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RPI 2022-23: Return of the Schmidt and the Fans

Before we get all giddy let's remember if we don't split this weekend and assuming we don't win the Natty we will lose 20 games this year...Let that sink in !!!
 
Before we get all giddy let's remember if we don't split this weekend and assuming we don't win the Natty we will lose 20 games this year...Let that sink in !!!

It's great to hear Marty is involved; so for sure he can't be overjoyed by this season. Let's put it into perspective, I believe Union is a good comparable. Union was shut down for Covid like us. They have a new coach and lost their best players, one is Qpacs leading scorer and another at Cornell. Yet they are ahead of us and outscored us 13-2 this season.
 
Man, we really can't even enjoy a really nice freakout win without immediately going back into the negativity huh? It hasn't been a good season, but we played well this weekend and should have swept if not for refs and unlucky bounces. Let's hope for a strong finish and a playoff win in the first round.

It's great to hear Marty is involved; so for sure he can't be overjoyed by this season. Let's put it into perspective, I believe Union is a good comparable. Union was shut down for Covid like us. They have a new coach and lost their best players, one is Qpacs leading scorer and another at Cornell. Yet they are ahead of us and outscored us 13-2 this season.

I don't agree. There is no good comparable to us. Union cancelled their season but they many did important things that RPI did not. 1) They were allowed to practice the entire year and use all the facilities while they were off. 2) They didn't refuse to guarantee the 2021-22 in the Spring of 2021. 3) They allowed fans in the building all of last season.

Additionally, the only important players they lost over covid were this spring with Graf, Anhorn and Seger. RPI by comparison lost Savory, Ashbrook, Babichuk, Ferner, Linden, Leppanen, Johnson, Kjellberg and Dubinsky. Don't really agree with that comparison either.
 
As some here know, my brother ('80) was a big RPI hockey fan - following the program closely up until the day he was killed in Afghanistan. When we saw the schedule and realized the BRFO would fall on his 64th birthday, we knew we had to go. It's where he would have been. We had his wife, kids and another half-dozen friends and family together for a wonderful dinner at the successor to the Notty Pine, Zotto's the Pine on Hoosick St. Then we went to the Armory to see the plaque RPI dedicated to him (thanks to ROTC administrator Donna Carr for taking the time to meet with us on a Saturday evening and letting us into the offices) and followed it up by watching the best effort I've seen from the boys this season. It was the kind of evening that Harry would have found just about perfect. Now if the team can carry the momentum forward to the playoffs.............

So sorry to read about the loss of your brother, and thank you for his service and your sacrifice. Sounds like you honored his memory in a wonderful way, and the boys in red with the W was a bonus. I hope they can carry the momentum going forward as well! Win, lose or draw - I always love watching these student athletes compete and while its been too long since I've been able to see them in Placid, I will always be rooting for the 'Neers! Let's go RED!
 
On Thursday, Hannah Price from the Women's team was named a finalist for the 2023 Hockey Humanitarian Award.
 
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I'm hoping somebody more familiar with the ECAC's tiebreaker system than I am can answer this.

As of the close of play on Feb. 18, Princeton is in seventh place, three points ahead of both RPI and Union, who are tied for eighth.

Next weekend, RPI and Union will both play Princeton and Quinnipiac.

Of course, there are a number of possibilities, but two of the possibilities are that: (1) RPI and Union will both lose both games in regulation, leaving RPI and Union tied for eighth place (assuming neither Yale nor Brown pull a couple of upsets against Cornell and Colgate), and (2) RPI and Union both lose to Quinnipiac but both beat Princeton in regulation, leaving RPI, Princeton, and Union in a three-way tie for seventh, eighth, and ninth.

How would the tiebreakers work in those two scenarios?
 
Both scenarios work in RPI’s favor. In #1, RPI would have the tie-breaker based on 8 wins compared to 7 by Union. In #2, all 3 teams would have split their head to head matchups so the second tie-breaker is again total wins. RPI would have 9 wins and Princeton and Union would have 8 wins which would go to the third tie-breaker, which would be total points scored against the Top 4 teams. Since there is currently a tie for fourth, until the Top 4 teams are decided it’s hard to tell who would finish 8th.
 
