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I would think so.
I would think so.
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RPI MMXI III: Overanalyzing The Iron Men and Other Uses of Internet Bandwidth
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Ralph Baer
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Troy record article about the BU game http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/...4d00702115d0d633177592.txt?viewmode=fullstory. lee will likeLy play, machuk is questionable, and O'Grady and JFK are out.
Troy record article about the BU game http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/...4d00702115d0d633177592.txt?viewmode=fullstory. lee will likeLy play, machuk is questionable, and O'Grady and JFK are out.
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Will be nice to get CJ back in the lineup. Glad they are taking it slow with Malchuk and OGrady. In the scheme of things, this game is not as important as the remainder of the season and we need to get both Joel and Marty back fully healthy for the long haul. I can just imagine how much JFK is chomping on the bit to get back in and hit somebody and it should not be much longer.
Will be nice to get CJ back in the lineup. Glad they are taking it slow with Malchuk and OGrady. In the scheme of things, this game is not as important as the remainder of the season and we need to get both Joel and Marty back fully healthy for the long haul. I can just imagine how much JFK is chomping on the bit to get back in and hit somebody and it should not be much longer.
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With the recent string of head injuries going around, I wonder if RPI has any plans to start using those specialized helmets to help prevent these type of injuries. Something similar to the M11's that Harvard has been using the past couple years. I know that RPI uses Warrior equipment now but im not sure if the current helmets the team is wearing are made by Warrior or not. Might be something to look into in the near future.
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Excellent point-in all the years of following the team I cannot recall 3 concussions at the same time.
Excellent point-in all the years of following the team I cannot recall 3 concussions at the same time.
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We've been having a lot of difficulties staying healthy. Last year there was Bergin, Lee, also D'Amigo was getting a bit banged up. Obviously both Bergin and Malchuk had to go through redshirt years, there were some injuries come playoff time in 2008-09 that I was stunned they gutted through.
We've been having a lot of difficulties staying healthy. Last year there was Bergin, Lee, also D'Amigo was getting a bit banged up. Obviously both Bergin and Malchuk had to go through redshirt years, there were some injuries come playoff time in 2008-09 that I was stunned they gutted through.
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http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2010/dec/09/hicks-to-officiate-rpi-bu-game-saturday/
http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2010/dec/09/hicks-to-officiate-rpi-bu-game-saturday/
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Paul Stewart does not get it. He is putting Hicks in a tough spot. My problem with the ECAC is that they never learn from mistakes. They should not put Hicks in that position. BTW- Nice reporting by Mr. Schott.
Paul Stewart does not get it. He is putting Hicks in a tough spot. My problem with the ECAC is that they never learn from mistakes. They should not put Hicks in that position. BTW- Nice reporting by Mr. Schott.
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It's not that they don't learn from their mistakes, it's two things: One, there are only so many refs in the rotation, and it might seem a little weird to have the same couple of refs do the same location night in and night out, so you're going to have to have them in the rotation sooner or later. Two, there has to be some assumption that enough time has gone by so that the fans have forgotten. We haven't forgotten, though, and there may be some underestimation on the hostility of the crowd (like how Hansen needed a public safety escort after the "missed goal" in Fridgen's last regular season game with RPI).
I'm not advocating hostility at all, but with some of the crowds we have at HFH, you may start wondering...
It's not that they don't learn from their mistakes, it's two things: One, there are only so many refs in the rotation, and it might seem a little weird to have the same couple of refs do the same location night in and night out, so you're going to have to have them in the rotation sooner or later. Two, there has to be some assumption that enough time has gone by so that the fans have forgotten. We haven't forgotten, though, and there may be some underestimation on the hostility of the crowd (like how Hansen needed a public safety escort after the "missed goal" in Fridgen's last regular season game with RPI).
I'm not advocating hostility at all, but with some of the crowds we have at HFH, you may start wondering...
