RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

The silence is always deafening in the decommit department. Who screwed who is a big secret. GF sounded so sincere in his announcement to his hometown newspaper. He talked about union rivalry etc. Then silence when he is back on the market. what the hell happened. Smith can hide behind NCAA rules but you would think just one of these kids would want to set the record straight. Nobody calls anybody out.

There is one where I know the gory details because I was in contact with his father, but I am sure that he would not want me to post them.

As far as GF is concerned, I suspect that he was influenced a lot by his former teammates in prep school on Chicago's roster. Hopefully, Sarlo won't do the same.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Today is 17 April 2019. There are 171 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 5 October 2019 for the start of next season.

 

[capswon]

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The program reaps what they sew. Comment was made that team was going to remain in tact moving forward after the season. Next thing Jewell is dumped along with the volunteer asst. who had much respect from the players. Burke leaves middle of year, Ott gets exiled and now Hayhurst. I called Hayhurst and Reilly shortly after season ended. 1 out of 2 ain't bad. With Jewel gone dont be surprised if more follow.

 

[rpi82]

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The program reaps what they sew. Comment was made that team was going to remain in tact moving forward after the season. Next thing Jewell is dumped along with the volunteer asst. who had much respect from the players. Burke leaves middle of year, Ott gets exiled and now Hayhurst. I called Hayhurst and Reilly shortly after season ended. 1 out of 2 ain't bad. With Jewel gone dont be surprised if more follow.

Do we know Jewell was “dumped?” We heard that he’s gone but this is the first I’ve seen that implies it was involuntary. It’s also the first I’ve seen that the missing second assistant is the volunteer, Lysyj (sp?), and that it too was involuntary. That position turns over so frequently, for obvious reasons, that I’ve never really paid much attention to the coming and goings.


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[capswon]

Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

Fair...dumped is just my word. Either way neither are there and if any players were "vested" in those two coaches, I think you will see more decommits.

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

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Stability would be nice, but this is college hockey. And because of that, we lose players every year, and they are replaced by new players.
ACs are on the move all the time. Most are doing time waiting for head coaching opportunities or better offers from somewhere else.
So lets not dwell on this off season, and concentrate on the season ahead of us. I am sorry to see Hayhurst go, but while he was a very good playmaker, he was not the sniper we need. I wish him well.
As for leading from the top, I don't think that Shirley has the same enthusiasm for hockey that the people here have. It would be nice if she paid at least a little attention to a game that has brought the entire student body together in the past and could bring it back for the students in the future. That should be part of her job.

 

[RPI22Parent]

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I never thought I would ever respond to this thread but there is so much misinformation I felt the need to do so.

Hayhurst leaving has nothing to do with the current coaching staff. It has more to do with the player and requirements of the college. I will not elaborate more then that. Jewell and Smith decided to part ways. Jewel was integral in the recruiting the last 2 years. Coaches come and go I know my son didn't commit to RPI because of an assistant coach and I also know that no other player currently on the roster committed because of an assistant coach. It has to do with the institution and the HC. Lysyj was a Volunteer. He did some skill work with the players. A volunteer is not allowed to recruit for the college. He is there to assist the staff on campus.

The portal allows players to put there name into a system where other schools can openly see that an individual is considering a transfer. Now the way the portal works an institution does not have to honor their commitment to the player if he doesn't transfer. Its up to each individual institution.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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We had 28 players last season, 16 forwards, 9 defenseman, and 3 goalies. That's counting Moore as a D.

Burke left. Perry, Wiffen, Moore, and Grant graduated. Hayhurst is leaving. I will assume that reports of Ott and Harris leaving a correct. That brings us to 12, 6, and 2.

Thus we need 4, 3, and 1 to keep the same distribution. Miller is the new goalie. That part is simple. We had LOIs signed by 4 forwards (Ashbrook, Dubinsky, Herrman, McIsaac) and 4 defensemen (Babichuk, Davies, Klee, and Kjellberg). Since then one more forward (Mahshie) and one more defenseman (Helsen) have entered the mix. All but McIsaac and Davies among the originals have appeared in the directory, as has Beaton, previously assumed to be coming in 2020.

