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>>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

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If we do win the tournament, think we have any chance at all of cracking into the top 20? Beating #11 and #16 on the road in a weekend seems like it should speak volumes.

I was wondering that myself. Not sure about top 20, but maybe pretty dang close.
 
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I find it extremely hard to believe that hypothetically, if an Atlantic Hockey team goes 7-0-0 out of conference (against mid to high level OOC teams) and wins the regular season title in Atlantic Hockey that they would miss the NCAA tournament if they got upset in the AH playoffs. Such a team would have an advantage in common opponents against any team from a conference they played against, and if they got to 10 games against teams against consideration they could win pairwise comparisions against teams above them in RPI.

It basically would have happen a few years ago. Air Force had a very strong season, and had a win and a tie vs CC and Denver (can't recall which way it was). RIT was right on their tail. I remember we were punching the numbers come tourny time to see if there was a chance both teams could go and basically it turned out that each team would have to win the AHA Tourament to make the top 16 which made it a moot point...
 
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I think (ok, I know) that you missed my point. I wasn't debating the value of non-conference games. In general I agree with your point on those. My point was that in comparing the team's record this season to seasons past, one needs to account for the fact that in seasons past they had played far more non-conference games by now. So in order to compare how good one may judge this team to be relative to the last few seasons at the break, that must be considered. The mid-to-late-season winning streaks happened once the Tigers got into conference play exclusively. This season, they've already played almost half of the conference schedule and have not fared as well as the last few years, especially on the road. Let's wait until the nc's are completed in just over a week and see how the record compares. If they were to get swept and fall to 8-10-2, that would be somewhat disappointing regardless of your point of view.

No I got your point and I agree it’s actually a truth, but we are looking at the big picture differently. If you look at the pure make up of last year team vs this year, and you look at the nuts and bolts and the intangibles of each team I think this year team is not as good overall as last. They are missing consistent scorer, however the blue line is much better, Goaltending is about the same, which is not a stab at Mads, I am not sure you can really ask for more than what he gave last year. In the end I do not think this is a bad thing or means the program is moving in the wrong direction.

I think it’s really a philosophy difference between the two sides here on how to look at if the program is improving or not. One side seems to black & white and goes off win & loss record. The side which seems to correspond more with my thinking that the overall record doesn’t necessarily correlate to if the program is moving in the right direction or not.

How do you judge a sport organization? Winning would be the easiest, the biggest misquote ever is Lombardi on winning. What he was really talking about wasn’t winning, is the effort and price paid to win. Because even Lombardi knows that each year there can only be one champion. The New York Yankees have won 27 World Series. They also failed to win about 80 other World Series that have been played. Only one team wins each year, which is why it is so special.
I think as long as the program is growing, RIT is in great shape, and there is no doubt they are growing. The Ultimate goal should be a National Championship. I am not willing to put a time table on it, there are still big waves of change in college hockey. Given the new arena and a possibility of going to the ECACs is very exciting times for Tigers fans. Again, given what this program has already achieve so soon is amazing and I find it extremely frustrating that some seem to think this program has under achieved in some way.

As I said non-conference games are basically meaningless, but do feel good to get a win like that yesterday. This team can play with any other team out there. So just like a few years if they make the NCAAs anything can and usually does happen.
 
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It basically would have happen a few years ago. Air Force had a very strong season, and had a win and a tie vs CC and Denver (can't recall which way it was). RIT was right on their tail. I remember we were punching the numbers come tourny time to see if there was a chance both teams could go and basically it turned out that each team would have to win the AHA Tourament to make the top 16 which made it a moot point...

Air Force has never tied and beaten Denver/Colorado College in the same year (at least since RIT joined D1). In 08-09 they split against the pair of them and went 3-3 overall non-conference, with both other wins against a CHA school (Bejimidi State) which won't help much in common opponents. RIT was awful out of conference that year. The only other year I could find that AF beat one or the other of CC/Denver is 07-08 when they lost badly to BC, tied Minnesota, beat QU twice, beat DU, and lost to CC. They were also 3rd in Atlantic Hockey that year. I totally agree that .500 out of conference won't get it done (unless it's an extremely high quality OOC schedule and a dominant AH campaign).