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On the bright side, because the game is being broadcast on NHL Network, there will presumably be the opportunity for video review for any goal/no-goal situations that might arise.
On the bright side, because the game is being broadcast on NHL Network, there will presumably be the opportunity for video review for any goal/no-goal situations that might arise.
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The other referee for Saturday's game is Harry Dumas. Dave Brown and Dan Taggart are the linesmen.
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Perhaps Dumas will be good-after all I liked what he wrote about the Count of Monte Cristo.
The other referee for Saturday's game is Harry Dumas. Dave Brown and Dan Taggart are the linesmen.
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Perhaps Dumas will be good-after all I liked what he wrote about the Count of Monte Cristo.
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FDude-I think if there is any way Malchuk can play he will. He is a warrior. The knee injury he suffered that necessitated the RedShirt year was just horrible to watch. I do not know the details but my guess is he had tears of both his Medial Collateral Ligament and Anterior Cruciate Ligament (at the very least) with some possible damage to the medial meniscus. Truthfully, I did not expect to see him back for 2 years. I was injured in a somewhat similar incident and tore my MCL and PCL along with the medial meniscus-the so called Terrible Triad-and it ended any hockey playing for me forever. I do not know the seriousness of any of the concussions but with any of those types of injuries you just have to err on the side of caution. Last year we certainly got banged up but the only concussion I recall was Bergin and he was out for considerable time.
FDude-I think if there is any way Malchuk can play he will. He is a warrior. The knee injury he suffered that necessitated the RedShirt year was just horrible to watch. I do not know the details but my guess is he had tears of both his Medial Collateral Ligament and Anterior Cruciate Ligament (at the very least) with some possible damage to the medial meniscus. Truthfully, I did not expect to see him back for 2 years. I was injured in a somewhat similar incident and tore my MCL and PCL along with the medial meniscus-the so called Terrible Triad-and it ended any hockey playing for me forever. I do not know the seriousness of any of the concussions but with any of those types of injuries you just have to err on the side of caution. Last year we certainly got banged up but the only concussion I recall was Bergin and he was out for considerable time.
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I'm having trouble getting riled up about this. The guy blew a call which on reflection I'm sure he'd like to have back. Sue him for being human. Its not like we weren't going to see Hicks again, when would folks prefer to see him at HFH for Cornell? Yale? In my view the failure - and our focus - falls on the league for not giving refs a basic tool to allow for review and correction of goal/no goal calls (video review). My .02.
I'm having trouble getting riled up about this. The guy blew a call which on reflection I'm sure he'd like to have back. Sue him for being human. Its not like we weren't going to see Hicks again, when would folks prefer to see him at HFH for Cornell? Yale? In my view the failure - and our focus - falls on the league for not giving refs a basic tool to allow for review and correction of goal/no goal calls (video review). My .02.
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He is making a huge statement with this decision! Hicks will be on his best behavior-we have nothing to worry about!
He is making a huge statement with this decision! Hicks will be on his best behavior-we have nothing to worry about!
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A well said 2¢-let's see how he does in a non conference game. Hope he has a good game and goes unnoticed. And certainly would rather have him now that for several league games. With this being a NHL Network game he just might surprise us with his performance.
I'm having trouble getting riled up about this. The guy blew a call which on reflection I'm sure he'd like to have back. Sue him for being human. Its not like we weren't going to see Hicks again, when would folks prefer to see him at HFH for Cornell? Yale? In my view the failure - and our focus - falls on the league for not giving refs a basic tool to allow for review and correction of goal/no goal calls (video review). My .02.
A well said 2¢-let's see how he does in a non conference game. Hope he has a good game and goes unnoticed. And certainly would rather have him now that for several league games. With this being a NHL Network game he just might surprise us with his performance.