We can finish anywhere from 6th to 11th as of now. An important note: we currently hold the tiebreaker over Union and if we beat Princeton in regulation, we hold that tiebreaker as well.

Clinching scenarios (along with the simplest route to that scenario):

6th - Win both games in regulation, Clarkson loses both games in regulation (we do not hold the tiebreaker, so this is the only way)

7th - Greater than or equal points to Union on the weekend, (beat Princeton in regulation and equal their points Saturday) or (beat Princeton in OT and beat Quinnipiac in regulation and Union beats Princeton)
Simplest route: Beat Princeton in regulation, Union loses to Quinnipiac in regulation, Union beats Princeton in regulation

8th - Greater than or equal points to Union on the weekend
Simplest route: Beat Princeton in regulation, Union loses to Quinnipiac in regulation

9th and 10th - Four points less than Yale on the weekend, three points less than Brown on the weekend
Simplest route: Beat Princeton in regulation
 
Should be noted that I don't see us having any shot at beating Qpac, so Friday is by far the biggest game of the season.
 
We can finish anywhere from 6th to 11th as of now. An important note: we currently hold the tiebreaker over Union and if we beat Princeton in regulation, we hold that tiebreaker as well.

Clinching scenarios (along with the simplest route to that scenario):

6th - Win both games in regulation, Clarkson loses both games in regulation (we do not hold the tiebreaker, so this is the only way)

7th - Greater than or equal points to Union on the weekend, (beat Princeton in regulation and equal their points Saturday) or (beat Princeton in OT and beat Quinnipiac in regulation and Union beats Princeton)
Simplest route: Beat Princeton in regulation, Union loses to Quinnipiac in regulation, Union beats Princeton in regulation

8th - Greater than or equal points to Union on the weekend
Simplest route: Beat Princeton in regulation, Union loses to Quinnipiac in regulation

9th and 10th - Four points less than Yale on the weekend, three points less than Brown on the weekend
Simplest route: Beat Princeton in regulation

Thank you for the clear and concise summary.
 
Goal yesterday by recent commit Dovar Tinling https://twitter.com/PentictonVees/st...97446565986305. We certainly can use that now, but I am concerned that he will be outmuscled in college. I wonder if that was his problem in UVM.

UVM brought him to school way too young when he was 17 years old. They were also a very bad team the two years he was there. He's not really undersized for the college level at 5'11" and 185 LBs, but he's not big either. I wouldn't be too worried about it unless we see issues with it in Troy
 
Goal yesterday by recent commit Dovar Tinling https://twitter.com/PentictonVees/st...97446565986305. We certainly can use that now, but I am concerned that he will be outmuscled in college. I wonder if that was his problem in UVM.

Note that he positioned himself to cut across above the crease and beyond poke-check range. That's a goal scorer's move. Many players get too deep and cut across the top of the crease against which every goalie is trained to focus on dispossessing the puck before the forward can create a viable shot. If young Mr. Muzzati learns to use his size and leverage to turn the corner a split-second earlier he'll have several extra goals per season.
 
As expected the odds makers have the Princeton game on Friday as flat even. We are a 2 goal underdog to QU on Saturday. Obviously we need a regulation win Friday but perhaps this would have been moot had we had the better results against Yale and Brown that was expected. Getting home ice for the first round is just about mandatory for us but getting 7th would help us so much more.
 
UVM brought him to school way too young when he was 17 years old. They were also a very bad team the two years he was there. He's not really undersized for the college level at 5'11" and 185 LBs, but he's not big either. I wouldn't be too worried about it unless we see issues with it in Troy

I realize that that height and weight is fine, but I wonder if the weight is accurate based upon how he looks.
 
I realize that that height and weight is fine, but I wonder if the weight is accurate based upon how he looks.

Important point you raise. That number could be inaccurate. I know I look a lot younger than my stated age and I have lied about my weight (even to myself) for years!
 
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