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>>>>> RIT TIGERS 2012-2013 - Locked, Loaded, And Ready To Roar <<<<<

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Today's game has got to be one of the best ties in RIT history (I say somewhat sarcastically). It had all the signs of being another beat down early on. If nothing else, it shows this team has not quit, by any means. As coach Wilson said in the post game; "maybe" we've hit bottom as a team, and now we are on the way up. Unfortunately, we have a relatively difficult game against Clarkson coming up so we really need to show improvement just to be competitive.
 
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Hate to disagree with Wayne but I think holding on to that late one goal leader would have been heading in the right direction. I think Wilson is just trying to stay postive at this point. The talent on the team I still like and agree with him is there. This team all most gave up 80 shots on the weekend. Outshoot 78-59. Some men who I value their opinion have pointed to the save percentages of this years crop of RIT goaltenders versus Mads last season. Going off just the stats you can say RIT may be giving up 2 goals less a game, but I think thats a stretch. No disrespect but I don't think even Mads would be saving the Tigers tail at this point (But I will say this, I sure would have like to seen Shane tried, it would have been fun). If there was soft goals going in left and right would be one thing, but most that they have given up has been in my view have been solid goals. Some may point to the goaltenders needing to make a more big time saves, but that is asking a lot of a goaltender and I just think there is way too much talent on this team to ask that. And if your going to ask him to do that give them some help, which the Togers have not done all season. How do you expect a goaltender to get any kind of confidence when he is facing 40 shots a game and has 3 or 4 shots a game he can do nothing about??

I think you give Ruby a shot against Clarkson. If he has the same kind of result I think you give Watson the start against Air Force and if he plays well then you ride him, you have two against Sacred Heart after that can help build confidence. What should make everyone mad is that this team is better than what they have put up, I think we all agree here. If they can right the ship they will have a shot in the second half. Friday night I watch Canisius out play Niagara for 3 periods, they did not get rewarded, but I tell you if you watch Niagara they don't scare me. RIT has to get their game together and they have a shot, but I have no idea where the heads are in that room right now...
 
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This team all most gave up 80 shots on the weekend. Out-shot 78-59... How do you expect a goaltender to get any kind of confidence when he is facing 40 shots a game and has 3 or 4 shots a game he can do nothing about??
Those shot totals by H.C. are pretty startling. You're right, that's an awful lot of shots for our low confidence goaltenders to face. Of course other teams know our goaltending is shaky. I'm sure they are just trying to throw as much rubber at the goal as they can because the odds of scoring are definitely in their favor. Other teams are in a feeding frenzy to score against us now.

What should make everyone mad is that this team is better than what they have put up, I think we all agree here...
To be honest, I'm not so sure about this. As Bill Parcells famously said: "You are what your record says you are..." (in response to the question of weather his team was better than their record). I know we all want to believe we are better than our record and our performances, but that remains to be seen. I think we probably are better than recent results indicate because we do have a lot of new players (and players filling the skates of key departed players) who should get better with some fundamental improvements and experience. Although you could argue that our competition will get better with experience too. I don't mean to sound negative, I just don't think it helps to think that we are better than we are currently. Maybe our team thinks they are better than they actually are because in seasons past we have been better, a lot better. It remains to be seen if we are going to get better and how much better. This might be the "new normal", at least for this season...
 
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The Clarkson game is poorly timed. The Tigers would certainly like to build some momentum tonight and it would be ideal for Watson to finally string together some starts and build chemistry with his defense. I'll be surprised if he gets an OOC start though, and although Clarkson has struggled with AHA teams so far this year, I'd much prefer more of a softball.

If Watson does start on Friday, I think that's a clear indication we're riding him to the end.
 
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I'm sorry but it's time to stop the platooning of the goalie position and put Watson in for the rest of the season. All three goalies had their chance this weekend and only Watson was able to keep the Tigers in the game. If it wasn't for his play, especially in OT, the team would have walked away with a loss. If you look at the games so far this season, he's been the one goalie that's played well enough to make it a match out of it. You want to give him confidence, then put him in against Clarkson and give the team a chance to win the game.

It's also time to stop comparing Watson, Ruby or Maclean to Demichiel and Madolora. They are gone and wishing them back is not going to make this team better.


This team played well yesterday against a very good HC team which has some speed, pass well and hustled the entire game.
The Tigers stayed up with them the entire time and if not for a defensive let-down for HC's third goal, would have walked away with the win.

