>>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

[RIT Winters]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Thats a bit harsh for October. You know I was disappointed too, but for the way you are talking I hope you have at least played the game of hockey competitvely. And dont give me the bs crap about I dont have to play to give an opinion because you really dont know the game truly unless you have.

Frontier's terrible internet ate my response.

Suffice to say, if the team comes out looking like this after that debacle against Penn State, I'm not sure when they are going to wake up. This is a team with no reason to feel superior playing like teams are just going to lay down in front of them because of how mighty the Tigers are. Even Wilson pretty much called them bad tonight.

 

[kerwing7]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

What a bizarre game. I'm not sure what just happened - except of course that we lost another game (in spectacular fashion) that we should have won.
Can't really blame this one on the usual culprits of lack of hustle or lack of offense - or at least they weren't the main causes.
In the first period I was thinking that we found our number one goalie in Ruby and we were going to be fine this season in goal. Then the second period happened...and then the third period...
We've gotten spoiled in recent years by our generally excellent goaltending and defense. Those areas seem to have taken a big step back this season - at least it seems so thus far. Last year we'd have one or both of our defensemen getting involved it the offense in a desperate effort to score more goals. We could get away with that most of the time because Madalora was so good. I think those days are over, our d-men need to stay home and protect our goal. That Nolan Descoteaux goal was great, but what is a defenseman doing behind the opposing goal, even strength, with our goaltending issues?
The good news is that at least we only need to sit on this loss until Friday night. My guess is that Watson will be in goal Friday. I think coach Wilson needs to figure out quickly if he has anything in him before we look at the freshman.

 

[RIT Fan]

Suffice to say, if the team comes out looking like this after that debacle against Penn State, I'm not sure when they are going to wake up.

This is what I'm most concerned with. Hopefully tomorrow is better but the two points given up tonight will probably come back and haunt the team.

 

[Fishman'81]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

I haven't read any of the above, because I didn't have a dog in the hunt... But what a game to watch as an impartial fan of college hockey!

The ebb and flow made for terrific entertainment, and the provided feed from TWC was crystal-clear for the first time ever. (As in, actual HD on their HD channel.)

Both teams clearly have talent; this game hinged on effort and luck. Bad bounces abounded at times, yet the result isn't very significant in October, no matter how you slice it.

It was just a great early-season contest to watch, and it looks to me as though either team could go deep in the NCAAs, should either earn a bid.

Parity is truly here in D-1.

 

[jflory81]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

I have serious concerns with our defense. I'm not sure Noyes is top pairing quality, and I'm not sure Descoteaux (who is 3rd best) or anyone else is 2nd pairing quality. I did like the physicalilty from Kuqali, but I'm not sure he's mobile enough to play against scoring lines.

I also have serious concerns about our goaltending. Ruby did get hung out to dry a couple times for sure, but there were big saves to be had. And he seems to lack the size/presence for this level of hockey. He seemed small in his net in traffic a lot tonight. I liked his ability to read the game at times, but even there he seemed excitible as the game turned from a comfortable lead to a deficit.

I don't think goal scoring will be a concern when we play well. This year's team is crashing the net much better than last year's edition. That's actually what kind of scares me about tonight. I can't fault the effort at all. I'm just not sure we're good enough in the back.

 

[WestsideTigersFan]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Another terrible performance last night. And there isn't any one aspect you can blame more than another, they were absolutely awful in every aspect of the game. A few points:

1. Descoteaux- A poster mentioned him as our 3rd best D. That's the problem. He's no better than a 6 or 7th guy on a lot of the competition we will face. He came in looking in a lot better shape this season than in seasons past, looked like he dropped some weight and I had hopes that would increase his mobility, which was, and continues to be an issue for him. I initially attributed some of his struggles keeping up with the play to his physical conditioning, but I now realize that wasn't the only culprit. He doesn't read the play as well as others, and that coupled with his lack of mobility puts him in bad spots and creates far too many scoring opportunities for the opponent. If we had a true #1 shut down D-man, you could pair them together and cover his shortcomings. Without that, he's a bit of a liability.

2. Ruby- at some point he needs to live up to his advance billing as an elite level goaltender. I haven't seen a hint of it yet. And with the way the team is struggling it could really use a goalie to step up and help carry the team until the ship can right itself (if it can). The opportunity was there last night and he certainly didn't make much out of it.

3. Leadership- its clear this team doesn't have much leadership. (and if it does, the rest of the team apparently doesn't give a ****). There is no passion, no fire. There is no one you look out at on the ice and say "that guy is the face of our team". It's sorely lacking and becoming a glaring issue. When you have to put an A on a soph., you may have some chemistry issues.

4. Coaching- Once again, preparation seemed lacking. And there was a glaring lack of adjustment to the in game adjustments Robert Morris made. This trend is disturbing. Maybe the coaching staff is preparing them but the talent can't carry it out on the ice, but the lack of in game adjustments is concerning.

