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RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

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I know that the game is played on the ice, but if you have to block 45 shots, that means the other team had the puck and the opportunity to attempt 45 shots. That's a lot.

Lug: That's correct of course. but the way he was playing if 45 more got through it just would have meant his save percentage would have been off the scale. if i had my way, i would have wished we had blocked about 36 more. I love when our goalie can take a night off and see as little rubber as possible. I remember some games way back int he mid eighties when teams got very through on us and we seemed to do very well those years.;)
 
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I know that the game is played on the ice, but if you have to block 45 shots, that means the other team had the puck and the opportunity to attempt 45 shots. That's a lot.

In the home game against Yale last year (a 4-1 loss) I was talking with Kurt Stutt. He mentioned to me that he couldn't recall the last time he saw an RPI player diving on the ice to block a shot, something the Yale players were doing a lot of that night. While of course it was a bit of an exaggeration, his point was clear; the team didn't want to make the sacrifice to win. Yale would likely have beaten us if they hadn't been diving to block shots and making all the hustle plays, but that's what the best teams do, they out work you.

What RPI did yesterday I haven't seen since the second half of the 2012-'13 season. They out worked and willed BC. You can look at the shots and see that BC out shot us and "deserved" to win based on the percentages, but that isn't what should be the take away from this game. This team bought into the fact that if they just tried to beat BC based on skill alone, they weren't going to have much of a chance. Give me a team that showed the guts that RPI did yesterday over any of our other teams the last two years any day.

The key now is for the team to understand and buy into playing like this regardless of who they're playing. If this team goes to Alaska and just tries to beat these Alaskan teams with skill, plays like the RPI team we've become used to recently, then the win against BC has less meaning to me. But if they play with that purpose again this weekend, then good things can only be ahead.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

I know that the game is played on the ice, but if you have to block 45 shots, that means the other team had the puck and the opportunity to attempt 45 shots. That's a lot.

Boston College is better than we are. Duh. If you're going to freak out about this, I'd find that at least as annoying as the folks that don't seem to come around here except for when the team's losing to biatch about Appert. This is like the inverse of that.

The best team doesn't always win, because sometimes the inferior team finds ways to frustrate their game plan. Like blocking 45 shots.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

I know that the game is played on the ice, but if you have to block 45 shots, that means the other team had the puck and the opportunity to attempt 45 shots. That's a lot.

If you see that many "shots", whether they go down in the book as shots, if they're blocked, or even if you were to consider the "off target" metric used in soccer (hitting the post doesn't count as a shot, for the uninitiated), you could theoretically sum up the game by stating that BC ran into a brick wall, and RPI was able to successfully counter. That's going to happen in any sort of sport that involves an infrequently achieved goal, and is precisely the strategy of a park-the-bus team. To be fair, RPI took 28 shots, in accordance with CHS. I wasn't counting how many additional "shots" were blocked or didn't hit the target, but if it didn't come to more than half of BC's total, we obviously tried to park the bus, just like when we played Michigan in the GLI in 2009, or Colgate a few years ago when Diebold was a freshman.

There are still plenty of questions to be answered on the other side of the blue line. Sure, Tironese is a welcome addition, but are we going to see any further step-up? It's tough to win a championship by parking the bus, regardless of what any Cornell fan will tell you. ;) We need to be strong all around, because the D could have an off night, and you'd much be able, in those situations, to switch to a controlling style of play and let the O shine.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

RPI sweeps the ECAC awards, as Bourbonnais, Tironese, and Kasdorf win POTW, ROTW, and GOTW, respectively!

I don't want people to interpret my previous posts as being down on the team, I was just trying to say that if we shore up some the possession issue, we could actually make some noise this year.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

RPI sweeps the ECAC awards, as Bourbonnais, Tironese, and Kasdorf win POTW, ROTW, and GOTW, respectively!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trio from <a href="https://twitter.com/RPIAthletics">@RPIAthletics</a> sweeps <a href="https://twitter.com/ECACHOCKEYMWD1">@ECACHOCKEYMWD1</a> weekly men's awards -<a href="http://t.co/PddzuVR7kl">http://t.co/PddzuVR7kl</a> <a href="http://t.co/fsWPjl8Y7m">pic.twitter.com/fsWPjl8Y7m</a></p>— ECAC HOCKEY (@ECACHOCKEYMWD1) <a href="https://twitter.com/ECACHOCKEYMWD1/status/653956275357749248">October 13, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:)
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

How bout this boys?

http://www.uscho.com/ecac-blog/2015/10/12/what-we-learned-on-ecac-hockeys-first-full-weekend/

No mention of the Tute taking down #1. What???? I wonder if the bias that exists in the league office against us filters down to the beat guys. Just sayin. At least Eddie Weaver is back!!!!!!