As far as RIT fans at the games, Saturday had a good crowd but it was cut in half on Sunday and the tigers side was filled in with HC students. If you were listening and heard a loud crowd roar when the Tigers took the lead, that came from the bench.

These guys haven't given up and I don't think the fans should either.
 
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What should make everyone mad is that this team is better than what they have put up, I think we all agree here.

I have to disagree here. I am not sure this team is appreciably better than their record. Its a third of the way through the season and RIT has 2 wins. Its not early anymore. At this point all teams should be hitting their stride.

Maybe what we are seeing on the ice is just what this team is. I would like to think they are better but so far I'm not seeing it.

If they can right the ship they will have a shot in the second half.

The good side it that there is time left with lots of conference games left so all is not lost. Beating the teams they should beat would be a step in the right direction.


Maybe the Clarkson game comes at a good time. There is nothing to lose at this point. It's non-conference so just coming out and trying to piece together a solid shift/period/game in which RIT plays the type of game they want to woud be a start in the right direction. And it's not like Clarkson is exactly a great team this season.
 
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I'm sorry but it's time to stop the platooning of the goalie position and put Watson in for the rest of the season. All three goalies had their chance this weekend and only Watson was able to keep the Tigers in the game. If it wasn't for his play, especially in OT, the team would have walked away with a loss. If you look at the games so far this season, he's been the one goalie that's played well enough to make it a match out of it. You want to give him confidence, then put him in against Clarkson and give the team a chance to win the game.

It's also time to stop comparing Watson, Ruby or Maclean to Demichiel and Madolora. They are gone and wishing them back is not going to make this team better.


This team played well yesterday against a very good HC team which has some speed, pass well and hustled the entire game.
The Tigers stayed up with them the entire time and if not for a defensive let-down for HC's third goal, would have walked away with the win.

As far as RIT fans at the games, Saturday had a good crowd but it was cut in half on Sunday and the tigers side was filled in with HC students. If you were listening and heard a loud crowd roar when the Tigers took the lead, that came from the bench.

These guys haven't given up and I don't think the fans should either.

Agreed with that last line, let's just continue to be supportive to these guys. At this point, they already know all of the criticisms and issues and while it certainly is an open forum to vent frustrations and disappointment it overall doesn't really help the team. What can help, even just a small amount, is continuing to show your support through the tough times. I believe there is a cetain amount of positive energy that can be absorbed and they need all of that right now!
 
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Agreed with that last line, let's just continue to be supportive to these guys. At this point, they already know all of the criticisms and issues and while it certainly is an open forum to vent frustrations and disappointment it overall doesn't really help the team. What can help, even just a small amount, is continuing to show your support through the tough times. I believe there is a cetain amount of positive energy that can be absorbed and they need all of that right now!

Clarkson's a sellout. Five days in advance. The day after Thanksgiving. How's that?

(Now I'm just hoping that there isn't a huge convoy of buses making the trip down from the North Country.)


Powers &8^]
 
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Clarkson's a sellout. Five days in advance. The day after Thanksgiving. How's that?

(Now I'm just hoping that there isn't a huge convoy of buses making the trip down from the North Country.)


Powers &8^]

Shocked to hear that, although I recall last years Black Friday game also sold out. Looking forward to watching the game downstate!
 
