RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

[lugnut92]

Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

Fridgen had the same problem with faceoffs in the 1995 season. Devoted significant practice time to faceoffs before the ecac semi final against Colgate. I think RPI won over 60% of the faceoffs beat colgate and princeton in the finals. No reason not to invite Oates up for an honorary degree or something and have him drop by a practice.

People keep suggesting getting Oates to help. It is possible that he doesn't want to come back and give a hand. It's not like he's obligated to do so.

 

[Waite21]

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For the football fans - RPI dug themselves a 24-point hole in the first half today up in Canton and a second-half comeback fell short, as they lost to St. Lawrence, 24-21. A missed field goal in the first quarter ultimately proved very costly.

St. Lawrence was the preseason favorite to win the Liberty League and their chances look stronger after Hobart's loss to Springfield today.

 

[DrDemento]

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All legitimate points, DrD. Still, this is one game, from a banged up team, on the road against a very good team. Hard as it is to watch, let's give this squad a chance to get healthy and play 8 or 10 games before we make a judgement on the season. Face offs and special teams aside, staying healthy has seemed to be the biggest challenge the past 3-4 years. In August we thought we had 16 solid forwards. Last night only 11 were able to answer the bell. You have to believe/ hope that everything improves when even a couple of those guys return.

J: In no way do i think one game makes the season and if I haven't given up in 53 years i won't start now. I just have seen the same defects for about 10 years. they are fundamentals that are either done wrong or not done at all. I really think SA is a nice guy. But i come from the Leo Durocher school of thought about nice guys finishing last. He could be a super head coach, but the style of play we most often use, the offensive play especially on the power play, the lack of defensive coordination, and most of all, the horrible face off numbers are all things that could be and should be worked on and taught. 9 recruiting classes and how often do we win more than 50% of important faceoffs? And 16 forwards becoming 11 forwards before our first real game? I cannot give you numbers but it just seems like we lose more players during the week in practice than we do on game nights.
I believe strongly in these kids and very support this team and will all year. But doing the same things over and over again, with each new recruiting class, it just seems to be more of the story.

 

[DrDemento]

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JM: You obviously had a better view of the ice than I did trying to follow the UML video feed(which does not hold a candle to RPI TV) and the WRPI audio. But we had some similar thoughts. Kasdorf was lights out great and if given a bit more support could have held the score down by one or two more. I only felt he might have reacted a tad faster to the wrap around. I have said all along this team has a decent talent level. I just feel the problems lie elsewhere. the defense does not communicate well or cover for each other. The forwards are not seeing the ice and feeling where their linemates are. The power play, well, it is the power play we have gotten used to seeing. I just wonder, how different many of the games of the past few years and the one last night could have been if we could only win 50% of the deep faceoffs (the ones that really matter) and what a difference a power play that could score even 15%+ could add. you are 100% correct in that UML is very good and that we did a lot of good things out there.

 

[rvd5star69]

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Guys are always hurt. Almost every guy I talked to doesn't like the new trainer. Second year now and we always have most injuries in ncaa on and off ice

 

[DrDemento]

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Guys are always hurt. Almost every guy I talked to doesn't like the new trainer. Second year now and we always have most injuries in ncaa on and off ice

When this sort of thing happens once, you do not question it. But when it happens every year, you have to think the system or those in charge of insuring the health of our boys have to make some changes.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Oh that's excellent, thanks!

And RPI-TV is indeed showing it; the event wasn't up until now. It's a free watch.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Guys are always hurt. Almost every guy I talked to doesn't like the new trainer. Second year now and we always have most injuries in ncaa on and off ice

You know, this really doesn't surprise me in the least. I thought Patenaude's been at RPI a little longer (unless she's still associate and wasn't promoted when Chris Thompson left and there's someone different). There's always going to be a fine line between being a complainy-pants about training and finding that your regiment is providing serious injury, and the line shifts closer to the latter when you're dealing with what is still essentially youth players. Seems we've been trying to solve conditioning issues for the longest time, especially when Appert's been bringing in the big gun teams for us to play instead of the AHC whipping boys we used to see, and it may be causing more harm than good.

 

[DrDemento]

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We do not often get to say this-we just beat the number 1 ranked team. Feels pretty darn good to say. Now I hope BC wins almost all of their remaining games. Someone please fill me in on the strength of our 2 opponents for next week. A lot of travel and hopefully we can get out there with extra time to adapt to the time change and get our legs back after a long flight.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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We do not often get to say this-we just beat the number 1 ranked team. Feels pretty darn good to say. Now I hope BC wins almost all of their remaining games. Someone please fill me in on the strength of our 2 opponents for next week. A lot of travel and hopefully we can get out there with extra time to adapt to the time change and get our legs back after a long flight.