My guess is that the new forwards are Ashbrook, Dubinsky, Herrman, and Mahshie, and the new D are Babichuk, Klee, and Helsen. If others leave, then I think that Kjellberg and Beaton are also coming. I suspect that McIsaac and Davies won't be coming until 2020.

These are all just my thoughts.

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

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I never thought I would ever respond to this thread but there is so much misinformation I felt the need to do so.

Hayhurst leaving has nothing to do with the current coaching staff. It has more to do with the player and requirements of the college. I will not elaborate more then that. Jewell and Smith decided to part ways. Jewel was integral in the recruiting the last 2 years. Coaches come and go I know my son didn't commit to RPI because of an assistant coach and I also know that no other player currently on the roster committed because of an assistant coach. It has to do with the institution and the HC. Lysyj was a Volunteer. He did some skill work with the players. A volunteer is not allowed to recruit for the college. He is there to assist the staff on campus.

The portal allows players to put there name into a system where other schools can openly see that an individual is considering a transfer. Now the way the portal works an institution does not have to honor their commitment to the player if he doesn't transfer. Its up to each individual institution.

Welcome to the thread. I appreciate your input. Feel free to correct any errors we post here. As outsiders, we can only guess what it going on, it would be nice to get some real insight into the team.
Thank you for your post.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

I never thought I would ever respond to this thread but there is so much misinformation I felt the need to do so.

Hayhurst leaving has nothing to do with the current coaching staff. It has more to do with the player and requirements of the college. I will not elaborate more then that. Jewell and Smith decided to part ways. Jewel was integral in the recruiting the last 2 years. Coaches come and go I know my son didn't commit to RPI because of an assistant coach and I also know that no other player currently on the roster committed because of an assistant coach. It has to do with the institution and the HC. Lysyj was a Volunteer. He did some skill work with the players. A volunteer is not allowed to recruit for the college. He is there to assist the staff on campus.

The portal allows players to put there name into a system where other schools can openly see that an individual is considering a transfer. Now the way the portal works an institution does not have to honor their commitment to the player if he doesn't transfer. Its up to each individual institution.

Thanks for the post. I hope that you stay. Misinformation is typical here in the off season. A matter of fact, during the season too.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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It happens to everyone.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Boston University defenseman Shane Switzer will be transferring to Michigan as a grad student so he’ll be eligible immediately. Should provide experience, size and mobility as two-way D for Wolverines.</p>— Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/1118560797389656065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[TBone]

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An article relating to grad transfers; not sure if it has impact on hockey, but this is a big issue with D1 football and basketball.

https://www.apnews.com/e4fbc74f9e7a454bb4f83954b243271e

"The NCAA Division I Council is expected to vote by Friday on an amendment that would require a grad transfer to count against a team’s scholarship total for two years, no matter how much eligibility the player has left when they arrive. An exception would be made for athletes who complete graduate degree requirements before the start of the second year."

 

[Ralph Baer]

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[jericho]

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I never thought I would ever respond to this thread but there is so much misinformation I felt the need to do so.

Hayhurst leaving has nothing to do with the current coaching staff. It has more to do with the player and requirements of the college. I will not elaborate more then that. Jewell and Smith decided to part ways. Jewel was integral in the recruiting the last 2 years. Coaches come and go I know my son didn't commit to RPI because of an assistant coach and I also know that no other player currently on the roster committed because of an assistant coach. It has to do with the institution and the HC. Lysyj was a Volunteer. He did some skill work with the players. A volunteer is not allowed to recruit for the college. He is there to assist the staff on campus.

The portal allows players to put there name into a system where other schools can openly see that an individual is considering a transfer. Now the way the portal works an institution does not have to honor their commitment to the player if he doesn't transfer. Its up to each individual institution.

Thank you. Nice to have perspective from those more in the know than us. Don't get frustrated reading this thread, RPI fans and posters have long been bitter over the state of the program. Ralph should names all the threads either "misinformation" or "rumors and speculation" although those will be inherent in any thread. Never feel the need to respond as everyone here takes things with a grain of salt anyway.

Now, when is your son leaving the program? (just kidding of course. As you know, there's more to RPI than just athletics.)

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI 2019 Off-Season: Where Did Everyone Go?