5. Time for Maclean. Why not. Nothing to lose at this point. After all OOC games don't matter, or so I've been told over and over again by certain parties....

 

[Downstate_RIT_Fan]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Not ready to hit the panic button yet, after all we did get beat by Robert Morris soundly last year in their barn (Shane gave up 4 goals) and we still made it to the BCA in the end. We know Robert Morris has a good team. As WestsideTigersFan said, it would be nice to see Maclean tonight and one other thing...it would be nice to also see a fire lit under the Tigers. How that fire starts is what makes college hockey so great. Whether it be leadership, coaching, individual effort, i.e., a hot goalie or even an incident on the ice....something will rev this team up. I am hoping for a great effort tonight as they try to figure this thing out. I get to watch Penn State again tonight at Army, if Army puts a hurtin' on Penn State, this will be an interesting year in Atlantic Hockey.

 

[cplinford]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Lets not forget DeMike and Madalora all looked pretty shaky in some of their first starts. Frustrating way to lose but I do think there was some positives. I think Shumway and Kuqali are going to develop nicely on D. They have a ways to go but Shumway moved the puck nicely a couple of times and Kuqali laid out a couple nice hits. I think Jeff Smith is stepping up, maybe he will have a Sarazin type senior year

Remember RIT has only beaten RMU twice and once was in OT, the last couple of seasons they arent cupcakes like alot of us through Penn State would be

 

[romo]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Not ready to hit the panic button yet, after all we did get beat by Robert Morris soundly last year in their barn (Shane gave up 4 goals) and we still made it to the BCA in the end. We know Robert Morris has a good team. As WestsideTigersFan said, it would be nice to see Maclean tonight and one other thing...it would be nice to also see a fire lit under the Tigers. How that fire starts is what makes college hockey so great. Whether it be leadership, coaching, individual effort, i.e., a hot goalie or even an incident on the ice....something will rev this team up. I am hoping for a great effort tonight as they try to figure this thing out. I get to watch Penn State again tonight at Army, if Army puts a hurtin' on Penn State, this will be an interesting year in Atlantic Hockey.

I attended the game last night my first NCAA. I have never enjoyed a hockey game so much. I couldnt
be more impressed with the student body . They had fun and had many chants but they lacked venom.
Thank you for a fun evening RIT.
The hockey game could have gone either way, you could pick faults in both sides and there
were good efforts on both sides. In a game ,where a good break either way, would determine the winner
RMU got them. Tonight RIT lost, but given a repeat of the same game and alucky bounce
or two they would win.
Dont give up on Ruby he is a good goalie , just wasnt his night.

 

[cplinford]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Looking at these years October record and years past its looking pretty similar. Now in some of those years there was some strong AHA wins but really RIT just normally starts slow. The frozen four year those two AHA losses where against Air Force. And this year Air Force has yet to win a game and lost to a Canadian school. Serratore must be losing his mind

2012-2013
1-3-0 0-1-0
1 game to go (NC)

2011-2012
1-3-1 0-2-1

2010-2011
2-4-1 1-0-0

2009-2010*
2-5-0 2-2-0

2008-2010
2-4-1 1-1-1

*= frozen four year

 

[komey1]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

I'm not sure how much Ruby should be piled on for this effort. The defense let him down a few times. That said, he did give up some dangerous rebounds, and it felt like he was fighting the puck for a while after the goals. But as the last line of defense, Ruby needed to play better. I don't think there is a lockdown defenseman on the team like there was with Ringwald. To top it off, it's not like aside from Cino and Noyes, the defensemen at least contribute on offense on a regular basis. The Frozen Four team rolled out 2 pairs of defensemen that could put up some points. Now, we have 1, and that changes things.

I was fine for the most part with the offense. Yes, there were some whiffs and posts - but those are going to happen. They were able to score 4 goals against a solid AHA team. Points again will be at a premium it seems based on early results, so not being able to get at least a tie may come back and hurt RIT in the long term.

 

[komey1]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Another thing to remember is that Robert Morris beat Quinnipiac, who was ranked #18 at the time, so it's not like the Tigers played a bad team. I won't start worrying until they lose games to AIC.

 

[RITFan67]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Looking at these years October record and years past its looking pretty similar. Now in some of those years there was some strong AHA wins but really RIT just normally starts slow. The frozen four year those two AHA losses where against Air Force. And this year Air Force has yet to win a game and lost to a Canadian school. Serratore must be losing his mind

2012-2013
1-3-0 0-1-0
1 game to go (NC)

2011-2012
1-3-1 0-2-1

2010-2011
2-4-1 1-0-0

2009-2010*
2-5-0 2-2-0

2008-2010
2-4-1 1-1-1

*= frozen four year

Early losses are always disappointing... but you are right, RIT always starts slow and builds throughout the season. Keep the faith!!

