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RPI 2020 Off-season Overtime: In Memory of Turk181

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sezenack said:
RPI is not currently practicing. The ice isn't down and the institute hasn't approved their return to practice plan for god knows what reason
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No one wants a hockey season more than I do, but school districts across the country are going back to remote learning. We are at the beginning of a new surge of virus infections. It is not a hoax and it is not turning a corner. SJ is doing her job. Trying to keep students safe.
I wonder what the comments would be if there was an outbreak on the team.
Stay healthy and be around for when a season finally does get underway.
 
NAFTA123 said:
Anyone else concerned about the season not happening? Seems SJ has the entire student body at bay and not allowing access to any facilities. Certainly the concern of an outbreak has to be a non factor given there has been 55K plus tests since August and only 8 positives, zero hospilizations. From my research via the net, RPI appears to one of the few hockey schools or only school, with no access to weight room and/or on campus ice and such strict guidelines such as two students/one bathroom. (I understand there was mechanical issues at Fieldhouse, but little effort from top to get repairs done in a timely manner.) Thus, the player development with coaches is zero. Sophes are at home training on their own, others have decided to spend semester at home and train. Can't imagine the mental toll this is having on students/athletes. Hearing rumors that players in Troy cannot even access any gear/sticks and they are having to skate away from campus at their own expense. Seems a bit odd to me, but appears little effort from SJ to allow some sort of return to practice/play for hockey or any other athlete in Troy.

No word from our AD regarding potential schedule/ECAC play, no announcement of captains etc leads me to believe the the dictatorship from the top is in full force.

I may be way odd base here, but if SJ pulls plug on an RPI season, the program will suffer in many areas for a very long time.

Thoughts??
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Really am of the opinion that if they do not put their sports entertainment product out for an entire academic cycle they will become utterly irrelevant in the local sports scene. Especially since everyone else around here (Siena, U Albany and Union) apparently are putting their product out complete with regular updates to their fan bases. It is already a known quantity that Union is playing Army on December 28 based on Army already releasing their schedule. Were we supposedly going to play Army this year??? Well, we are not!!!

Hopefully, the regime will wake up before it's too late. Eventually even the Big 10 and Pac 12 woke up when they realized the consequences of their actions would result in utter long term irrelevance, at least in terms of Power 5 conferences.

Of course, this assumes the regime even remotely cares to begin with. Pretty sure they do not. Sure glad I am not an athletics person working for these people these days.
 
Wicked Slappaahs said:
I viewed the ticket survey/solicitation from Sachi as a positive -- at least that they were allowing them to gauge interest. To my knowledge all of the ECAC teams including the Ivies are now skating /practicing --at least in l groups -- so if in fact RPI is not skating at all at HFH, that would be disappointing.
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Ordinarily that would be viewed as a positive. However, be that as it may, a very similar solicitation was put out to the two or three dozen football season ticket holders about the beginning of the summer. On June 30 football was cancelled. Meant nothing then. No idea if it means anything now.
 
engineerhockeyfan said:
No one wants a hockey season more than I do, but school districts across the country are going back to remote learning. We are at the beginning of a new surge of virus infections. It is not a hoax and it is not turning a corner. SJ is doing her job. Trying to keep students safe.
I wonder what the comments would be if there was an outbreak on the team.
Stay healthy and be around for when a season finally does get underway.
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Stay out of grocery stores, Wal-Mart, avoid church, etc? No, take the necessary precautions to remain as safe as possible. I am sure there has been many discussions and plans for student-athlete safety presented, but SJ apparently not allowing any sort of "life back to normal" scenarios. Look at the campus tests/results. I'd say the students/athletes are doing their part. Would there be a potential positive case on the RPI hockey team at some point? Quite possible, but at least give the kids a chance to see if a return to practice/play plan can work. And, in case of an "outbreak on the team" a very high chance of a speedy and full recovery based on the age of the student athlete.

College athletics all over the region and the country have allowed some sort of small group workouts/return to practice/play plan etc. No reason this can't happen at RPI. SJ wants groups no larger than 9 roaming/hanging out together in general on/off campus, but yet won't allow a small group to have a supervised work out with RPI athletic trainers/staff.
 
NAFTA123 said:
Stay out of grocery stores, Wal-Mart, avoid church, etc? No, take the necessary precautions to remain as safe as possible. I am sure there has been many discussions and plans for student-athlete safety presented, but SJ apparently not allowing any sort of "life back to normal" scenarios. Look at the campus tests/results. I'd say the students/athletes are doing their part. Would there be a potential positive case on the RPI hockey team at some point? Quite possible, but at least give the kids a chance to see if a return to practice/play plan can work. And, in case of an "outbreak on the team" a very high chance of a speedy and full recovery based on the age of the student athlete.

College athletics all over the region and the country have allowed some sort of small group workouts/return to practice/play plan etc. No reason this can't happen at RPI. SJ wants groups no larger than 9 roaming/hanging out together in general on/off campus, but yet won't allow a small group to have a supervised work out with RPI athletic trainers/staff.
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Absolutely true. There's no such thing as zero risk. RPI continues to prove everyday that they're doing things the right way -- given their extremely low positivity rate and on-campus testing which they can turn around very quickly. UAlbany and Siena hoops are holding full squad (25) workouts this week.... Bottom line is there isn't any reasonable reason why on-ice small group workouts can't be happening.
 
