RIT 2010-11: What do Tigers dream of?

[cplinford]

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This also seems to the first weekend where Burt and Hartley were replaced on the first power play unit with Lynch and Noyes. I wasn't thrilled with the move. To me Noyes just looks very tentative out there and not an offensive defenseman. I have noticed coach Wilson put him out several times in more offensive type roles and I guess I just don't see it

 

[dpm105]

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This also seems to the first weekend where Burt and Hartley were replaced on the first power play unit with Lynch and Noyes. I wasn't thrilled with the move. To me Noyes just looks very tentative out there and not an offensive defenseman. I have noticed coach Wilson put him out several times in more offensive type roles and I guess I just don't see it

I would agree, but I thought Noyes had a few good shifts.

I think we do need to shake things up a bit on special teams. It seems like we are getting better shifts/chances out of the pk guys than the powerplay. I have been getting very frustrated with our offensive play this season. We try to make way too much happen below the goal line when there is really nothign available. I would rather see us try to generate a little offense by swinging the puck around the blue line a bit more. I think we really need to start moving things east to west from the point, we keep trying to generate that movement from below the goal, which has worked for Tiger teams in the past, but it just doesn't seem to be clicking this year. Gone are the tic - tac- toe powerplays of last year's team.

Burt doesn't help with that. He has been extremely frustrating to watch this year. Every shift seems to end with him turning over the puck. I am getting sick of him "mailing it in" night after night and would really like to see him start to put in some solid effort. His assists are still there this year, but he is not scoring as much. I think if he starts to dish the puck a bit more, he will find himself with more oppourtunities to recieve a pass in a scoring position, tough to score when you are getting beat off the puck all night at the Half Boards.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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You forgot to include time to drink some beer!!!

We can drink all the beer we want while all this is going on. We're not playing the games.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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This also seems to the first weekend where Burt and Hartley were replaced on the first power play unit with Lynch and Noyes. I wasn't thrilled with the move. To me Noyes just looks very tentative out there and not an offensive defenseman. I have noticed coach Wilson put him out several times in more offensive type roles and I guess I just don't see it

Why would this move bother anyone? The RIT power play has been lethargic at best, horribly bad at its worst. The PK has definitely picked up its game in recent weeks, but the PP still basically stinks. Even when they get a PP goal, it's usually less due to the fact that they had a man advantage and more just "one of those things" kind of goals. There was one PP on Saturday where RIT possessed the puck in the MC zone for somewhere around 1:40 or 1:50 consecutively of the 2 minutes without actually generating a single shot on goal (and they didn't even take any that were blocked, either). It's one thing when the other team forechecks you to death so you can't get your PP offense set up. It's yet another to actually have it set up and do absolutely nothing with it. If they don't do something about the PP, this team will not be returning to the NCAA's.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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I don't agree at all. Mercyhurst was frankly the team that started gooning it up once the Tigers got up 3-1 by roughing up Favot along the boards. (Wilson even took a veiled shot at them in the post game interviews on TWCS), and the Tigers lost their discipline a bit. But they did not deserve to be two men short multiple times in that 3rd period. There were some ticky tack penalties to say the least.

As long as you're going to bring Coach Wilson into it... He did say on the radio post-game that he had no issues with the officiating in this game and that all those penalties were just stupid penalties that our guys should know better than to take (paraphrasing). So say what you will about the AHA officials and other games in the past, but this game was decided by RIT's lack of discipline. The officials aren't the only reason that RIT leads the nation in penalty minutes per game. Everyone in this conference has to deal with the poor AHA officiating. The Tigers have made a deep-rooted reputation for themselves in just 5 1/2 years in D-I (that to be honest, may as well have carried over from D-III), which I'm sure contributes to a number of "questionable" and or "ticky-tack" calls against them. But to be honest, more often than not IMHO, they deserve a large majority of the calls they get. It's very frustrating to watch and makes you want to be mad at someone (i.e. the refs or the other team), but it's usually their own fault. Many of the Tigers' opponents know full well that if they want to get some free PP's, it isn't too difficult to get them. RIT's guys are relatively easily suckered into the retaliation / frustration penalties and the officials are looking for them to do it. They NEED to work on the discipline and try to dig themselves out of this penalty downward spiral they're on.

