RPI Off-Season Thread 2012: An Off-Season to Be Optimistic

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI Off-Season Thread 2012: An Off-Season to Be Optimistic

Dont mean to bring this topic back up again but since its NCAA tournament time I just wanted to mention some more comparisons in regards to Ivy vs non-Ivy in the tournament over the last 10 years. In those 10 years, Ivy schools have received 17 total bids with 24 games and record of 8-16 (.333) in those games. Non-Ivy schools have only received 7 bids with just 7 games and a record of 1-6 (.143).

Thanks for doing the rest of the work for the comparison that i started with posting the top 4 spots in the ECAC since 2001. As I mentioned then, who knows what this will all mean. The Ivies will simply do what they feel will benefit them the most.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI Off-Season Thread 2012: An Off-Season to Be Optimistic

Good to see that your medical-related operations went well, or at least well enough that you are still able to communicate with us.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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They could? They don't meet any of the 3 criteria Bertagna is talking about. I guess if you think they could build a new building, go to 18 scholarships and address their Title IX issues in the next 18 months then you can include them.

We can probably rule out HC, but UConn could do it if they wanted to. I think that they can be bigger competitors than QU assuming that our admins are interested.

 

[redhead18]

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We can probably rule out HC, but UConn could do it if they wanted to. I think that they can be bigger competitors than QU assuming that our admins are interested.

Im still not sure how UConn will work out their Title IX issues. They already offer every womens sport that the Big East sponsors, so they cant go add more sports like golf, etc... to make up for the 18 mens hockey scholarships needed. Now if they join the ACC someday, they could add womens golf which has a 6 scholarship limit. The only way I see this working is if they cut some mens scholarships in other sports and im not sure if the school would want to do that.

I know there have been some previous rumors about UConn possibly joining the Big10 someday as well, if that were to happen, UConn could add golf(6) and gymnastics(12) which would give them the 18 scholarships needed in womens sports.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Off-Season Thread 2012: An Off-Season to Be Optimistic

Im still not sure how UConn will work out their Title IX issues. They already offer every womens sport that the Big East sponsors, so they cant go add more sports like golf, etc... to make up for the 18 mens hockey scholarships needed. Now if they join the ACC someday, they could add womens golf which has a 6 scholarship limit. The only way I see this working is if they cut some mens scholarships in other sports and im not sure if the school would want to do that.

Do they already give scholarships in women's hockey?

 

[redhead18]

Re: RPI Off-Season Thread 2012: An Off-Season to Be Optimistic

Do they already give scholarships in women's hockey?

A guess would be yes, considering they are somewhat competitive in womens Hockey East. Plus, im assuming they are maxed out on all womens sports to make up for the massive amount of scholarships needed for football, which I think is 85.

 

[redhead18]

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We can probably rule out HC

I think it will be interesting to see what happens at Holy Cross, now that Patriot League schools are allowed to use scholarships for football. I bet you see them upgrade their womens hockey team to D1 to help even out scholarships.

 

[WillOutDrinkYou]

RPI TV tends to cling to their alumni rather tightly (or vice versa), I'm sure I'll still be involved. To what extent depends where I end up in a couple months. I haven't been in charge since January, but I still generally know what's going on. Mackek2 is a senior (I think?) as well.

Do you know why when games at HFH are on TWC3 they do not shut off the lights and use the spotlights while introducing the players as they do when it is not on TWC3? I thought it had something to do with TWC3 but it must not be since they still turn them off at Union when they are on TWC3.

 

[RHamilton]

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Do you know why when games at HFH are on TWC3 they do not shut off the lights and use the spotlights while introducing the players as they do when it is not on TWC3? I thought it had something to do with TWC3 but it must not be since they still turn them off at Union when they are on TWC3.

I'm not entirely sure, I assume it has to do with the sensitivity of the cameras to light and the duration it takes the lights at the Field House to turn on, although this is less of an issue since the new lights were installed last year. There's still an awkward period where the lights put off a nasty green shade as they warm up, but I believe TW usually cuts to commercial during the anthems and warmup period anyway. We requested that lights stay up during our Time Warner broadcast mainly due to the poor low-light sensitivity of our cheaper prosumer cameras.

 

[Waite21]

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With so many outlets competing for some kind of programming somebody will watch, I find it almost impossible to even comprehend how a certain staff could not get any of our tournament on TV but others manage to get the following on.

1) Verifably insane people, who also must be pretty money hungry, risking life and limb to drive 18 wheelers across frozen bodies of water in Alaska. Not a week goes by that I can't watch the "polar bear" Hugh Rowlands driving his load through Hennigan Pass and Whitefish on the way to Big Bear or wherever the hell he is going.

Which seems like the saner way to make a living?

(1) Being a truck driver, taking 18 wheelers across frozen bodies of water; or
(2) Being a hockey goalie, standing in front of a 4-by-6 foot net toward which hard frozen rubber disks come flying at 100 miles an hour - and trying to get in the way?

 

[DrDemento]

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Which seems like the saner way to make a living?