UAA split, UA_ lost both. Their opponents were SCSU and ASU; UAA needed overtime to beat ASU.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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We do not often get to say this-we just beat the number 1 ranked team. Feels pretty darn good to say. Now I hope BC wins almost all of their remaining games. Someone please fill me in on the strength of our 2 opponents for next week. A lot of travel and hopefully we can get out there with extra time to adapt to the time change and get our legs back after a long flight.

Interesting that the Fairbanks Ice Dogs (Todd Burgess) are off next weekend. What are the odds that he will be at our games?

 

[jericho]

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Watched BC play Army last night (nice to see Buccigross drop the ceremonial puck as well as a very large BC crowd). While BC is a great team and the final outcome may never have been in doubt, Army played BC relatively even through the first period by purely out hustling BC and playing smart, a trait the Cadets of late are known for. I think RPI can give BC a good game if RPI can do three things well, out hustle BC, protect Kasdorf by keeping BC from the front of the net, and not taking bad penalties. RPI will not out talent BC. By early in the second period last night BC, in what was a tight game, just kept crashing the net and wearing down the Cadets and their goalie who played well despite the final score (5-1). Army, in their effort to protect their goalie, started taking one bad penalty after another after the whistle. The end result was the BC talent just took over and that was that.

RPI does not have the talent that BC has, but maybe, with better wheels and heart, and a smart strategy they could steal an early season game from the Eagles. It's a tall order but crazier things have happened.

I just read this after I got home from doing the game, but this is almost exactly what I said on air. Great job on the prediction.

 

[jstadts]

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Shot blocking by RPI was the difference imo. Kasdorf made some good saves no doubt but alot were right at his gut. Nice win!

 

[herbst20]

And RPI-TV is indeed showing it; the event wasn't up until now. It's a free watch.

Watched it via this link from Cedar Rapids. Good to see a firmer Rider in Bourbs play well!

 

[turk181]

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31-28 advantage RPI in FO. 1/4 on PP. These are the numbers we need to be successful. I agree with you jstadts, shot blocking was huge especially late byWood.

 

[DrDemento]

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Shot blocking by RPI was the difference imo. Kasdorf made some good saves no doubt but alot were right at his gut. Nice win!

i have no way to know or even keep count but it just seemed like we stopped a ton from getting through to Kasdorf yet he still managed something like 37 saves. i wonder what the total could have reached had we not put our bodies on the line? I have been saying for a long time that we the talent. Today we showed some of it and more importantly that we also have heart. hoping we do not come out of this with any injuries so SA can leave what is working alone and just be able to tweak a bit as bodies come back. This season is already fun.

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

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Congrats guys, great win!

 

[DrDemento]

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31-28 advantage RPI in FO. 1/4 on PP. These are the numbers we need to be successful. I agree with you jstadts, shot blocking was huge especially late byWood.

A state that has not been lost in the glow of the win. Many of those face offs were at crucial tiems deep in a zone. I wish they would just toss out the ones at center ice as they just mean so much less. ET (the alien?) seemed to be particularly on his game taking face offs. Shame the linesmen had no clue how to conduct a fair and decent drop of the puck. Will be anxious to hear and see the post game interview with our coach. I suspect he will tone down the excitement a bit (rightly so) and still point out that we have a lot of things to work on. But i will watch carefully for that little wry smile as he says all of that.

 

[turk181]

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FO breakdown (it’s wins & losses) Those are very good numbers for ET as a frosh........Rensselaer Faceoffs
## Players W L
11 Evan Tironese 9 10
17 Milos Bubela 8 7
7 Zach Schroeder 7 3
14 Riley Bourbonnais 3 2
12 Viktor Liljegren 2 3
27 Jake Wood 2 1
18 Travis Fulton 0 2
Totals 31 2

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

FO breakdown (it’s wins & losses) Those are very good numbers for ET as a frosh........Rensselaer Faceoffs
## Players W L
11 Evan Tironese 9 10
17 Milos Bubela 8 7
7 Zach Schroeder 7 3
14 Riley Bourbonnais 3 2
12 Viktor Liljegren 2 3
27 Jake Wood 2 1
18 Travis Fulton 0 2
Totals 31 2

Turk: Compared to Friday, that is like an entirely new world. But even more important is what faceoffs were won. During the crucial power plays against us we just did so much better than in past games. usually going unnoticed, it often makes the difference between a loss and a win and I think it did that today. thanks for posting the stats. Normally I just go with what I see and sense but sometimes i have those senior moments.