If people are going to mention that one loss does not a season make, then the same applies in the other direction. We won one game. Against a team ranked in accordance with a poll that, at this time of year, is completely meaningless. We were also shut out in another game. That makes us 1-1-0 going into Alaska. Doesn't tell us much. If the team starts to put forth the effort they displayed on Sunday on a consistent basis, then we'll have some good news to talk about. Until then, the questions we have about the team this year have yet to be answered, especially when you also take this past Friday's entire game into account.

Spin this reply however you want; it doesn't change the reality of needing more of a sample to be able to judge this team. Oh, and if you want butt-kissing when it comes to that one win, there are plenty of other sources that are able to give it to you, including on a national scope.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

RPI sweeps the ECAC awards, as Bourbonnais, Tironese, and Kasdorf win POTW, ROTW, and GOTW, respectively!

I don't want people to interpret my previous posts as being down on the team, I was just trying to say that if we shore up some the possession issue, we could actually make some noise this year.

People will spin whatever anyone says in accordance to whatever agenda they wish to follow. There's nothing wrong with both praise and critique, as it means you're looking at the situation with an open mind. Are there things that work? Yes. Are there things that need to improve? Yes. It's important to ensure that both are able to come out in discussion, though.
 
I don't want people to interpret my previous posts as being down on the team, I was just trying to say that if we shore up some the possession issue, we could actually make some noise this year.

Lugnut,
My post was not meant to be taking your post to mean that you're down on the team. You brought up valid questions about how we played and areas to improve. I was just looking at how blocking a lot of shots isn't a bad thing when you look at it from a team's desire to win.

As others have said, we played two very good teams this first weekend and came out with a win and a loss. There are positive and negatives to take from these results. It's all about how this team improves those negative areas while maintaining the positive areas.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

Lugnut,
My post was not meant to be taking your post to mean that you're down on the team. You brought up valid questions about how we played and areas to improve. I was just looking at how blocking a lot of shots isn't a bad thing when you look at it from a team's desire to win.

As others have said, we played two very good teams this first weekend and came out with a win and a loss. There are positive and negatives to take from these results. It's all about how this team improves those negative areas while maintaining the positive areas.

If anything, blocking shots is a very good thing. Sure, you'd like to be able to close down lanes and force your opponent into a situation where they have to make the pass instead of shooting. Short of that, blocking the shot is the next best thing, especially if your opponent is "trigger happy" like both of our opponents seemed to be. The puck's not getting near either the goal or "the house" (used in a RPI-TV cast a while back, describes prime shooting areas in front of the goal), and depending on how you block, may provide an opportunity for a zone clear or a counter-attack. Even better, if you're blocking a lot of shots, or your keeper is a brick wall, that's going to frustrate your opposition into desperation attempts, as they'll begin to believe that their process for shooting and scoring just isn't working. That's what we started seeing from BC in the third period, even though they were able to get one through, the last few minutes saw failed desperation attempts.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

I'm 48 Doc, actually my dad took me when I was 5. So I'm on my 43rd yr. No statue, you know how humble I am. Not sure, I will have to get kitchen pass from the Mrs. Would you please send mu luv to Jenny.

AspyDad, we should connect for a cocktail, our stories sound similar. Except for the humble part. :D
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

If anything, blocking shots is a very good thing. Sure, you'd like to be able to close down lanes and force your opponent into a situation where they have to make the pass instead of shooting. Short of that, blocking the shot is the next best thing, especially if your opponent is "trigger happy" like both of our opponents seemed to be. The puck's not getting near either the goal or "the house" (used in a RPI-TV cast a while back, describes prime shooting areas in front of the goal), and depending on how you block, may provide an opportunity for a zone clear or a counter-attack. Even better, if you're blocking a lot of shots, or your keeper is a brick wall, that's going to frustrate your opposition into desperation attempts, as they'll begin to believe that their process for shooting and scoring just isn't working. That's what we started seeing from BC in the third period, even though they were able to get one through, the last few minutes saw failed desperation attempts.

I agree that blocking shots is a good thing, assuming that we don't get injured in the process.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

I agree that blocking shots is a good thing, assuming that we don't get injured in the process.

Things are certainly different these days, as players are wearing essentially cover-all padding. There's always going to be that risk, but it seems to be more hurt than injured. It's painful to keep going after blocking a shot (as we saw from Chris Bradley at the end of the last game), but it'd take a lot more to injure.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

Things are certainly different these days, as players are wearing essentially cover-all padding. There's always going to be that risk, but it seems to be more hurt than injured. It's painful to keep going after blocking a shot (as we saw from Chris Bradley at the end of the last game), but it'd take a lot more to injure.

We always manage to get injuries.
 
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