(1) Being a truck driver, taking 18 wheelers across frozen bodies of water; or
(2) Being a hockey goalie, standing in front of a 4-by-6 foot net toward which hard frozen rubber disks come flying at 100 miles an hour - and trying to get in the way?

Waite; Now picture that same goalie doing all that-without a mask! And you got Terry Sawchuck, Johnny Bower, and a whole bunch more guys who had real guts (and spilled a lot of those guts on the ice)

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Im still not sure how UConn will work out their Title IX issues. They already offer every womens sport that the Big East sponsors, so they cant go add more sports like golf, etc... to make up for the 18 mens hockey scholarships needed. Now if they join the ACC someday, they could add womens golf which has a 6 scholarship limit. The only way I see this working is if they cut some mens scholarships in other sports and im not sure if the school would want to do that....

Well, seeing as how the UConn men's hoop team is on the verge of being declared academically ineligible for post season play in 2013, perhaps their Admin could grow a pair and do the world a favor and kiss Calhoun and his crew adios....

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Waite; Now picture that same goalie doing all that-without a mask! And you got Terry Sawchuck, Johnny Bower, and a whole bunch more guys who had real guts (and spilled a lot of those guts on the ice)

Amen Doc...my father was one of 'em. For a long time, he held the dubious honor of holding the HFH record for saves in the building (66)...having faced one of Ned's blockbuster teams (in 53' or 54' if memory serves.) I have a copy of the program somewhere.

 

[rpi82]

Well, seeing as how the UConn men's hoop team is on the verge of being declared academically ineligible for post season play in 2013, perhaps their Admin could grow a pair and do the world a favor and kiss Calhoun and his crew adios....

There's still a chance that will be reversed. The NCAA took away scholarships for the APR issue. They then changed the rules and made it a loss of post-season violation, effectively punishing UConn twice for the same violation. Only the NCAA could do that.

UConn already gives 18 scholarships for women's hockey. They are also fund-raising for a new basketball practice facility, baseball stadium and soccer stadium. Given that HE will require at a bare minimum a major upgrade to the Freitas Ice Forum, and quite likely a new building, I don't think they'd even be considering a men's upgrade if they didn't view this as a once in a long while opportunity (i.e. if RPI or QU get the slot there might not be another chance for the forseeable future).

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Off-Season Thread 2012: An Off-Season to Be Optimistic

Today is 20 March 2012. There are 200 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 6 October for the start of next season.

That is the day that an exhibition game is supposedly scheduled.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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I think it will be interesting to see what happens at Holy Cross, now that Patriot League schools are allowed to use scholarships for football. I bet you see them upgrade their womens hockey team to D1 to help offset the amount of mens scholarships.

Their rink holds fewer than 2000 which also isn't sufficient.

 

[redhead18]

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There rink holds fewer than 2000 which also isn't sufficient.

True. However, the city of Worcester has already said they would allow Holy Cross to use the DCU Center for its home games.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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True. However, the city of Worcester has already said they would allow Holy Cross to use the DCU Center for its home games.

I still think that the only reason that HC might get it is because I think that they won't.

 

[redhead18]

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I still think that the only reason that HC might get it is because I think that they won't.

Another issue they could run into is what I brought up previously about the Patriot League using scholarships for football now. Can Holy Cross give out the 63 football scholarships, as well as give out more scholarships for mens hockey without getting into Title IX issues? They could bring their womens hockey team from D3 to D1, that would cut the difference by 18.

Also, I see Niagara has cut its womens hockey program, could throw a road block into any possible plans they had in joining the ECAC someday, especially if QU or RPI leave for Hockey East. Assuming the league wants to stay at an even number for mens/womens teams.

 

[DrDemento]

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Amen Doc...my father was one of 'em. For a long time, he held the dubious honor of holding the HFH record for saves in the building (66)...having faced one of Ned's blockbuster teams (in 53' or 54' if memory serves.) I have a copy of the program somewhere.

Wicked-As a youngster my dad took me to MSG for every game he could afford during the 50's. We used to go down to the locker rooms after the game to try to get an autograph or two. I still remember the faces of the goalies back then. I jad just seen the original Frankenstein movie-and some of these faces scared me more than that movie. I recall specifically though that it wasn't a goalie face but the face of a forward for Detroit-Ted Lindsay-that made me start to think about doing cosmetic facial surgery for a career. I don't think you could count the stitches that went into that face. BTW I have a vivid memory of the first time I saw a goalie play with a mask at MSG-Jacques Plante came out with what could now be considered a stone age type of mask to play against the Rangers. I think it was late 1959(as i was just reaching my teenage years). It seemed so weird to see him play with a mask on. If I recall though that Sunday afternoon it did not help him much as he took a shot directly in the throat off the stick of either Andy Bathgate or Camille('the eel') Henry. it didn't matter though as usual Montreal crushed my home team Rangers which was the norm for those days. I know-people will say the shots weren't as hard and fast in those olden days-but regardless, you had to have a big set of cajones to play goal back then.