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A few thoughts about this year's results:
I won't even comment on effort, desire, heart, or the like. Only the players and coaches truly know themselves how hard they are trying.
First for the offense: I will still stand by my estimation earlier this season that the 2011-12 team as well as this 2012-13 team just do not have any natural goal scorers, snipers, or a # 1 line, which is a serious deficiency. The team still has talented players and a good offensive strategy / style that keeps the puck in the opponents' end a fair amount and generates plenty of possession time and shots on goal. The problem seems (to me, at least) to be that without that # 1 line or without the guys you can rely on to put up a point or two per game, all four lines of good (but not great) players have that much more pressure on them and have to face the opposing # 1 defense pairing much more often. Yes, the players and lines on this team can score goals and do at a fair pace, I believe that to be a bit misleading. When push comes to shove and they really really need a goal, the opponents know that most of RIT's goals come from in close ("garbage goals" to some). So if they just defend the crease and slot area like their lives depend on it, they're much less likely to give up goals to the Tigers. That and RIT does not have that "go-to" line that can take charge and tie a game or take a lead late in a contest (i.e. Lambert/Smith or Brenner/Favot). This observation really stands out to me every time I've seen this team play last year and this because in all the years I've been watching RIT hockey, I don't think I've seen a team that didn't have that type of player or line on it.
As far as the defense: Let's be honest, the aggressive physical and offensive type of style the Tigers play (and have been playing for most of the last 20+ years) lends itself to odd-man rushes and the occasional defensive let-down. There have been a few real good RIT teams that played quality "team-defense" (1988-89, 2009-10, as two examples), but more often than not, the success of RIT on the defensive end has mostly relied on spectacular goaltending (IMHO). Looking back at the runs of success I have witnessed, the team had a fantastic goalie saving the offensive-minded team's bacon... Abraham, Morris, Euverman, Guimond, DiMichiel, Madalora. When they have had good but not great goalies, the records have levelled off and even gone down (not counting 2005-06, of course). As far as the difference between the 2011-12 team and the 2012-13 team, most of what I can see is primarily that Madalora is gone. We've been fortunate in the past that RIT has had young goaltenders step right in in place of quality veterans and not miss a beat, but that can be unreasonable to expect that to happen every time they graduate such a superstar in net. Although Watson has been here a while, neither he nor Ruby (nor MacLean, of course) have played nearly enough to warrant such expectations... yet.
So, IMHO, until one or more of RIT's goaltenders steps up and becomes a bonafide starter amongst the best in AHA and until the staff can find a couple go-to scorers to field a true # 1 line, I don't think this team is going very far.
That being said, I still can't imagine even this team finishing in the bottom half of this league. Some of the close tough losses so far this early season could be quite costly, but there is a long way to go. We'll have to see how it all shakes out. Just as was posted earlier, if the Tigers put something together in late February / early March and get themselves to the BCA, you just never know.
As far as Niagara goes, I haven't seen any of their games. However, I am already intimidated by them. I don't care how good their offense or defense are. They have a goalie that is as hot as they come. 5 shutouts and a 0.99 save percentage? Yikes!
 
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First for the offense: I will still stand by my estimation earlier this season that the 2011-12 team as well as this 2012-13 team just do not have any natural goal scorers, snipers, or a # 1 line, which is a serious deficiency... That and RIT does not have that "go-to" line that can take charge and tie a game or take a lead late in a contest (i.e. Lambert/Smith or Brenner/Favot). This observation really stands out to me every time I've seen this team play last year and this because in all the years I've been watching RIT hockey, I don't think I've seen a team that didn't have that type of player or line on it.

TigerFan, I think your summary is really insightful. It's great to hear from someone with who has an historic perspective on the team. The only thing I would add regarding the offense is that IMO I think we do have a #1 line, but we only see it on powerplays so far. I think the Garbowski, Colavecchia, A. Mitchell line is very worthy of the #1 line designation. Add Saracino at the blue line and that is definitely a group with speed, sniping and overall scoring ability. Our new-found powerplay success this year speaks to this line's potential. Though for some reason, that group hasn't been an official starting line. If I had to speculate as to why it isn't a starting line, it "might" be because with all those guys on one line our offense gets rather thin on the other lines - which speaks to your point. Coach is willing to put them together when we have the powerplay advantage, but otherwise it might be like putting all our eggs in one basket. We definitely have other good offensive players (like Smith, etc.) but maybe coach Wilson wants to spread out the scoring talent a little. A few guys that I thought would really be having breakout years (Potts and McGowan come to mind) have thus far struggled to get on the scoreboard up to this point. We need these guys to start getting hot. We also need some freshmen to start taking up some of the offensive slack (not to be confused with offensive slacks, like my dad used to wear).
 
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TigerFan, I think your summary is really insightful. It's great to hear from someone with who has an historic perspective on the team. The only thing I would add regarding the offense is that IMO I think we do have a #1 line, but we only see it on powerplays so far. I think the Garbowski, Colavecchia, A. Mitchell line is very worthy of the #1 line designation. Add Saracino at the blue line and that is definitely a group with speed, sniping and overall scoring ability. Our new-found powerplay success this year speaks to this line's potential. Though for some reason, that group hasn't been an official starting line. If I had to speculate as to why it isn't a starting line, it "might" be because with all those guys on one line our offense gets rather thin on the other lines - which speaks to your point. Coach is willing to put them together when we have the powerplay advantage, but otherwise it might be like putting all our eggs in one basket. We definitely have other good offensive players (like Smith, etc.) but maybe coach Wilson wants to spread out the scoring talent a little. A few guys that I thought would really be having breakout years (Potts and McGowan come to mind) have thus far struggled to get on the scoreboard up to this point. We need these guys to start getting hot. We also need some freshmen to start taking up some of the offensive slack (not to be confused with offensive slacks, like my dad used to wear).