Thank you. Nice to have perspective from those more in the know than us. Don't get frustrated reading this thread, RPI fans and posters have long been bitter over the state of the program. Ralph should names all the threads either "misinformation" or "rumors and speculation" although those will be inherent in any thread. Never feel the need to respond as everyone here takes things with a grain of salt anyway.

Now, when is your son leaving the program? (just kidding of course. As you know, there's more to RPI than just athletics.)

When I first read RPI22Parent's message, I assumed that his handle means that he is a parent of a current RPI freshman. I suppose that it could also mean that he is a parent of #22, Donovan Ott, and the misinformation included that DO is leaving.

 

[RPI22Parent]

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When I first read RPI22Parent's message, I assumed that his handle means that he is a parent of a current RPI freshman. I suppose that it could also mean that he is a parent of #22, Donovan Ott, and the misinformation included that DO is leaving.

The 22 has no bearing to class year or son's jersey number. Has more to do with my infinity to the number. To be honest, my son chose RPI because of its history with hockey, and the campus plus our desire for him to get a first rate education. He had opportunities at schools that, in their current state, are much better hockey programs. Programs that would be promoting him more for a longer career in hockey but it was never just about the hockey for us as a family. If it was he would have gone the major junior route.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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The 22 has no bearing to class year or son's jersey number. Has more to do with my infinity to the number. To be honest, my son chose RPI because of its history with hockey, and the campus plus our desire for him to get a first rate education. He had opportunities at schools that, in their current state, are much better hockey programs. Programs that would be promoting him more for a longer career in hockey but it was never just about the hockey for us as a family. If it was he would have gone the major junior route.

And it's sentiments like that where I'm proud to promote ice hockey over the other college sports.

 

[25+years]

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It happens to everyone.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Boston University defenseman Shane Switzer will be transferring to Michigan as a grad student so he’ll be eligible immediately. Should provide experience, size and mobility as two-way D for Wolverines.</p>— Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/1118560797389656065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I don't fault JH one bit. Clearly many other schools have lost players to the pros. This creates opportunities. The question, as I see it ,for JH is are his pro chances better staying put or going to a team higher in the rankings? If you had a far better chance playing in the post season elsewhere, what would you do? The guy has no academic reason to stay and,depending on his post grad pursuit, may have strong reasons academically to look elsewhere. Hockey wise it reminds me of talented players in the NHL who want to go to a playoff team after years on a lower performing team and get at least one chance at the Cup. I have enjoyed watching him play and I wish him well.

 

[sezenack]

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The 22 has no bearing to class year or son's jersey number. Has more to do with my infinity to the number. To be honest, my son chose RPI because of its history with hockey, and the campus plus our desire for him to get a first rate education. He had opportunities at schools that, in their current state, are much better hockey programs. Programs that would be promoting him more for a longer career in hockey but it was never just about the hockey for us as a family. If it was he would have gone the major junior route.

Well we're glad your son chose RPI! Brighter days are ahead (at least I hope), and I'm sure he will be a big part in that and help change the culture of the program.

 

[DavidNardolillo]

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I never thought I would ever respond to this thread but there is so much misinformation I felt the need to do so.

Hayhurst leaving has nothing to do with the current coaching staff. It has more to do with the player and requirements of the college. I will not elaborate more then that. Jewell and Smith decided to part ways. Jewel was integral in the recruiting the last 2 years. Coaches come and go I know my son didn't commit to RPI because of an assistant coach and I also know that no other player currently on the roster committed because of an assistant coach. It has to do with the institution and the HC. Lysyj was a Volunteer. He did some skill work with the players. A volunteer is not allowed to recruit for the college. He is there to assist the staff on campus.

The portal allows players to put there name into a system where other schools can openly see that an individual is considering a transfer. Now the way the portal works an institution does not have to honor their commitment to the player if he doesn't transfer. Its up to each individual institution.

Thanks for the information on the transfer portal. I think the grad transfer is just going to be a reality across DI sports unless the rules change. At least we are not talking about basketball where there are only 7-9 men rotations: UAlbany's season was devastated through the grad transfer rule.

The reasons for Jacob leaving aren't that important to me as I think most people sensed that this was a possibility from a purely hockey perspective, e.g. most thought his skill set would draw some interest from other schools if he could qualify for the graduate transfer. I am sorry to see him go, but I am looking forward to seeing what the team can accomplish next season.