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>>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
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Tom Naeger
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
The talent the team had coming back and coming in fully justified the poll. But yes the inconsistent play make them look like a 3rd or 4th place team at times. Here we are again after a full game effort last night, they start okay and then seem to hit a road block. Need another great 3rd period to get at least a point to cap this weekend.
I am really getting tired of seeing them lose battles along the board...
The talent the team had coming back and coming in fully justified the poll. But yes the inconsistent play make them look like a 3rd or 4th place team at times. Here we are again after a full game effort last night, they start okay and then seem to hit a road block. Need another great 3rd period to get at least a point to cap this weekend.
I am really getting tired of seeing them lose battles along the board...
Tom Naeger
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
Quick reaction comments:
1) This team is a inconsistent sloppy mess right now, I am a little worry if they can make it to Blue Cross or not, much less defend their back to back title. They just get to dam sloppy to often
2) What does it take to get this team to hear the message shot the puck and hit the neck for second chances
3) Why on the PK are the forwards never getting above the circles?
4) Not blaming Rotolo I still think he is their most consistent Performer (honorable mention to Brown). But to make my self feel better for defending them, remember 4-5 years ago when people wanted to run Ruby and Watson out of campus?? Look at save percentages...
Ruby in 2013-2014 .892%
2012-2013
Ruby .911%
Watson .905%
This season update with today's AIC game
Rotolo .896%
God being from Rochester makes a difference...
Quick reaction comments:
1) This team is a inconsistent sloppy mess right now, I am a little worry if they can make it to Blue Cross or not, much less defend their back to back title. They just get to dam sloppy to often
2) What does it take to get this team to hear the message shot the puck and hit the neck for second chances
3) Why on the PK are the forwards never getting above the circles?
4) Not blaming Rotolo I still think he is their most consistent Performer (honorable mention to Brown). But to make my self feel better for defending them, remember 4-5 years ago when people wanted to run Ruby and Watson out of campus?? Look at save percentages...
Ruby in 2013-2014 .892%
2012-2013
Ruby .911%
Watson .905%
This season update with today's AIC game
Rotolo .896%
God being from Rochester makes a difference...
danceswithpucks
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
Sigh. Story of the season so far: a strong showing followed by crushing disappointment. The engine turns over but it won't start. Maybe a solenoid? Whatever the hockey equivalent is, I think ours is broken.
Sigh. Story of the season so far: a strong showing followed by crushing disappointment. The engine turns over but it won't start. Maybe a solenoid? Whatever the hockey equivalent is, I think ours is broken.
Downstate_RIT_Fan
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
I was actually so miffed last weekend that I picked RIT to get swept this weekend. I felt pretty dumb after last night but now I'm thinking I was not too far off with my thoughts that this team is a bit off and maybe this year will be an early exit from the playoffs. Definitely seem to be sleepwalking through the regular season. Don't know if coach plays poker but maybe the regular season does not mean much in terms of battling for the league championship but is more about character building and getting the team geared up for the playoffs. On paper this is a very good team, one if not the best in the league, that superior talent though doesn't consistently manifest itself on the ice. I suppose that is the challenge of being a college hockey coach, getting the players up for every game, these kids are studs though, you'd think they would be busting out of the gate every chance they get if they have any aspirations of playing at the next level.
I was actually so miffed last weekend that I picked RIT to get swept this weekend. I felt pretty dumb after last night but now I'm thinking I was not too far off with my thoughts that this team is a bit off and maybe this year will be an early exit from the playoffs. Definitely seem to be sleepwalking through the regular season. Don't know if coach plays poker but maybe the regular season does not mean much in terms of battling for the league championship but is more about character building and getting the team geared up for the playoffs. On paper this is a very good team, one if not the best in the league, that superior talent though doesn't consistently manifest itself on the ice. I suppose that is the challenge of being a college hockey coach, getting the players up for every game, these kids are studs though, you'd think they would be busting out of the gate every chance they get if they have any aspirations of playing at the next level.
RIT Winters
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
Madolora had more shutouts each season he was a starter (6 in 2010-11, 7 in 2011-12) than Rotolo has in his career - and he has been starting a good number of games each year since he was a freshmen.
Like just about any goalie Rotolo can get hot and win us some games, and he managed to get us to the NCAAs last year doing just that. But as an every game starter his numbers are just not acceptable in a program of RIT's caliber. I'm not going to allow them the excuse of "well the AHC is better than ever" because goalies all around the league are doing considerably better - even on demonstrably worse teams. Mike is lucky he's 1) from the area and 2) has apparently no legitimate backup threatening him.
Madolora had more shutouts each season he was a starter (6 in 2010-11, 7 in 2011-12) than Rotolo has in his career - and he has been starting a good number of games each year since he was a freshmen.
