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Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
Where I was raised 99% of the population was either Catholic, Jewish, or atheist. I thought Protestants were some weird minority sect like Scientologists.
Where I was raised 99% of the population was either Catholic, Jewish, or atheist. I thought Protestants were some weird minority sect like Scientologists.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
That's not true of the Catholic Church around my area, and my wife insists on more conservative parishes to take mass. She knows many priests, having worked for the local archdiocese for 13 years now, and they know I'm an atheist. They welcome me, and just state that I cannot take communion, but could receive a blessing should I choose. I never do.
That's not true of the Catholic Church around my area, and my wife insists on more conservative parishes to take mass. She knows many priests, having worked for the local archdiocese for 13 years now, and they know I'm an atheist. They welcome me, and just state that I cannot take communion, but could receive a blessing should I choose. I never do.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
unofan
Well-known member
Every Catholic Church I've ever been in has welcomed others, you're just not supposed to take communion.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Who would ever pass on a tasty cookie?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
Catholics don’t own communion. We had communion back at my church growing up and it wa Lutheran.
I would have no problems with my children growing up going to church, with the caveat the church would have to be as far from the evangelicals as can be. I think the tricky part comes in how we would approach it when they start to get old enough to ask questions and figure it out for themselves.
We’ve already had discussions about one or two things that were said there which made me feel uncomfortable. I told my girlfriend that if that’s what the church believes, I’m not going back. We had a mature, adult discussion about it. She reassured me that she and the church didn’t believe in what was said. The pastor was apparently talked to by the other pastors and congregants. So while there are going to be issues, I feel like her core, secular beliefs are very well-aligned with mine. We’re also mature enough to be able to discuss them without having to harbor contempt or choke down discomfort.
Back to the question about children, being a good person comes first though and I know she’s on the same page there. She’s more progressive than I am and I wouldn’t be with her if she didn’t put people over religious dogma.
Catholics don’t own communion. We had communion back at my church growing up and it wa Lutheran.
Seems mature and reasonable for all parties, and no obstacle for remaining in this state for as long as it's comfortable. If you have kids someday you'll face questions of their upbringing but if you and your partner couldn't figure that stuff out then you'd have way bigger problems than the specific issue at hand.
I would have no problems with my children growing up going to church, with the caveat the church would have to be as far from the evangelicals as can be. I think the tricky part comes in how we would approach it when they start to get old enough to ask questions and figure it out for themselves.
We’ve already had discussions about one or two things that were said there which made me feel uncomfortable. I told my girlfriend that if that’s what the church believes, I’m not going back. We had a mature, adult discussion about it. She reassured me that she and the church didn’t believe in what was said. The pastor was apparently talked to by the other pastors and congregants. So while there are going to be issues, I feel like her core, secular beliefs are very well-aligned with mine. We’re also mature enough to be able to discuss them without having to harbor contempt or choke down discomfort.
Back to the question about children, being a good person comes first though and I know she’s on the same page there. She’s more progressive than I am and I wouldn’t be with her if she didn’t put people over religious dogma.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
If you're ever at a frat initiation, I'd recommend it.
If you're ever at a frat initiation, I'd recommend it.
ericredaxe
Veteran
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
Is the whole cracker thing even sanitary? Are FDA guidelines for foodservice being followed?
Is the whole cracker thing even sanitary? Are FDA guidelines for foodservice being followed?
wolverineTrumpet
not particularly bad
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
Oddly I never went to church with the super religious boy I dated in 8th/9th grade that is now a pastor. He did take me to a 4-H fair and teach me to show goats, but I don't think he wanted to ever discuss religion with me. His parents were the our kids can not watch tv, nor listen to secular music type.
This. I've gone to church services with religious boyfriends in my past. Both Lutheran and Catholic where I was told I could not take communion, but they wanted me to go to church with them.
Every Catholic Church I've ever been in has welcomed others, you're just not supposed to take communion.
Oddly I never went to church with the super religious boy I dated in 8th/9th grade that is now a pastor. He did take me to a 4-H fair and teach me to show goats, but I don't think he wanted to ever discuss religion with me. His parents were the our kids can not watch tv, nor listen to secular music type.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
So I've learned. Prior to today, I thought Catholics were the sole providers of Jeez-Its crackers.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
I said nothing about not allowing people in to listen. I just said, from what I remember, don't expect the sort of touchy-feely liberalism you'll get at a lot of Lutheran churches, UU churches, or some of the catch-all "Bible churches". I think I knew one bleeding heart priest the entire time I was raised Catholic.
But then again, I haven't cared to attend Mass or call myself a Catholic in a decade, so whatever.
Every Catholic Church I've ever been in has welcomed others, you're just not supposed to take communion.
I said nothing about not allowing people in to listen. I just said, from what I remember, don't expect the sort of touchy-feely liberalism you'll get at a lot of Lutheran churches, UU churches, or some of the catch-all "Bible churches". I think I knew one bleeding heart priest the entire time I was raised Catholic.
But then again, I haven't cared to attend Mass or call myself a Catholic in a decade, so whatever.
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MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
I've been in the Reformed Church in America... communion.
I've been non-denominational. Communion, but with grape juice.