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He blew two calls. This year and the year before at Union. This is a high profile game for the league because it is being televised on NHL Network and God forbid he blows another one and it gets ugly (certainly not advocating it and SA is too much of a pro). I have seen no remorse from the league on this entire affair and one of the things that I think bothered SA was that Hicks never explained his call to him that night. I'm sure you were there and remember Hicks skates to the corner and doesn't say a word to our great Coach. Even when the call was being made he just blew the whistle, no consult or nothing with his other colleagues. Unlike the call at the Sat game in the last second where they got together. You know me Wicked, I'm all about moving on Still too fresh in my mind, not fair to SA or Hicks for that matter. I would not have him do another RPI game the rest of the year if I was Paul Stewart. BTW- that was a good .2 on your part just beg to differ.
I'm having trouble getting riled up about this. The guy blew a call which on reflection I'm sure he'd like to have back. Sue him for being human. Its not like we weren't going to see Hicks again, when would folks prefer to see him at HFH for Cornell? Yale? In my view the failure - and our focus - falls on the league for not giving refs a basic tool to allow for review and correction of goal/no goal calls (video review). My .02.
He blew two calls. This year and the year before at Union. This is a high profile game for the league because it is being televised on NHL Network and God forbid he blows another one and it gets ugly (certainly not advocating it and SA is too much of a pro). I have seen no remorse from the league on this entire affair and one of the things that I think bothered SA was that Hicks never explained his call to him that night. I'm sure you were there and remember Hicks skates to the corner and doesn't say a word to our great Coach. Even when the call was being made he just blew the whistle, no consult or nothing with his other colleagues. Unlike the call at the Sat game in the last second where they got together. You know me Wicked, I'm all about moving on
Still too fresh in my mind, not fair to SA or Hicks for that matter. I would not have him do another RPI game the rest of the year if I was Paul Stewart. BTW- that was a good .2 on your part just beg to differ.
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We can hope.
We can hope.
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Can't disagree much. But would add that my main point about video review would take the "numb nuts" factor out of these types of calls.
He blew two calls. This year and the year before at Union. This is a high profile game for the league because it is being televised on NHL Network and God forbid he blows another one and it gets ugly (certainly not advocating it and SA is too much of a pro). I have seen no remorse fromr the league on this entire affair and one of the things that I think bothered SA was that Hicks never explained his call to him that night. I'm sure you were there and remember Hicks skates to the corner and doesn't say a word to our great Coach. Even when the call was being made he just blew the whistle, no consult or nothing with his other colleagues. Unlike the call at the Sat game in the last second where they got together. You know me Wicked, I'm all about moving on
Can't disagree much. But would add that my main point about video review would take the "numb nuts" factor out of these types of calls.
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See this smacks of the pervebial ECAC make up call. I hate when it happens to us. I hear your sentiment but they should not have to "make up" calls. IMO, I would point you to a quote by Tom Reale regarding the Union debacle, " These "makeup" and "even-up" calls compound previous mistakes made by the referees. Nobody's perfect, but assuming that the referees are unbiased (and they almost certainly are), bad calls are going to go both ways, even at the highest levels. When referees decide to try and pay back the team that got screwed, it only gets worse."
Source - http://www.withoutapeer.com/2010/11/just-get-it-right-not-quite.html
BTW- Tom is quickly becoming the best hockey writer in the area and maybe the country.
See this smacks of the pervebial ECAC make up call. I hate when it happens to us. I hear your sentiment but they should not have to "make up" calls. IMO, I would point you to a quote by Tom Reale regarding the Union debacle, " These "makeup" and "even-up" calls compound previous mistakes made by the referees. Nobody's perfect, but assuming that the referees are unbiased (and they almost certainly are), bad calls are going to go both ways, even at the highest levels. When referees decide to try and pay back the team that got screwed, it only gets worse."
Source - http://www.withoutapeer.com/2010/11/just-get-it-right-not-quite.html
BTW- Tom is quickly becoming the best hockey writer in the area and maybe the country.
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Video review will be much welcomed.
Video review will be much welcomed.
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