only and the quicker the new meat understands that the further ahead they'll be !!!!
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Context. LEARN IT. You skipped the one part that completely refuted your argument just so you could give me a tongue lashing.
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Your opening sentence was all the CONTEXT I could stomach. And the ensuing sentences that followed did nothing refute it. But nice try.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
Your opening sentence was all the CONTEXT I could stomach. And the ensuing sentences that followed did nothing refute it. But nice try.
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Did I not say "the first couple of months"? I noticed that you conveniently took it out in order to go on your tirade. Do not make assumptions with me, because you will very likely be wrong.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Did I not say "the first couple of months"? I noticed that you conveniently took it out in order to go on your tirade. Do not make assumptions with me, because you will very likely be wrong.
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"Lots of leaders isn't a good thing, actually." - Flag Dude July 2012

Fatally flawed, no matter how you choose to parse it.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
"Lots of leaders isn't a good thing, actually." - Flag Dude July 2012

Fatally flawed, no matter how you choose to parse it.
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So seemingly simple....I would much rather have a team stacked with leaders and kids who have tasted success at earlier levels in their career, than have a team of followers and kids that havent ever won anything and know what it takes to succeed. I'm with WS here on this and quite frankly am stunned that anyone would actively pursue building a team / program in any oher way.
 
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It is indeed impressive that seven of our nine recruits wore either a C or an A. The only two who didn't were Kasdorf, who as a goalie was unlikely to, and Bubela, who joined Dubuque in the middle of the season.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

Wicked Slappaahs said:
"Lots of leaders isn't a good thing, actually." - Flag Dude July 2012

Fatally flawed, no matter how you choose to parse it.
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Leadership is great no matter where it comes from. But no team wins without role players and people who were leaders in previous experiences taking the correct attitude and playing a team game.
It is after all a team. Everyone has his role to play on that team.
Lets go red!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Senna said:
So seemingly simple....I would much rather have a team stacked with leaders and kids who have tasted success at earlier levels in their career, than have a team of followers and kids that havent ever won anything and know what it takes to succeed. I'm with WS here on this and quite frankly am stunned that anyone would actively pursue building a team / program in any oher way.
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You wouldn't want a great deal of role players who, together, would very effectively strengthen the team? I guess you were with the anti-Herb Brooks group for the 1980 Olympics. :rolleyes:
 
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There are Captains who lead by example and those who lead by taking charge. We really need more of the former kind than we have had lately.
 
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