I've been with the Episcopalians for over a year. The sermon lasts 15 minutes, but the entire service is centered on Eucharist (Communion). Although, Yellow Tail tastes better than our Communion wine. And in our church, no matter what, all are invited to take Communion.
I've been in the Reformed Church in America... communion.
I've been non-denominational. Communion, but with grape juice.
I've been with the Episcopalians for over a year. The sermon lasts 15 minutes, but the entire service is centered on Eucharist (Communion). Although, Yellow Tail tastes better than our Communion wine. And in our church, no matter what, all are invited to take Communion.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
leswp1
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Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
He won't take communion tho.
(Baptist)
I have taken care of some of those women. It is awful. And they also have issues giving birth very young.
Ha! mr les is a Cadillac and I am a Lutheran. lilnsl was batized a Lutheran because mr les does not practice his religion. All sorts of guff from his bro who didn't go to Mass but well Lutherans are heretics. lilnsl asked me why mr les didn't go to church when he was about 3. I said he needed to ask dad. mr les started goint to church because it was easier than answering.Seems mature and reasonable for all parties, and no obstacle for remaining in this state for as long as it's comfortable. If you have kids someday you'll face questions of their upbringing but if you and your partner couldn't figure that stuff out then you'd have way bigger problems than the specific issue at hand.
He won't take communion tho. I thought all Protestant churches had communion until I was older.
The one I go to in the summer does it once a month.
We argue about this all the time. If I go I take communion. It isn't the church's bread but God's. In the service He invites us to commune and rejecting that offer because some human thinks I am not good enough isn't in me.
Every Catholic Church I've ever been in has welcomed others, you're just not supposed to take communion.
Our church they invite everyone as part of the Service
I had a friend who switched churches after the kids were told their Dad was going to Hell because he didn't go to church
(Baptist)
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
When I first took Communion at Grace, as I was walking back to my seat, I heard something say "be wary of those who try to keep you from this Table."
I also know that day, my pastor wanted to hug me right there at the altar.
When I first took Communion at Grace, as I was walking back to my seat, I heard something say "be wary of those who try to keep you from this Table."
I also know that day, my pastor wanted to hug me right there at the altar.
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
My childhood Methodist church had communion the first Sunday of every month, and "all who truly repented of their sins against God" (I still remember that exact phrase) were invited to partake. IIRC, the only 2 sacraments recognized by Methodism were baptism (infant or otherwise) and communion.
My childhood Methodist church had communion the first Sunday of every month, and "all who truly repented of their sins against God" (I still remember that exact phrase) were invited to partake. IIRC, the only 2 sacraments recognized by Methodism were baptism (infant or otherwise) and communion.
Not even close, you poor, poor persecuted Christian. How dare you compare your discomfort while voluntarily reading an internet forum where you know full well in advance that most of the posters disagree with you to the millenia of abuse (up to and including death) which has been perpetrated on LGBTQ people, abuse which has been led first and foremost by the "Children of Christ." You are truly sick.5Mn_Major said:
Re: Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer
So let's kick the tires on this.
1) If Islam was a unique source of direct abuse, Islamic doctrine would validate that abuse. It does not. Although it discusses Jihad, that is not oppression of its own people. In fact, the Quran explicitly mandates equal treatment of all people. There are clearly other factors at work 2) Ideologies have always been used for personal and abusive purposes. Can you imagine a situation where 'capitalism' or 'socialism' was used to abuse someone? Can you think of a time when 'nationalism' was used for terrible purposes? The concepts of capitalism and socialism are inherently not bad. 3) If Islam was a unique source of direct abuse, wouldn't you expect Muslims coming to this country to be abusive and criminal? I assume you're pretty familiar with the Somali community in MN. They are both culturally current and crime/abuse isn't just the same as the white community - its lower than the white community. While others here might not feel this way, Muslims are both a positive and IMO welcome part of the city.
As a fellow analyst/strategist, you hit the nail on the head when you said 'in the name of...'.
First, I personally wouldn't think twice about deciding whether God does or doesn't exist. Just go and take what you want from the experience. Second, a job can be good or bad. Marriage can be good or bad. Just don't do the place that doesn't make sense.
So let's kick the tires on this.
1) If Islam was a unique source of direct abuse, Islamic doctrine would validate that abuse. It does not. Although it discusses Jihad, that is not oppression of its own people. In fact, the Quran explicitly mandates equal treatment of all people. There are clearly other factors at work 2) Ideologies have always been used for personal and abusive purposes. Can you imagine a situation where 'capitalism' or 'socialism' was used to abuse someone? Can you think of a time when 'nationalism' was used for terrible purposes? The concepts of capitalism and socialism are inherently not bad. 3) If Islam was a unique source of direct abuse, wouldn't you expect Muslims coming to this country to be abusive and criminal? I assume you're pretty familiar with the Somali community in MN. They are both culturally current and crime/abuse isn't just the same as the white community - its lower than the white community. While others here might not feel this way, Muslims are both a positive and IMO welcome part of the city.
As a fellow analyst/strategist, you hit the nail on the head when you said 'in the name of...'.
First, I personally wouldn't think twice about deciding whether God does or doesn't exist. Just go and take what you want from the experience. Second, a job can be good or bad. Marriage can be good or bad. Just don't do the place that doesn't make sense.
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