Wicked Slappaahs said:
Absolutely true. There's no such thing as zero risk. RPI continues to prove everyday that they're doing things the right way -- given their extremely low positivity rate and on-campus testing which they can turn around very quickly. UAlbany and Siena hoops are holding full squad (25) workouts this week.... Bottom line is there isn't any reasonable reason why on-ice small group workouts can't be happening.
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Lots of people in charge keep claiming they are following the science - but their decisions are often not based on what the science has shown. Statistics are quoted everywhere about number of cases and numbers of deaths but you have to search to find a breakdown of the numbers as to age and underlying health status. Many of the deaths reported are actually people who died with COVID but not because of it. A fairly substantial numbers of deaths early in the game were diagnoses made before we had any accurate tests and were often just guess work. I am not an infectious disease expert but 50+ years of medical practice does give one a rather decent perspective on things. Those over 70 (like myself) are at an increased risk and especially with any underlying process going on. We need to be protected (and we should avoid any unnecessary contacts and obey the mask and social distancing ideals). Those younger with underlying conditions likewise. But someone tell me why healthy people under age 40 need to wear hazmat suits for protection against something that has such a low mortality rate for them that they stand a better chance of falling in the bathtub and dying? i do not claim to know all the answers but if the pundits in charge are waiting for something like zero cases anywhere, then we will be waiting a long time indeed. Even with influenza vaccines being in use almost universally in this country for 50+ years, we still see millions of positive cases per year and an average of 40,000 deaths (and a large percentage are young people and young children and infants). Rant over.
PS-I have no clue what starting the hockey season will bring, but I think no one else does either.
 
In honor of Jaden Mirek, today is 24 October 2020. There are 34 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 27 November 2020 (day after Thanksgiving) for the start of next season.
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rpi82 said:
OK, I admit it. 5 minutes into the show I couldn't take it any more and jumped to the end.
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I'll whiten this in case anyone else will watch the show.

I didn't know that Amos Eaton was a cofounder of RPI. I thought that he was one of the first Profs. Then again, it certainly wasn't George Low although he is ancient history to current students. I suspect that if Perry had demanded that all responses were in the form of questions, everyone would have been negative.

It might be my age, but it didn't seem that the questions progressed in difficulty as one progressed down a column. I haven't watched Jeopardy in decades, but isn't the second round for twice as much "money" as the first?
 
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I get people want things to return to normal and other places are resuming some level of activity. But I also get we are headed into what looks like a very rough period in the pandemic. The reality is we don’t know what is going to happen here. Maintaining the status quo would seem to be a pretty reasonable approach. What New York has done has been pretty successful. I wouldn’t want to be the person who says “What the heck. It looks safe to go furth
 
*further. I would not want to be in Cuomi or SAJ’s shoes right now. Whatever you do is a roll of the dice and when it could result in some pretty bad outcomes, I guess I would err on the side of caution. RPI has made it this far, why tempt fate?
 
Ralph Baer said:
Don't we have at least some clue from the junior hockey leagues?
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was specifically talking about the COVID virus and any spread attendant to opening the season. Not thinking about player performance at this stage at all as it is far too premature. Might start thinking about that once we know in fact aht a season will be played.
 
25+years said:
I get people want things to return to normal and other places are resuming some level of activity. But I also get we are headed into what looks like a very rough period in the pandemic. The reality is we don’t know what is going to happen here. Maintaining the status quo would seem to be a pretty reasonable approach. What New York has done has been pretty successful. I wouldn’t want to be the person who says “What the heck. It looks safe to go furth
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All depends on your definition of success. Awful lot of dead in both NY and NJ - if you determine the amount of fatalities per 1 million residents, certainly not a good result as compared to most other state. If you look at the effect what they have done to achieve these terrible numbers in these two places, the economies have suffered greatly. i agree with you 100% i would not like to be in anyone's shoes who has to make the decisions as how to proceed. After almost 10 months of this I think we do know a lot more about who is vulnerable and what being vulnerable means. But our knowledge of this virus is still unfortunately not as far advanced as we need to be to make any sort of predictions. I have seen so much talk about vaccines and what they will mean, but how can we know anything about results to expect? Do we make any predictions based on what all the years of influenza vaccines have taught us? Or do we look at measles, mumps, German measles results for our source? Or anyone of the plethora of vaccines we have developed in the past for other noxious invaders? As someone in medicine for a long time I fully admit in this case, I have no expertise to offer and i doubt anyone else does either. My impression is we are flying by the seat of our pants (whatever that means!). But i suspect if we shut down all hockey everywhere and wait for zero cases, we will be waiting for the impossible.
 
DrDemento said:
was specifically talking about the COVID virus and any spread attendant to opening the season. Not thinking about player performance at this stage at all as it is far too premature. Might start thinking about that once we know in fact aht a season will be played.
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What i was trying to say is that several junior leagues, e.g. USHL, NAHL, and BCHL, are playing with no apparent problems. Why should the ECAC be any different?
 
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