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RPI 2025 Off-Season: Help Is On the Way

The fact that he is currently training with NHLers in Toronto is a positive sign. Lang was cautious in his comments that it will be a process in building him up. Doc can weigh in on the medicine, but at this point the repair had been made -- I'd think the work now and moving forward is largely on continuing strengthening, range of motion and conditioning. I would note that Sutter Muzzatti is attempting a very similar return to form at N. Dame, following his hip injury.

Given the youth on our D corps, it's gonna be a baptism by fire in the first half of the season anyway....Jovanovic is a low risk addition with potential for big upside.
I'd also love to hear doc's take. Having hip surgery followed by atrophy sounds pretty serious, but I have no idea how the recovery works. He's been skating for about 9 months according to Lang, but I would assume it's quite a long path to regain all the strength and range of motion. And that's before you even factor in that he probably hasn't played with any contact yet. My guess is we will see him play at some point given he's skating well according to Mark Giordano with the NHLers.

When he makes his debut for his first game in probably 5 years, I hope they throw this kid in the starting lineup, get his parents down to Troy and give him a special moment to celebrate his strength and resilience to come back.
 
I'd also love to hear doc's take. Having hip surgery followed by atrophy sounds pretty serious, but I have no idea how the recovery works. He's been skating for about 9 months according to Lang, but I would assume it's quite a long path to regain all the strength and range of motion. And that's before you even factor in that he probably hasn't played with any contact yet. My guess is we will see him play at some point given he's skating well according to Mark Giordano with the NHLers.

When he makes his debut for his first game in probably 5 years, I hope they throw this kid in the starting lineup, get his parents down to Troy and give him a special moment to celebrate his strength and resilience to come back.
Agree. 9 months in, you certainly know what the issues are. Lang mentioned he was pretty impressed with progress he's been making --mentioning the video clips he's been getting. Between Giordano and the phys. therapist, they know what they are getting.... time will tell. As I said, low risk with big potential upside. I'll be rooting for him !
 
I was disappointed you didn't mention to him that you think Gorton stinks, but we'll remind him at the golf outing....always better in person of course. LOL
LOL touche, hope he proves me wrong of course. We have plenty of depth if I am right though. I'm very comfortable with how our 3rd and 4th lines will look but our overall offense will depend on how much offense the top 6 can give us.
 
I'd also love to hear doc's take. Having hip surgery followed by atrophy sounds pretty serious, but I have no idea how the recovery works. He's been skating for about 9 months according to Lang, but I would assume it's quite a long path to regain all the strength and range of motion. And that's before you even factor in that he probably hasn't played with any contact yet. My guess is we will see him play at some point given he's skating well according to Mark Giordano with the NHLers.

When he makes his debut for his first game in probably 5 years, I hope they throw this kid in the starting lineup, get his parents down to Troy and give him a special moment to celebrate his strength and resilience to come back.
If we were talking about a patient my age or Ralph's we would be happy to progress to walking with help or with a cane over this period of time. Probably might eventually be able to get back on a golf course as our only sport to participate at all. I am hoping that here we are talking about a big strong young kid who has worked hard at rehabilitation. Some positions in hockey depend more on certain abilities than others. From my own playing days (eons ago) defensive play and success necessitates rapid acceleration, quick changes of direction, strength on one's skates and ability to hold a position against other players. With boys simply getting bigger and stronger all the time, i would suspect hip strength, mobility, and full range of motion (remembering the hip is a ball and a socket surrounded by a host of ligaments, tendons and muscle) might take many months to regain and rebuild. If the atrophy described is limited to muscles then at his younger age all muscle mass can return. If any of the atrophy however is bony in nature, that is a totally different story. The hip socket has to be deep enough, protected enough and a perfect fit for the head of the femur so that it can withstand the substantial amount of pressure put on it not just by the act of skating, but resistant enough to the trauma it will be placed under when some 225 pounder slams it into the unforgiving boards.
Also, again hopefully, any and all problems were localized to the hip area. Weight bearing is done by the entire leg from the lower back, down through the hip and then the knee and below. The longer that a hip is questionable, the more we obviously alter how we transmit and transfer our weight through the lower leg and often times develop some related problems in the knee and below. We will not know how this all stands up until he is on the ice, skating at top speed and getting hit by some big boys with bad intentions. My guess? He might start off a bit tentative as he, himself, may not know what his capabilities are. But I think as each game and each shift proceeds, he will gain confidence and we might find that we have a real prize on defense!! Something we have not had in some time and something we have sorely needed.
I am not an orthopedic surgeon, and I don't pretend to play one on TV. But all my medical training and over 50 years of medical experience helps to add a little. Having played this sport when younger and having both knees and one shoulder operated upon because of it also gives me a little insight as to what recovery can entail. One last point, never under estimate the mental aspect of returning from injury. He has apparently been out of action for quite some time and I think we all should give him the chance to take as long as necessary to reach whatever his potential might be.
 