 

[cplinford]

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Why would this move bother anyone? The RIT power play has been lethargic at best, horribly bad at its worst. The PK has definitely picked up its game in recent weeks, but the PP still basically stinks. Even when they get a PP goal, it's usually less due to the fact that they had a man advantage and more just "one of those things" kind of goals. There was one PP on Saturday where RIT possessed the puck in the MC zone for somewhere around 1:40 or 1:50 consecutively of the 2 minutes without actually generating a single shot on goal (and they didn't even take any that were blocked, either). It's one thing when the other team forechecks you to death so you can't get your PP offense set up. It's yet another to actually have it set up and do absolutely nothing with it. If they don't do something about the PP, this team will not be returning to the NCAA's.

Because it the made power play far worse and not better (imo). The general point being Noyes is not an offense minded defenseman, that I have seen, and was far too tentative on the point.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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Lest anyone think I'm all about the negative stuff...
I give this team and coaching staff tons of credit for remaining 4 points out in front despite a few reasons why one would expect them to not be in such a position. Despite this being a "re-building" season of sorts, the fact that the AHA (West pod, at least) is much tougher than it was last year, a lack of a power play, and a team that spends way too much time in the box, they've managed to continue to make everyone chase them (except possibly NU - we'll see in four weeks). Call me impressed. As long as I don't have a stroke having to watch 7 more heart-stopping games like Saturday's for the rest of the season, this is going to be a thrilling dog-fight of a finish to the season. Should be a thrill!

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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Because it the made power play far worse and not better (imo). The general point being Noyes is not an offense minded defenseman, that I have seen, and was far too tentative on the point.

But if something clearly isn't working, you've got to try SOMETHING else. It may not look to us to be the right choice, but I still go under the assumption that the coaching staff knows a little more about what these players and line combos are capable of than I do. So I'm willing to give them a little benefit of the doubt until they're proven wrong by more than just one game.

 

[komey1]

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I agree that RIT takes too many penalties. That has to stop for RIT to return to the NCAAs. Clearly right now it seems the only way they will make it is if Madolora carries them. The defense has been giving up way too many shots. The power play is pathetic. Even the offense in general isn't that great. Now that we are in Western Pod play, these games are gonna get harder. They do have 4 home games left in the regular season. This is the time for the team to step up.

 

[slewwwwwfoot!]

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Yes.

Yes, yes, yes. Couldn't agree more with anything you've said.

As far as the PP goes, that was Noyes first time on it. He's still young, maybe he just needs a little confidence. I'm glad Burt is off of it, though. Burt has been nothing but infuriating this year. He's like Alexander Semin. Capable of an awful lot, takes a lot of stupid cheapshots and penalties, really really good when he wants to be. But right now he's in a Semin-esque slump of holding on to the puck himself far too much, trying board-play, and giving up turnovers. After which he's rarely racing down the ice to help out on D.


On another note... A few weeks ago an older woman was kicked out (she was around the Corner area) after she produced a few cans of Molson from the folds of her jacket. This week, a couple ******-nozzles down in the front row apparently poured some crappy scotch into their Tim Horton's hot chocolate/coffee, were generally being obnoxious, spilt it on nearby people, and were eventually kicked out.

Haven't seen this before in the years I've been going. Bandwagon effect?

 

[cplinford]

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Burt's game has seemed to have slipped since he has been back from injury.

 

[Zyklon]

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This is really random in relation to the thread, but what does everyone think of: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41358101

I am wondering if this could mean a big donation from Golisano coming for our hockey program as with the sale he would be able to fund our hockey program bye NCAA rules I believe.

 

[blazer777]

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This is really random in relation to the thread, but what does everyone think of: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41358101

I am wondering if this could mean a big donation from Golisano coming for our hockey program as with the sale he would be able to fund our hockey program bye NCAA rules I believe.

Hmmm.....I'm thinking of a number........

Terry Pegula is worth about $3-billion and loves hockey. Recently he donated $88-million to fund a new arena to help the men's hockey program at Penn State.