 

[Bing]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Another thing to remember is that Robert Morris beat Quinnipiac, who was ranked #18 at the time, so it's not like the Tigers played a bad team. I won't start worrying until they lose games to AIC.

Exactly. RoMo is a good team, it's not the end of the world that we lost to them. We scored 4 goals (that's a good thing), and are (hopefully) recognizing where we need to focus defensively.

 

[komey1]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

1. Descoteaux- A poster mentioned him as our 3rd best D. That's the problem. He's no better than a 6 or 7th guy on a lot of the competition we will face. He came in looking in a lot better shape this season than in seasons past, looked like he dropped some weight and I had hopes that would increase his mobility, which was, and continues to be an issue for him. I initially attributed some of his struggles keeping up with the play to his physical conditioning, but I now realize that wasn't the only culprit. He doesn't read the play as well as others, and that coupled with his lack of mobility puts him in bad spots and creates far too many scoring opportunities for the opponent. If we had a true #1 shut down D-man, you could pair them together and cover his shortcomings. Without that, he's a bit of a liability.

I don't want to put it all on him. But the point about not having a true #1 shut down D-man is very valid. RIT really hasn't replaced Ringwald or Tanev. Hopefully someone can step it up here.

2. Ruby- at some point he needs to live up to his advance billing as an elite level goaltender. I haven't seen a hint of it yet. And with the way the team is struggling it could really use a goalie to step up and help carry the team until the ship can right itself (if it can). The opportunity was there last night and he certainly didn't make much out of it.

If you take away the Union game last year, I thought he played quite well last year in his games. I do think he was fighting the puck more after the first period. Perhaps it was a confidence thing after Michigan banged home all those goals in the 3rd period against him. I think the jury is still out on him.

3. Leadership- its clear this team doesn't have much leadership. (and if it does, the rest of the team apparently doesn't give a ****). There is no passion, no fire. There is no one you look out at on the ice and say "that guy is the face of our team". It's sorely lacking and becoming a glaring issue. When you have to put an A on a soph., you may have some chemistry issues.

I don't think that putting an A on a sophomore is a bad thing necessarily. I thought Garbo would get an A at least next year, so why not now. It is a fair point about who is going to be "the guy". I don't know who that is right now.

4. Coaching- Once again, preparation seemed lacking. And there was a glaring lack of adjustment to the in game adjustments Robert Morris made. This trend is disturbing. Maybe the coaching staff is preparing them but the talent can't carry it out on the ice, but the lack of in game adjustments is concerning.

I didn't really notice any change in how Robert Morris played, unless you consider that they took advantage of defensive breakdowns. I would like to know what you would have tried. I trust that Coach Wilson knows better than anyone else on this message board what players can and cannot do and is trying to put players in a position to succeed.

5. Time for Maclean. Why not. Nothing to lose at this point. After all OOC games don't matter, or so I've been told over and over again by certain parties....

Unless they are trying to redshirt Maclean - than I think we could be seeing him soon. (AIC?)

 

[RIT Winters]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Looking at these years October record and years past its looking pretty similar. Now in some of those years there was some strong AHA wins but really RIT just normally starts slow. The frozen four year those two AHA losses where against Air Force. And this year Air Force has yet to win a game and lost to a Canadian school. Serratore must be losing his mind

2012-2013
1-3-0 0-1-0
1 game to go (NC)

2011-2012
1-3-1 0-2-1

2010-2011
2-4-1 1-0-0

2009-2010*
2-5-0 2-2-0

2008-2010
2-4-1 1-1-1

*= frozen four year

This is no longer a valid excuse. Until last year, it was okay to have a slow start because we were going to finish at the top. Only Air Force could match us, realistically. Last year we saw that all change. The league is more competitive now. No longer can we stay on the bus in October and still expect to waltz into a bye come playoff time. Two points lost against a conference opponent in October could very easily mean a tumbling of 2 or 3 ranks at the end of the year.

 

[LtPowers]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Exactly. RoMo is a good team, it's not the end of the world that we lost to them.

It's not so much the loss that concerns me but the giving up of an early 2- and a late 1-goal leads. Neither of those happens very often at the Ritter, and both of them happened last night.


Powers &8^]

 

[Loki]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

I couldnt be more impressed with the student body . They had fun and had many chants but they lacked venom.

HAHA Thank you so much for this Quote!! The Corner Crew think they are a big vicious force, but they are really just a dancing puppet of the administration. Apparently old cats can't learn new tricks either.

 

[mar7967]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Tigers up 2-0 early, with a goal from Smith at 1:11 and Noyes at 2:22

 

[LtPowers]

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

they are really just a dancing puppet of the administration.

What the hell does this mean?


Powers &8^]