Like just about any goalie Rotolo can get hot and win us some games, and he managed to get us to the NCAAs last year doing just that. But as an every game starter his numbers are just not acceptable in a program of RIT's caliber. I'm not going to allow them the excuse of "well the AHC is better than ever" because goalies all around the league are doing considerably better - even on demonstrably worse teams. Mike is lucky he's 1) from the area and 2) has apparently no legitimate backup threatening him.
Tom Naeger
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
At this point I think it's pretty clear who Mike Rotolo is. Which is a spirited goaltender, who makes most of the Saves he should. I will say the suspect goals are normally not outrageous. So in short he gives you a chance to win if you play a good game in front of him. If you do not play a good game in front of him the probability of winning is low. That has been a calming influence on what has been a roller coaster ride of goaltenders since Madalora departed from RIT. I am stunned by the news or lack their of on Christian Short. But that's been well discussed on here and I am convinced their is something more there that will not become Public. So for better or worst Rotolo is the man in nets that will take this roller coaster team as far as it will go...
At this point I think it's pretty clear who Mike Rotolo is. Which is a spirited goaltender, who makes most of the Saves he should. I will say the suspect goals are normally not outrageous. So in short he gives you a chance to win if you play a good game in front of him. If you do not play a good game in front of him the probability of winning is low. That has been a calming influence on what has been a roller coaster ride of goaltenders since Madalora departed from RIT. I am stunned by the news or lack their of on Christian Short. But that's been well discussed on here and I am convinced their is something more there that will not become Public. So for better or worst Rotolo is the man in nets that will take this roller coaster team as far as it will go...
Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
Here's what I think. The Tigers have more than enough skill to win, and win big, when the other team fails to put in an A+ effort. But when the other team is superior in either effort or skill, the Tigers have trouble matching it. That explains the second Robert Morris game and the second games against Sacred Heart and AIC: those teams were desperate and embarrassed after the previous nights and came out firing on all cylinders. That put the Tigers back on their heels and they didn't know how to respond. It also explains the non-conference games: superior opponents used to putting out that kind of effort every night, and RIT couldn't respond by elevating their own game.
The real question is why. There are players on this team who beat Mankato in 2015. They should know how to push beyond that plateau. But they still seem stymied by a team that's playing aggressively.
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Here's what I think. The Tigers have more than enough skill to win, and win big, when the other team fails to put in an A+ effort. But when the other team is superior in either effort or skill, the Tigers have trouble matching it. That explains the second Robert Morris game and the second games against Sacred Heart and AIC: those teams were desperate and embarrassed after the previous nights and came out firing on all cylinders. That put the Tigers back on their heels and they didn't know how to respond. It also explains the non-conference games: superior opponents used to putting out that kind of effort every night, and RIT couldn't respond by elevating their own game.
The real question is why. There are players on this team who beat Mankato in 2015. They should know how to push beyond that plateau. But they still seem stymied by a team that's playing aggressively.
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Tom Naeger
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
I really see consistent sloppy/dumb play as a major issue on this team. You are going to get sloppy at times during a long season but we see the same mistakes way to often. Poor Breakouts and lapses in defensive coverage, and blatantly dumb penalties. When the other team take advantage of it we are typically in for a frustrating night. If you look at last weekend, I thought neither team played that great either night. Going back to RMU I think you saw what they could do when you gave them opportunity after opportunity on the power play. This year in non-conference play you see it adds up to a complete inability to win. In conference, there still are a lot of teams that they can get away with playing like that, but still makes a lot of games close. The talent gap has closed considerably in AHA play. They are definitely not going anywhere if they make it to the NCAAs playing like the have.
I an not accustomed to seeing a Wayne Wilson coach team this sloppy at times. The bar has he has said many times is high at RIT. But many of the guys who have been here and been part of both Championship seasons are on the list of sloppy play. No excuses at this point, just gave to go out and play solid hockey...
I really see consistent sloppy/dumb play as a major issue on this team. You are going to get sloppy at times during a long season but we see the same mistakes way to often. Poor Breakouts and lapses in defensive coverage, and blatantly dumb penalties. When the other team take advantage of it we are typically in for a frustrating night. If you look at last weekend, I thought neither team played that great either night. Going back to RMU I think you saw what they could do when you gave them opportunity after opportunity on the power play. This year in non-conference play you see it adds up to a complete inability to win. In conference, there still are a lot of teams that they can get away with playing like that, but still makes a lot of games close. The talent gap has closed considerably in AHA play. They are definitely not going anywhere if they make it to the NCAAs playing like the have.
I an not accustomed to seeing a Wayne Wilson coach team this sloppy at times. The bar has he has said many times is high at RIT. But many of the guys who have been here and been part of both Championship seasons are on the list of sloppy play. No excuses at this point, just gave to go out and play solid hockey...
Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
I was afraid for Saturday night because the when the Tigers usually win walking away on Friday, they come out flat on Saturday. They continue this trend I'm sad to say. The rest of the series this season will play a big part of where they end up for the play-offs. Canisius has what I believe is the easiest schedule and will probably pull into first place in the near future. Tigers better figure it out or they may be playing in the first round of the play-offs, even on the road at that.
As far as Rotolo, he plays an average game in net. Certainly not the best goalie the Tigers have had in the last five years but the team can win if the D can get the puck out of the zone.
I was afraid for Saturday night because the when the Tigers usually win walking away on Friday, they come out flat on Saturday. They continue this trend I'm sad to say. The rest of the series this season will play a big part of where they end up for the play-offs. Canisius has what I believe is the easiest schedule and will probably pull into first place in the near future. Tigers better figure it out or they may be playing in the first round of the play-offs, even on the road at that.
As far as Rotolo, he plays an average game in net. Certainly not the best goalie the Tigers have had in the last five years but the team can win if the D can get the puck out of the zone.
Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
Stupid question from someone who doesn't know much about hockey: Given how many shots they've gotten against Canisius and the average number of goals they've given up against them, what else can the Tigers do to beat Canisius? You can't really say "shoot more". Do we really need to pitch a shutout to get a win?
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Stupid question from someone who doesn't know much about hockey: Given how many shots they've gotten against Canisius and the average number of goals they've given up against them, what else can the Tigers do to beat Canisius? You can't really say "shoot more". Do we really need to pitch a shutout to get a win?
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Shot selection. You can make any goalie look like a god by shooting everything from way out with no screen. The key to winning this game was getting pucks deep and taking away Williams' eyes. Neither of which they did effectively.
RIT Winters
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
Canisius looks like a team on the way up. RIT looks like a team goin' nowhere.
The second and third tonight were completely void of anything appearing to be heart or grit or drive from RIT, whereas Canisius came out swinging after the intermission.
Canisius looks like a team on the way up. RIT looks like a team goin' nowhere.
The second and third tonight were completely void of anything appearing to be heart or grit or drive from RIT, whereas Canisius came out swinging after the intermission.
Tom Naeger
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
Charles Williams made some good saves to keep the Griffs in the game in the first. After that maybe 1 or two of the remaining 29 shots were difficult. Give Canisius credit they just play a defensive shell and invite you to beat yourself and RIT is very good at that these days. I thought their first period was good, but same old when you think things are alright, they turn around and play a horrible second period. The Sloppy play was so bad it made me barely care that one of the refs decided to take the night off. Third was just heartless. I know guys are out of the lineup, but the only way out of this mess is all out effort. RIT is just not good at hockey right now. Is Canisius going anywhere, I don't know. Maybe if they play their defensive game and things bounce just right for them they can sneak away with the AHA tournament and most likely get smoked by Penn State, Duluth, Denver, or BU. But I could care less about them. More concern about a team that was built to win a third title, but has gone from me just hoping they make Blue Cross, to me just hoping they get a first round bye, to me saying maybe they will get a first round playoff home series. In about 3 weeks...
Charles Williams made some good saves to keep the Griffs in the game in the first. After that maybe 1 or two of the remaining 29 shots were difficult. Give Canisius credit they just play a defensive shell and invite you to beat yourself and RIT is very good at that these days. I thought their first period was good, but same old when you think things are alright, they turn around and play a horrible second period. The Sloppy play was so bad it made me barely care that one of the refs decided to take the night off. Third was just heartless. I know guys are out of the lineup, but the only way out of this mess is all out effort. RIT is just not good at hockey right now. Is Canisius going anywhere, I don't know. Maybe if they play their defensive game and things bounce just right for them they can sneak away with the AHA tournament and most likely get smoked by Penn State, Duluth, Denver, or BU. But I could care less about them. More concern about a team that was built to win a third title, but has gone from me just hoping they make Blue Cross, to me just hoping they get a first round bye, to me saying maybe they will get a first round playoff home series. In about 3 weeks...
Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
Well sure. And we can assume the team knows this. They certainly were trying to do so. "Try harder" seems insufficient as a solution.
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Well sure. And we can assume the team knows this. They certainly were trying to do so. "Try harder" seems insufficient as a solution.
Powers &8^]
Downstate_RIT_Fan
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
I think tonight is about as close to a must win as we've seen all season. Just to feel good about themselves. As beat up as they are it will be a tall order.
I think tonight is about as close to a must win as we've seen all season. Just to feel good about themselves. As beat up as they are it will be a tall order.
Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2016-17: That was fun; let's go for three!
Tonight's a must win just to keep pace with the top four. A win would get them out of that three-way tie for 3rd they are currently in and should do wonders for their confidence.
Tonight's a must win just to keep pace with the top four. A win would get them out of that three-way tie for 3rd they are currently in and should do wonders for their confidence.
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