But that's not the hypothetical situation I laid out. If AF was close to qualifying with a 3-2-1 OOC record in 07-08 (to go along with a 3rd place finish in AH) or a 3-3-0 record in 08-09 (to go along with a split regular season AH title), it stands to reason that even a 4-1-1 or 5-2 OOC record against good opponents with a great Atlantic Hockey campaign would put a team squarely in the mix.
 
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Re: >>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

RIT leads 1-0 after 20 minutes of play. Goal came from Lynch. RIT had another incredible opportunity on a 2-1 breakaway but their goalie made a great save. Play was back and forth, but RIT is definitely playing very well again today.
 
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WITR announced OOC games for next season: Penn State @ BCA (Brick City Weekend); Clarkson @ The RITTER; 1 @ Colgate, 2 @ St. Lawrence, 2 @ Michigan, and on New Years' Weekend we'll play 2 BCHL Opponents.
 
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Good 2nd period to extend their lead to 3-1, but LSSU isn't about to give up easily. They'll really need to battle to hold them off in the 3rd.
 
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It hasn't been mentioned yet and frankly I didn't notice until just now..

Josh Watson is in net today.

RIT still leads 3-1 with 11 minutes left. This is definitely the best I've ever seen Watson play, good enough to fool me into thinking it was Shane. The decision to play him seems like a ballsy one by Wilson, but it appears to be working out.
 
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It hasn't been mentioned yet and frankly I didn't notice until just now..

Josh Watson is in net today.

RIT still leads 3-1 with 11 minutes left. This is definitely the best I've ever seen Watson play, good enough to fool me into thinking it was Shane. The decision to play him seems like a ballsy one by Wilson, but it appears to be working out.

Yeah, Wilson said that he'd use the opportunity to try out other goalies. Watson has done a nice job so far, but also, RIT has played excellent defense and prevented some high-quality shots.

That being said, RIT is lucky to be so deep in net.
 
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Wow, how did RIT win this whole tourney? Great, great job. Now we need to handle our business in the AHA.
 
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Re: >>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

RIT won the Catamount Cup after beat ranked team twice. HOW SWEET IT IS!
 
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Wow, how did RIT win this whole tourney? Great, great job. Now we need to handle our business in the AHA.

I think we were the least expected to win out of the 4 teams, and yet we went 2-0 and outscored opponents 6-1. Simply amazing hockey. I hope we bring this mojo to Wisconsin and more importantly, back into conference games.
 
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Tigers 3 - LSSU 1

So do we still suck????

Definitely sounds like the most solid weekend of hockey in almost 2 years.

Sure makes the first half all the more frustrating......
 
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Re: >>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

WITR announced OOC games for next season: Penn State @ BCA (Brick City Weekend); Clarkson @ The RITTER; 1 @ Colgate, 2 @ St. Lawrence, 2 @ Michigan, and on New Years' Weekend we'll play 2 BCHL Opponents.

Wish we could have got more diversity in conferences. Definately like the Michigan games. the BCHL games will be a good test. Colgate = Turning Stone :)
 
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Congrats! What a weekend! Knocked off #'s 11 and 16. I will always respect your program because I sat and watched you upset us in person at the NCAA's in Albany two years ago. We have Union tonight at home and then AF at Cadet Ice Arena tomorrow (love that rink!). Heading to both. I also enjoy seeing AHC refs work--they are better than WCHA--but then again everyone but HE is. Good luck the rest of the way.
 
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Congrats! What a weekend! Knocked off #'s 11 and 16. I will always respect your program because I sat and watched you upset us in person at the NCAA's in Albany two years ago. We have Union tonight at home and then AF at Cadet Ice Arena tomorrow (love that rink!). Heading to both. I also enjoy seeing AHC refs work--they are better than WCHA--but then again everyone but HE is. Good luck the rest of the way.

This amuses me because everyone in the AHA considers our refs to be awful, and our radio guys were giving high praise to the Hockey East ones during Thursday's game.
 
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Re: >>>>> RIT Tigers 2011-2012 <<<<< Dreaming is Done, Time to ROAR

This amuses me because everyone in the AHA considers our refs to be awful, and our radio guys were giving high praise to the Hockey East ones during Thursday's game.

I particularly liked how quickly the linesmen dropped the puck after a whistle. No screwing around, no letting the visiting team change, no diddling with the puck drop. Yesterday's game was under 2 hours.
 
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