I'm thinking you could be right about how the coaching has handled our three or four best offensive talents this year. Those are the guys that have been a bit frustrating to so many of us at times over the last couple years. They've all shown us their talents, abilities, and skills at times. But it comes in fits and starts, due I'm sure to many factors such as injuries, lineup choices by the coaches, etc. Us fans have been waiting for that next set of big-time scorers to fill the void since last season started (and even back to the last half of Brenner's and Favot's last season), that whenever one of these guys gets hot and tallies a couple goals in a weekend, we all get excited hoping he'll be one of the offensive leaders. Mitchell, Hartley, Garbowski, McGowan, Potts, Colavechia, et. al. have all taken their turns being touted as the next Brenner, the next Favot, the next Smith, etc. ... at least on these boards, that is. No single or combination of forwards has stepped up (for whatever reasons) to get and keep the "go-to" label, or at least so it appears. If spreading the offense out amongst all the lines works as the coaches may be hoping, we just have to hope the goaltending comes around sooner than later. I know RIT has always, especially under Wilson, tried to roll four lines and get contributions from all of them. However, at least one of them has more often than not stood out due not only to their skills, but also to that intangible that all the best have that just makes them a cut above and demand special attention from the opponents.
 
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Shocked to hear that, although I recall last years Black Friday game also sold out. Looking forward to watching the game downstate!

I was able to purchase a ticket the day of the game, though. Plus, CCT isn't doing all that hot this year (of course neither were we at the time), but they are another one of the well-travelling ECAC members. You should see a decent visitor's crowd.
 
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Tonight on ESPN sportscenter , top 10 david vs goliath upsets - #9, the 4th seed RIT Upsets Denver and UNH to make frozen four. Showed Burt's goal vs Denver and one from UNH I didnt quite catch from clip. Ahhhh the sweet memories! Holy cross over Minnesota got 7 as a side note.
 
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'for the offense: I will still stand by my estimation earlier this season that the 2011-12 team as well as this 2012-13 team just do not have any natural goal scorers, snipers, or a # 1 line, which is a serious deficiency."

Not to pick on you, but these are comments I read on the board that makes me wonder if I am watching the same game as everyone else. I am really confused given that this year RIT has 3 guys in the top 10 of point getters. They have 2 players in the top ten for goal scouring. Compare to last year team they have scored 41 goals compare to 30 last year. That’s all most a goal and half more a game. And overall they score the 4th most goals in the league. BTW, this despite the leader goal scorer from last year missing half the games they’ve played so far. So we are going to complain that we have all these points, but they don’t come from just one line. I really think us RIT fans are starting to invent our own traumas…

The other side of it is having goaltending numbers with the 8th and 15th ranked goaltenders in goals against average and 13th and dead last in save percentage. I do not blame it all on goaltending, seems to be in the minority here too. Despite the horrible save percentage numbers, RIT as a team has the 4th most saves of any teams in the AHA. Does it take a mathematic degree is figure out why???
 
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Tonight on ESPN sportscenter , top 10 david vs goliath upsets - #9, the 4th seed RIT Upsets Denver and UNH to make frozen four. Showed Burt's goal vs Denver and one from UNH I didnt quite catch from clip. Ahhhh the sweet memories! Holy cross over Minnesota got 7 as a side note.

I hope there's a link for this somewhere!
 
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2 more recruits for RIT hockey today... (a total of 4 replacing the 3 graduating seniors)

Michael Holland, Defenseman. 6'1" 190 lbs - http://ushl2011.stats.pointstreak.com/playerpage.html?playerid=4253277&seasonid=5967 - Think he was Kuqali's linemate last year with the Sioux City Musketeers of the USHL - @MHolland_7
Danny Smith, Left Winger. 5'11" 185 lbs - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=58784 - Looks to be a big time scorer - @DannySmith_

This adds to LW Todd Skirving and Defensemen Alexandre Perron-Fontaine

Found the following article on Danny Smith, he had a scholarship offer from Alaska-Anchorage ...

http://www.sherwoodparkcrusaders.ca/media-centre/news-archives.html?newsID=1795

And one for Todd Skirving - http://www.sfstampede.com/news_article/show/193255?referrer_id=627591-news
 
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