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RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

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Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Good morning. I am working on an editorial that should post on WaP sometime today, and did some video research on some of the items of contention this weekend. I'm not going to bring it up in the editorial, so I thought I would give you my thoughts on the items of note.

Friday, 3rd period, 19:53: The only available video, to my knowledge, is the RPI wide-angle shot that was shown in the post-game presser by Seth Appert - it was a video of a video. It's not the clearest thing in the world, but fortunately the contrast of white jerseys with black jerseys helps make things at least somewhat analyzable. Appert obviously couldn't see anything by his review, and I couldn't see any issues either. I do believe this is a goal that probably should have counted.

Saturday, 1st period, 10:32: This is the Halpern goal that was disallowed. The official ruling on the ice was that the net was off its moorings, or so we were led to believe. After reviewing RPI TV's excellent video, I doubt that was the actual ruling - the net doesn't appear to move in the slightest. The puck did, however, get kicked in off a skate, and the WRPI announcers believed it was off an Engineers' skate. After looking at it several times, I believe it was probably kicked in by Union's Nolan Julseth-White. He was crashing the net to keep an Engineer who I think was Johnny Rogic from getting to Halpern's rebound, and it looks like he inadvertently kicked the puck in. This should also have been a goal, credited to Scott Halpern.

Saturday, 3rd period, 13:59: There had been some grumbling in the RPI sections at the Field House that Jooris' goal may not have crossed the line. I had to watch the replay several times to see it, but it did in fact squirt past Mike Bergin, who was standing in the net with York sprawled out on the ice. Bergin went to stop the puck with his shin, but it bounced down onto the goal line and barely over it before his skate, coming around with a natural motion, swept it out of the net. The referee was well positioned to see it, the goal light did come on, and the WRPI announcers, from their position on the catwalk, probably had a good look at it too. Right call.

Saturday, 3rd period, 18:09: Ingoldsby's check from behind was textbook - the reason that the automatic five and the gate were put into place. Lee is lucky he wasn't a couple of inches farther away from the board or he could have been seriously injured. I had to double check this one because it happened in the corner that was out of my view at the Field House and wasn't sure if it was legit or not.

Saturday, 3rd period, 19:28: Andrew Buote absolutely got away with one here. With Polacek firing away on the doorstep, he turned away from his man and, unassisted, skated directly into the crossbar and threw the net off its moorings. Textbook delay of game - RPI really should have had a 6-on-3.

Saturday, 3rd period, 19:59: O'Grady's goal was absolutely over the line prior to the green light. The video's pretty clear about that - it's just a shame the referees didn't have access to the video to dispel doubt.

Saturday, Overtime, 1:42: I'm leery of penalties in overtime unless they take away an obvious scoring chance or they are the result of a dangerous play. Julseth-White's penalty was absolutely the latter. It wasn't quite as dangerous as Ingoldsby's hit, but it's something that absolutely has to be called to discourage that kind of play from happening for the safety of everyone who plays.

It looks like the Refs had 4 right and 3 wrong. Well, that's better than the usual. :)
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Here's short clips of the last two goals:

http://www.rpitv.org/productions/339-mens-hockey-vs-union

Full game will be up early this morning; it's possible you'll see a longer length highlight reel too at some point.

Our video shows the puck in the goal at .4 or .3 on our scoreboard. Unfortunately, our scoreboard isn't truly synced to the game clock, so it's mostly useless for review purposes. You can easily see, however, that the puck is in the net before the green light is lit. The red light never comes on.

I can get clips up pretty quickly if there's a particular penalty, play, or other goal you'd like to see.

Finally, congrats to Tom Reale on his Rabbani jersey!


Great job by WRPI's color guy as well. Perfect description of the play with the proper amount of excitement. ;) Regardless, nice job with the videos, they're great.
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

I am confused-why if RPI has the ability to broadcast the games does B2 have a contract? I agree if we aren't able to attend and want to watch we should be paying and watching RPI TV.

I believe it's a multi-year contract, and they only recently (in quick fashion to the best of my knowledge) started putting the games up online.
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Seems like there will be a little lull in the action so I wanted to propose something to the members of the board. I think we have all read with dismay the departure of Red Cloud. One of the reason that I was attracted to the board was the edgy comments from this young talented poster. Here's my idea, let's over the next few days post comments asking for his return, sorta of like an online petition in hopes that he will come back. I would suggest that our fearless leader Ralph be the first to sign because let's face it, Ralph is the guru. I think a message from the venerable Doctor Baer and others might be a nice gesture to our colleague and maybe persuade him to return. I'll start the ball rolling.

Dear Red Cloud,
I respectfully request that you return to the board. You are one of us, a die hard RPI Hockey fan and your absence is glaring and unwanted by your fellow posters. Please consider returning to the board and resume posting your insightful thoughts. In advance, thank you for your consideration.
/signed/
AspyDad

You can use this format or any of your choosing. Thank you

Or, we could just let Red Cloud post as the poster chooses. There are plenty of other posters on here that, from time to time, will make edgy comments.
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Great job by WRPI's color guy as well. Perfect description of the play with the proper amount of excitement. ;) Regardless, nice job with the videos, they're great.

:p
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Seems like there will be a little lull in the action so I wanted to propose something to the members of the board. I think we have all read with dismay the departure of Red Cloud. One of the reason that I was attracted to the board was the edgy comments from this young talented poster. Here's my idea, let's over the next few days post comments asking for his return, sorta of like an online petition in hopes that he will come back. I would suggest that our fearless leader Ralph be the first to sign because let's face it, Ralph is the guru. I think a message from the venerable Doctor Baer and others might be a nice gesture to our colleague and maybe persuade him to return. I'll start the ball rolling.

