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Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer

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Jesus:

*passes the bread* "This is my body."

*passes the wine* "This is my blood."

*cuts life into pieces* "THIS IS MY LAST RESORT!"
 
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Working on my book of random memories and life events that led to this day. This is what I have for my first part on the church/my relationship with God so far:

From the moment I was born, I was thrown into a church. I’m not even sure where I started attending church, and I don’t think it really matters. I was an infant, and I was going to attend where my mom was. When my stepfather was introduced in 1985, that’s when Mom lost the say in where we went and that was it. I remember Berean Church, an affluent church in the Muskegon suburb of Norton Shores. And at Berean, if you weren’t Norton Shores wealthy, you were nothing. I couldn’t make friends with those kids; all interactions felt forced and it was hideous to even be there. Anyway, I think my dad was trying to land a pastoral role, or at least an assistantship. Either way, he was unsuccessful, and Mom and I were dragged along for the ride. Sometime in here, I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior. Later, I realized I did this because Mommy and Daddy wanted me to.

The next church I remember was Northside Bible Church in North Muskegon. Better group of people than Berean to be sure… at least the kids were easier to connect with. How we found out about this church is irrelevant to be sure, all I know is we were there. And everything started out fantastic. But a few years in, there was trouble brewing. The church split for some reason (for all I know, one group wanted green napkins on Christmas while the other group wanted red). The group that wanted green napkins on Christmas went away, leaving us with the pastor and the group that wanted red napkins.
 
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God is not mocked. Or is He? As Head of the Church of England, Her Majesty should raise the strongest protest.

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God is not mocked. Or is He? As Head of the Church of England, Her Majesty should raise the strongest protest.

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I'm sure the diocese will have something to say. Someone didn't run that past the bishop. Hell, I brought up the idea of another baptism to Jen, and she had to run it by the regional bishop. (I'm not sure how the Episcopalians work entirely...)
 
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I'm sure the diocese will have something to say. Someone didn't run that past the bishop. Hell, I brought up the idea of another baptism to Jen, and she had to run it by the regional bishop. (I'm not sure how the Episcopalians work entirely...)

If it is anything like the Lutherans one dipping and you are good. You can re-affirm your baptism by either Confirmation or a re-affirmation ceremony.
 
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God is not mocked. Or is He? As Head of the Church of England, Her Majesty should raise the strongest protest.

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the comments back are interesting. I wonder who is more likely to engage people and bring them in- the folks who are opening the church and bringing people to a place where they might actually see the other functions of the CHurch or the dude who thinks only the Eucharist should be enough. My money is on the golf dudes. People get intimidated by church. Anything that shows them that Church is not scary.....
 
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If it is anything like the Lutherans one dipping and you are good. You can re-affirm your baptism by either Confirmation or a re-affirmation ceremony.

Actually, here's what Jen and I did. She thought about it, and according to her, God already knew who I was, so we had a service of Renaming instead. And there is liturgy in the Episcopal Church for this. There was a liturgy on April 3, and in front of about 30 "family" members, I was officially blessed as Amber Marie. I even had control over the music and Scriptures. Had Pastor Beth from Hope Church there too and she was serving Communion as well as reading Scripture.
 
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One thing I especially hated in the church growing up: my parents bounced from church to church, and so we became "Protestant Mutts," combined with the feeling attending church was a have to, rather than a want to. And of course, I was saved as a child, because that's what Mommy and Daddy wanted. I don't think I had a choice in the matter.
 
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Hence why Dawkins argued that indoctrinating children into a religion is tantamount to child abuse.
 
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Hence why Dawkins argued that indoctrinating children into a religion is tantamount to child abuse.

I think he's totally wrong. Discovering you can't trust authority is a very valuable lesson -- maybe the most valuable lesson a child can have. Religion is the first brush with mass hypocrisy and mass idiocy that a child can understand. The reaction is a critical part of forming an independent and questioning self.

There's a reason many of the greatest thinkers came out of strict religious upbringing. Once you have detected, by yourself, the logical inconsistencies and the power relations latent within religion, you are on the road to questioning all authority and becoming an original and creative force.

I'm fine with applying it as an IQ test across the entire population. Those who are left behind weren't going anywhere anyway.
 
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I walked away for awhile. Felt like God wasn't listening and didn't want to hear me anyway.

Certain people from my old church didn't want to talk to me, however, they wanted me to go back to church because THEY wanted me to.

It really wasn't until I met Jen and joined the Episcopalians that I found a God that wasn't trying to kill me and was willing to meet me on my terms.
 
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And I don't think my Mom and dad were committing child abuse. My Mom was a huge believer, and the Bible does say "train a child in the way they should go, and they won't depart from it." (Proverbs 22:6)

However, while I love and miss my Mom very much, this doesn't make her a saint and I never thought she never made any mistakes. Hell, she thought home schooling was a fantastic idea. We tried that for four years, and while she kept up the first two, the other two she left me unattended and with a Playstation in the house, I got nothing done. Not only that, it set me back socially for YEARS.
 
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