Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Off-Season Thread 2012 Part III: BYOB: Bring Your Own Bratwurst
I have many times heard that the reason that RPI stayed in the ECAC in the mid80's was that RPI (the Admin) regarded this association with the Ivies as a distinct plus for the school, and let's face it, at that time even Hokydad would have thought that RPI was on the upswing and was much in demand. I suspect that the other non-Ivy schools feel similarly. The Ivies regard the non-Ivies in a similar light, but they think that if they have to associate with some other D-I schools, this is about as good as it will get. So the questions are 1) do the Ivies gain something from the non-Ivies and 2) do the Ivies regard a six-team league as viable, since neither Penn nor Columbia show any signs of starting a program. To 1, not as much as they used to since the non-Ivies are mostly in a down period currently. On the other hand, the fact that the non-Ivies are down currently has opened up NCAA berths more to the Ivies. To 2, it's viable, but I personally think it would hurt them in the long run.
I would love to know how the voting on the tourney location went. I can see that most of the Ivies are farther away from LP than most of the non-Ivies, but besides for that, I am not sure why the Ivies (as a group) should regard that as the last straw. I would think that if several of the Ivies regarded LP as the last straw, it would not have been chosen unless the non-Ivies wouldn't mind the Ivies going their own way.I will steer it to hockey and God willing, I will be here in 3 years so everyone can tell me how wrong I am. (I hope this info is wrong). The move to Lake Placid is pretty much the last straw for SOME of the Ivies. Several AD's and or presidents looking to break away from ECAC and start a 6 team Ivy league. Conceding they will have to stay thru 2014-15 but look for some more news on this in the not to distant future.
I have many times heard that the reason that RPI stayed in the ECAC in the mid80's was that RPI (the Admin) regarded this association with the Ivies as a distinct plus for the school, and let's face it, at that time even Hokydad would have thought that RPI was on the upswing and was much in demand. I suspect that the other non-Ivy schools feel similarly. The Ivies regard the non-Ivies in a similar light, but they think that if they have to associate with some other D-I schools, this is about as good as it will get. So the questions are 1) do the Ivies gain something from the non-Ivies and 2) do the Ivies regard a six-team league as viable, since neither Penn nor Columbia show any signs of starting a program. To 1, not as much as they used to since the non-Ivies are mostly in a down period currently. On the other hand, the fact that the non-Ivies are down currently has opened up NCAA berths more to the Ivies. To 2, it's viable, but I personally think it would hurt them in the long run.