I wonder if he decided he didn't want to work for Lang, or Lang didn't want him.
Makes little difference in either case. Either he was not happy here or he was offered a bigger better deal. In any case, he is gone and we move on. I know nothing about our new coach but i love the speed at which he seems to be working. If he can do whatever is necessary to give us very good special teams and limit the turnovers in our own zone that we have been plagued with for many years, we are going to have a very nice season!!!
 
If we were talking about a patient my age or Ralph's we would be happy to progress to walking with help or with a cane over this period of time. Probably might eventually be able to get back on a golf course as our only sport to participate at all. I am hoping that here we are talking about a big strong young kid who has worked hard at rehabilitation. Some positions in hockey depend more on certain abilities than others. From my own playing days (eons ago) defensive play and success necessitates rapid acceleration, quick changes of direction, strength on one's skates and ability to hold a position against other players. With boys simply getting bigger and stronger all the time, i would suspect hip strength, mobility, and full range of motion (remembering the hip is a ball and a socket surrounded by a host of ligaments, tendons and muscle) might take many months to regain and rebuild. If the atrophy described is limited to muscles then at his younger age all muscle mass can return. If any of the atrophy however is bony in nature, that is a totally different story. The hip socket has to be deep enough, protected enough and a perfect fit for the head of the femur so that it can withstand the substantial amount of pressure put on it not just by the act of skating, but resistant enough to the trauma it will be placed under when some 225 pounder slams it into the unforgiving boards.
Also, again hopefully, any and all problems were localized to the hip area. Weight bearing is done by the entire leg from the lower back, down through the hip and then the knee and below. The longer that a hip is questionable, the more we obviously alter how we transmit and transfer our weight through the lower leg and often times develop some related problems in the knee and below. We will not know how this all stands up until he is on the ice, skating at top speed and getting hit by some big boys with bad intentions. My guess? He might start off a bit tentative as he, himself, may not know what his capabilities are. But I think as each game and each shift proceeds, he will gain confidence and we might find that we have a real prize on defense!! Something we have not had in some time and something we have sorely needed.
I am not an orthopedic surgeon, and I don't pretend to play one on TV. But all my medical training and over 50 years of medical experience helps to add a little. Having played this sport when younger and having both knees and one shoulder operated upon because of it also gives me a little insight as to what recovery can entail. One last point, never under estimate the mental aspect of returning from injury. He has apparently been out of action for quite some time and I think we all should give him the chance to take as long as necessary to reach whatever his potential might be.
Great insights Doc. As he is 9 months into his return to skating -- his physical therapist undoubtedly has a good grasp on where he's at in recovery. The fact that he's working out with pros and with Giordano makes me believe he is on the right track -- and Lang intimated that in his thoughts on the tape he's seen. But as you alluded to, until you get hammered into the boards in game action, you just don't know! I look forward to seeing his progress.
 
I wonder if he decided he didn't want to work for Lang, or Lang didn't want him.
You do have to wonder because the Mercyhurst situation looks like a complete train wreck. Their very long term head coach, Gotkin, is retiring after this season. The announced successor is his three season (all bad) assistant. Prior to that the guy was a DIII assistant. Not promising.
 
You do have to wonder because the Mercyhurst situation looks like a complete train wreck. Their very long term head coach, Gotkin, is retiring after this season. The announced successor is his three season (all bad) assistant. Prior to that the guy was a DIII assistant. Not promising.
That agrees with my thoughts.
 
Great insights Doc. As he is 9 months into his return to skating -- his physical therapist undoubtedly has a good grasp on where he's at in recovery. The fact that he's working out with pros and with Giordano makes me believe he is on the right track -- and Lang intimated that in his thoughts on the tape he's seen. But as you alluded to, until you get hammered into the boards in game action, you just don't know! I look forward to seeing his progress.
Would be helpful to know some information about what type of injury we are talking about. I have my suspicions about this being some sort of impingement perhaps caused by a traumatic episode but we might actually have a situation where there was some congenital predisposition to injury. But as long as he gets back to his potential, probably nothing else matters. I very much look forward to seeing him in the cherry and white!!!
 
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