Yep, that's it! Wouldn't it be nice if Mr. Golisano threw something like that at the new rink.

 

[Frozen]

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Hmmm.....I'm thinking of a number........

Terry Pegula is worth about $3-billion and loves hockey. Recently he donated $88-million to fund a new arena to help the men's hockey program at Penn State.


Yep, that's it! Wouldn't it be nice if Mr. Golisano threw something like that at the new rink.

Speaking of a new rink, any word on the fundraising we've been doing since? Wondering where we are at terms of percentage of funds risen, etc.

 

[nerdofthunder]

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Was it just me or did the locations the players took on the ice seem just plain wrong. There seemed to be too much bunching, and players were often too far north or south to be in position to make a play.

Or, I just might have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

[komey1]

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I was taking a look at some numbers and I believe the PP is where we miss Ringwald/Tanev/Mazur the most. The defensemen on the unit don't seem to be as offensive minded as in the past. Haltigan leads the D with 3 goals. Seracino and Noyes have have 2, and Descoteaux has 1. That's it. And Descoteaux, Raibl, Spivak, and Eckenswiller combine for 12 total points.

All three of the players that we lost would have more goals than what we have combined from the D. Teams can slack off the point knowing that haven't been scoring - and often not even shooting and that makes it harder on the forwards because they can't find openings down low.

 

[JRZ DVLS]

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Hmmm.....I'm thinking of a number........

Terry Pegula is worth about $3-billion and loves hockey. Recently he donated $88-million to fund a new arena to help the men's hockey program at Penn State.

Yep, that's it! Wouldn't it be nice if Mr. Golisano threw something like that at the new rink.

I said the same thing to to my wife last night about him maybe helping out RIT and it's hocky program now that he has no ties to the NHL. Since he has already puit his mark on RIT, you could imaging he may want to leave a more visual one like an arena...Gets much more publicity than a regular building. or even trying to do it through his company. Who's to say something like a named (Golisano or Shultz) arena at Paychex Place RIT or something wouldnt work out.
Dude stands to make close to $100 mil in profit off the sale.

 

[RIT Winters]

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Watching the Tigers in the attacking zone, particularly on the power play, has become increasingly painful.

As has been pointed out before, it basically goes...pass, pass, pass, pass, boardplay, pass, pass, turnover.

They seem completely unwilling to shoot unless they are in the absolute optimal position, which doesn't seem to happen very much as smart teams just crowd us out of the slot. They do manage to generate a decent amount of goals given the number of shots they take (see: Merrimack game, Mercyhurst, ect) but if they took 10-15 shots more per game, they would probably find that one extra goal they have needed 5 times now this season.

 

[slewwwwwfoot!]

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Watching the Tigers in the attacking zone, particularly on the power play, has become increasingly painful.

As has been pointed out before, it basically goes...pass, pass, pass, pass, boardplay, pass, pass, turnover.

They seem completely unwilling to shoot unless they are in the absolute optimal position, which doesn't seem to happen very much as smart teams just crowd us out of the slot. They do manage to generate a decent amount of goals given the number of shots they take (see: Merrimack game, Mercyhurst, ect) but if they took 10-15 shots more per game, they would probably find that one extra goal they have needed 5 times now this season.

I thought Mercyhurst did a very good job of this last game, clogging up the slot. We were hesitant to throw it in from the point as it would likely be blocked, but never got an opening down low. Gotta do something with it. Mix it up a bit, points from the shot will help open up room down low and vice versa.

That said, I did like Brenner - not necessarily on the PP - in that multiple times I saw him notice the puck at the point, and start fighting to the front of the net for screening and rebounds. I'm glad he's just a junior, hopefully he sticks around.

 

[Zyklon]

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That said, I did like Brenner - not necessarily on the PP - in that multiple times I saw him notice the puck at the point, and start fighting to the front of the net for screening and rebounds. I'm glad he's just a junior, hopefully he sticks around.

Brenner is clearly our best player this year, he has the best puck handling skills around the net and has really impressed me. Last year he was used as the guy around the net a lot, it seems that we have moved away from that a bit this year.