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RIT (aka Team Canada)

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Hey everybody,

Did you know they even let these Canadian born people coach American college hockey?

I for one am glad that Red Berenson made the trip from Saskatchewan and told his Canadian friends that "Michigan is the place to be".


Hey, while we're at it, can we start kicking foreigners off pro teams? I mean it's the National Basketball Association, not the International Basketball Association. For that matter, why are there Canadian teams? And why have the Montreal Canadiens stolen Americans for their teams?


Get the foreigners out of our schools and sports or else the terrorists win!
 
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Okay, so primarily being a fan of DIII Hockey, I feel it necessary to give my $0.02 on this issue.

When I look at RIT's roster, I see all the characteristics of a DIII roster, just with a lot more talent crammed onto it. A lot of small guys, a lot of older guys, and a lot of foreign guys. Typical of DIII. The small and old part is simple enough to explain: The guys wait a year or two to see if they can make a DI team, and when they finally realize that they can't is when they commit to a DIII school. Generally the reason they con't it because they're only 5'6" or some nonsense like that.

But the overload of Canadians is also typical, and for reasons that have been effectively stated in this thread. As a DIII school near Canada unable to offer Athletic Scholarships, I'm not surprised one bit to see them offer Canadian Financial Aid Packages, even if they do compete in DI. As has been said, it is something attractive, and is especially attractive because they get to keep the aid even if they don't make the team. It also does a lot of good for the diversity on campus. Two DIII school (Buffalo State and SUNY Geneseo) got in trouble for this, and were banned from postseason play this year. Their problem wasn't that they were offering such Aid Packages, but rather that they weren't attracting enough (or any) non-athletes from Canada, causing the numbers to indicate a de facto Athletic Scholarship. This means that the onus is on the Admissions Department to attract many Canadians to their Campus to balance it out. Since RIT is still mandated to follow all DIII rules, I'd imagine they're under that same pressure.

That means there are a lot of Canadians on Campus... and isn't happy about our collegiate institutions introducing the intellectual Canadian youth to our (much better) American ways? They'll fit in much more when Canada finally admits that it's really a US state. :p
 
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theprofromdover said:
Hokiedope has a problem with facts, perceived negativity and logic.
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Easy never been, hate to get Stan from Robins auto parts to come over there and scold you....

21 year old freshmen are fine, 22/23 is pushing it but in fairness, they are a product of the D1 hockey today. They have to take teh over age kids from juniors as the younger ones hook up with the BC/BU's of the world
 
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kingdobbs said:
UConn, for some strange reason, does not recruit much in its home state.

Hell, there was a kid playing for AIC that came from the very town in which UConn is located (and who played high school hockey for the regional high school, in UConn's own arena).
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Strange? I understand it.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
We're playing them next and I don't have a problem with it.

If a Canadian is walking down the street can you even pick him out? Who cares?
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Cowboy boots and a suit?.... all kidding aside, all teams recruit who they want.. I also have no problem with the make up of any team.
 
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CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
The small and old part is simple enough to explain: The guys wait a year or two to see if they can make a DI team, and when they finally realize that they can't is when they commit to a DIII school. Generally the reason they con't it because they're only 5'6" or some nonsense like that.
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To some degree. I know someone locally who was recruited by two other AHA teams. They basically told him that if he wanted to play for them, he needed to spend a year or two in juniors. He wasn't interested in going that route, so he'll play for a DIII school next year (and a good one at that), as they'll take him at 18 instead of 20.

But, obviously, the blue chip prospects are happily taken by top teams at 18. So kids that are coming in at 20 are doing so because that was the path teams felt they needed to go to build skill, strength, etc. And, because of them being relatively "old" by NHL prospect standards, a path to the NHL (or AHL) is unlikely regardless of how good they become.

Of course, guys like Ringwald and DeMichiel might be exceptions thanks to the show they've both put on under the spotlight.
 
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Canadian Juniors = Import rule allows only 6 or 8 on a team and that includes players from other Provinces coming into another Province to play, as well as, USA players.
CHL = No limit to how many USA players can be on a team?
USHL= Only 2 non-USA born players.
NAHL= Only 2 non-USA born players.
Canadian University = No limit based on citizenship and much older players. Former NHLer Mike Danton at 30+ years is on the championship team this year. Championship game in Thunderbay and less than 5,000 in attendance. No TV games for CIS in Canada until the end of the season.
For the most part, much cheaper for Canadian players to go to school in Canada, since most NCAA Scholarships they are paying some of the costs anyway.
Hockey Canada does not like and trys to prevent Midget aged players going into the USA to play. Except when it comes to Female players.
Vernon Vipers on the way to maybe another RBC championship again this year and they have how many USA born players again.
Have you ever been to a Canadian University game? On average, most DII hockey games would have more peopel in the stands and a way more atmosphere in the building.
Many Canadian born players in Junior leagues have been dreaming of playing NCAA hockey since they were 12 years old. Not Baseball. Not Basketball. Not football. Canadians boys grow up loving hockey like USA boys grow up loving Baseball, Football, and Basketball.
Very few NCAA schools will take 18 year old Canadian Midget players. For the most part, they are told to play junior first.
Just some other thoughts.
 
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Wow Can't believe this is even a conversation to be honest altough there are some very good post it is a wash. I suppose of UA would have beat BC someone would have said but they have to many players from North of the Lower 48 boarder even though one of them was the youngest Senior in the Nation playing D-1 Hockey.

They are hockey players, there is a process in place it has been developing for years the system is used by every team more some than others.

I suppose it would be a fine subject if in fact some schools were not allowed to use certain players but to the best of my knowledge all programs have equal rights concerning obtaining players. Certain programs choose to recruit heavily out of the USHL and NTDP some programs can't even get those kids to look their way.

Sorry Rambling Rambling Rambling!
 
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