REPORT: North Dakota cutting women's hockey

[Russell Jaslow]

That's absolutely ridiculous. The ice is in, it's ready to go. Not much different than any other rink.

Not so ridiculous.

There are costs putting on a game. Labor costs to man the place (though, like I said in another post, they don't need to pay for ushers to just tell you "Sit anywhere"), security, clean up, etc. Even if some of that is returned (concession stand labor vs. food sales, for instance), it still costs money to put a game on.

Plus, how much could the rink make if they rented the ice out to a youth program instead of three hours of "free" use by the college team?

 

[Russell Jaslow]

alumni donations.

This.

Alumni donations are ultimately what drives a lot of college sports decisions.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

and second, which school will benefit the most?
St. cloud, Mankato, Bemidji? somebody else?

Don't rule out D3 programs.

When other programs were shuttered (Findlay), a lot of players transferred to D3 schools, because they couldn't find a spot on a D1 team on such short notice.

Sure, the top players will find a D1 spot, but many others may find it a lot easier to just go with a D3 program and guarantee themselves a spot.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

I would imagine that current high school junior and USA U18 team member Gabby Hughes won't have any problem catching on with another team.

29 goals + 38 assists = 66 points in just 23 games for Centennial high school this past year.
http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/roster_players/15124081

Unfortunately the Gopher already have a rather large (6) incoming class already committed for 2018-19, so adding another would seem unlikely.

Clarkson is a fine place to play hockey. And I think they won a really big game recently...

 

[Russell Jaslow]

I wonder if the school chose to cut hockey because it is so high profile that they expected a backlash. They can then turn around and say: find sponsors that will support the program and we'll bring it back......

See: Skidmore.

 

[Runsub5]

Re: REPORT: North Dakota cutting women's hockey

Women's hockey is over everywhere if revenue has to cover expenses. UND had $25,306 in ticket sales against $2.1M in expenses.

http://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/unds-womens-hockey-program-lost-1-9-million-2016/

Admission at Maine is free. Women's hockey program continues at a significant cost.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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I would imagine that current high school junior and USA U18 team member Gabby Hughes won't have any problem catching on with another team.

29 goals + 38 assists = 66 points in just 23 games for Centennial high school this past year.
http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/roster_players/15124081

Unfortunately the Gopher already have a rather large (6) incoming class already committed for 2018-19, so adding another would seem unlikely.

But can she add?

 

[D2D]

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But can she add?

Hopefully better than me! LOL

 

[Golden Tuuk]

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Not so ridiculous.

There are costs putting on a game. Labor costs to man the place (though, like I said in another post, they don't need to pay for ushers to just tell you "Sit anywhere"), security, clean up, etc. Even if some of that is returned (concession stand labor vs. food sales, for instance), it still costs money to put a game on.

Plus, how much could the rink make if they rented the ice out to a youth program instead of three hours of "free" use by the college team?

Wow. I feel dumber just reading your posts. <a href='http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html' title='Facebook smileys'><img src='http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif' alt='Facebook smileys' border='0'></a>

Agree with yourself please. It costs to play anywhere. The team is essentially getting free ice at Englestad but you think the women should play at a local high school (where they'd have to pay $500 for ice) to save money?

It's all a moot point anyway.

 

[cF[Authentic]]

Re: REPORT: North Dakota cutting women's hockey

Kate Fagan on ESPN Outside the Lines just compared UND cutting Women's Hockey to UConn cutting women's basketball. "That's how dominant that program has been," she said.

 

[JoeGopher]

Re: REPORT: North Dakota cutting women's hockey

Kate Fagan on ESPN Outside the Lines just compared UND cutting Women's Hockey to UConn cutting women's basketball. "That's how dominant that program has been," she said.

True statement. As long as she puts them behind UM, UMD, Wisconsin, Clarkson, and BC. Other than that, it's a perfectly valid statement.

 

[bucky15]

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Wow. I feel dumber just reading your posts. <a href='http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html' title='Facebook smileys'><img src='http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif' alt='Facebook smileys' border='0'></a>

Agree with yourself please. It costs to play anywhere. The team is essentially getting free ice at Englestad but you think the women should play at a local high school (where they'd have to pay $500 for ice) to save money?

It's all a moot point anyway.

Do you think opening a 12k arena is free to host an event that has 800 people at it?

 

[robertearle]

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Do you think opening a 12k arena is free to host an event that has 800 people at it?

Does UND have a practice rink separate from the Ralph that they use regularly? Because if not, the building gets 'opened' on a daily basis whether there's a game or not. Obviously, ushers and concessions etc happen only on a day game, but the great majority of facilities cost exist whether or not a game happens to be played that day or not. The incremental cost of 'game' versus 'practice but no game' is likely fairly minimal, and may well approach "free".

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Wow. I feel dumber just reading your posts. <a href='http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html' title='Facebook smileys'><img src='http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif' alt='Facebook smileys' border='0'></a>

Agree with yourself please. It costs to play anywhere. The team is essentially getting free ice at Englestad but you think the women should play at a local high school (where they'd have to pay $500 for ice) to save money?

It's all a moot point anyway.

Umm, it's not at all what I said. Reading comprehension my friend. Reading comprehension.

I said Englestad can make more money renting the ice time to a youth team instead of giving it to the women for free. Sheesh...

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

Re: REPORT: North Dakota cutting women's hockey

Kate Fagan on ESPN Outside the Lines just compared UND cutting Women's Hockey to UConn cutting women's basketball. "That's how dominant that program has been," she said.

Saw the video of this posted on another forum...

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19046887&t=02m25s

 

[bluffrinkrat]

Re: REPORT: North Dakota cutting women's hockey

Saw the video of this posted on another forum...

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19046887&t=02m25s

Well, she does cover NBA basketball and played for Colorado which may help to explain her hyperbolic comparison of North Dakota hockey to UConn basketball. Or maybe she was just confused and thought ND with the Lamoureux's had the 62 game winning streak and Minnesota ended it?

 

[giwan]

Well, she does cover NBA basketball and played for Colorado which may help to explain her hyperbolic comparison of North Dakota hockey to UConn basketball. And maybe she was just confused and thought ND with the Lamoureux's had the 62 game winning streak and Minnesota ended it?

Really an ESPN reporter accused of hyperbole? Can't be

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Well, she does cover NBA basketball and played for Colorado which may help to explain her comparison of North Dakota hockey to UConn basketball. And maybe she was just confused and thought ND with the Lamoureux's had the 62 game winning streak and Minnesota ended it?

Or could it be kind of like a 6 degrees of separation thing?

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

Kate Fagan on ESPN Outside the Lines just compared UND cutting Women's Hockey to UConn cutting women's basketball. "That's how dominant that program has been," she said.

That might be the dumbest thing ever said on ESPN.

I am aware of how much competition there is for the title of Dumbest Thing Ever Said On ESPN. But I stand firm on that statement.

 

[D2D]

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That might be the dumbest thing ever said on ESPN.

I am aware of how much competition there is for the title of Dumbest Thing Ever Said On ESPN. But I stand firm on that statement.

UConn going for their 5th straight national championship (not a BB fan, just happened to see this in the sports page this morning).