Dear Red Cloud,
I respectfully request that you return to the board. You are one of us, a die hard RPI Hockey fan and your absence is glaring and unwanted by your fellow posters. Please consider returning to the board and resume posting your insightful thoughts. In advance, thank you for your consideration.
/signed/
AspyDad

You can use this format or any of your choosing. Thank you

You got a man crush on Red Cloud or something. Might be borderline order of protection level. 100 feet away looks to be in your future real soon.
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Try sitting in my section at the field house....every time an RPI player drops it should be called it seems. Or a person gets a woodie for yelling something and sticks with it all night. I have people around me ask if this happens often and I have to just shake my head and go yeah.
Lighten up...its a Hockey Game not the symphony....if the fact that RPI fans are in fact "Homers" @ the fieldhouse maybe you should just attend the away games you should reallly enjoy that !!!
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Lighten up...its a Hockey Game not the symphony....if the fact that RPI fans are in fact "Homers" @ the fieldhouse maybe you should just attend the away games you should reallly enjoy that !!!

I have no issue with the "homers" yelling and cheering but when they yell the same thing at someone for the entire game it gets pretty annoying. Especially when that person is not a player on the ice. Or when they leave with a minute left in a one goal game to "beat the traffic". I do not even want to start on how I feel about not being able to stand up with the rest of the arena when they do towards the end of tight games in fear of being told to sit down.
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

It too bad that people like you ridicule others for reaching out. Oh well, I'll take you as a no.

Calm down skippy, I am just messing with you. RC added alot to these threads but he has chosen to step away and enjoy the hockey and keep his opinions to himself. Let him go and maybe you can pick up the slack in terms of talent and edgy comments. He shouldnt be treated like a internet god like some people treat him as around here. I usually just avoided commenting on his posts for the simple fact that I dont wanna waste my time going back and forth on who can make the most edgy comments.
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Do I sense some jealousy of RC?

It's not jealousy, but rather respecting the wishes of the poster. On top of this, I feel that, instead of "running alongside the train" as it were, let the poster leave on the poster's own terms, that be the end, and we move on to something we all enjoy: RPI College Hockey.

BTW, WaP has an interesting take on the referee's "Catch-22": http://www.withoutapeer.com/2010/11/just-get-it-right-not-quite.html
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Someone mentioned in the game thread last night about bringing JL in for the second half of the season, first that is a horrible idea to waste a half year on a talented player and second has RPI ever brought in a player halfway into the season before?
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

I was surprised to see JFK behind the bench last night. Do we think it was a decision by the coaches or JFK asking to be with him team even if it was just on the bench during a big game?
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

I was surprised to see JFK behind the bench last night. Do we think it was a decision by the coaches or JFK asking to be with him team even if it was just on the bench during a big game?

He's the captain, I think it's a great thing for leadership to be there motivating the team during play, even if he can't do it by example. Not to mention, he did run "practices" for a couple months prior to October. It's the absolute best thing while tending to his injury.
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Or, we could just let Red Cloud post as the poster chooses. There are plenty of other posters on here that, from time to time, will make edgy comments.
Put me down as a yes vote....The key words in your post was "from time to time"....RC was the consistant conscience of this board....He was our Reggie Jackson.....He now is the 3rd.big loss of this season...first JDA then BP....Now RC....We can't bring Jerry and Brandon back but buy the grace of God and popular demand he may return to this thread like Billy Martin did with the yankees...lets hope the headlines read "RED CLOUD HAS RETURNED"
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

BTW, WaP has an interesting take on the referee's "Catch-22": http://www.withoutapeer.com/2010/11/just-get-it-right-not-quite.html

Interesting read. I really love this game especially at the NCAA level. But what I love most, are the games where I don't even notice the officials. For me it does not get any better than a game that I leave and have to ask who were the officials that night. These kinds of nights are happening far less often.
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Someone mentioned in the game thread last night about bringing JL in for the second half of the season, first that is a horrible idea to waste a half year on a talented player and second has RPI ever brought in a player halfway into the season before?

That was me, and I was just kidding. We have brought in players midyear before, but not in decades.
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Put me down as a yes vote....The key words in your post was "from time to time"....RC was the consistant conscience of this board....He was our Reggie Jackson.....He now is the 3rd.big loss of this season...first JDA then BP....Now RC....We can't bring Jerry and Brandon back but buy the grace of God and popular demand he may return to this thread like Billy Martin did with the yankees...lets hope the headlines read "RED CLOUD HAS RETURNED"

RPI 2010-11 Part III: Red Cloud has Returned! :)
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

I have no issue with the "homers" yelling and cheering but when they yell the same thing at someone for the entire game it gets pretty annoying. Especially when that person is not a player on the ice. Or when they leave with a minute left in a one goal game to "beat the traffic". I do not even want to start on how I feel about not being able to stand up with the rest of the arena when they do towards the end of tight games in fear of being told to sit down.
The only piece of advice I can offer is don't go to a Ranger game @ the Garden !!!
 
Re: RPI 2010-11 Part II: RPI, the Other Team, the Refs -- We're outnumbered 10 to 6.

Calm down skippy, I am just messing with you. RC added alot to these threads but he has chosen to step away and enjoy the hockey and keep his opinions to himself. Let him go and maybe you can pick up the slack in terms of talent and edgy comments. He shouldnt be treated like a internet god like some people treat him as around here. I usually just avoided commenting on his posts for the simple fact that I dont wanna waste my time going back and forth on who can make the most edgy comments.
I beg to differ Red Cloud is an Internet God !!!!!!!!!
 
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