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Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
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St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
And we wouldn't want to claim him, I assure you.
NOne of which tD employs
And we wouldn't want to claim him, I assure you.
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Many engineers are good people...but its not because they're engineers. There is nothing in the ideology that reinforces good or bad behavior. In fact, if you look at atheistic communication and positions in terms of time/focus...its almost never about being constructive about anything.
You're really making my point for me. Trump has the pronounced aim to destroy the status quo (as mentioned previously) but he also has no moral compass. If Christianity is nothing else, it is a moral compass.
Many engineers are good people...but its not because they're engineers. There is nothing in the ideology that reinforces good or bad behavior. In fact, if you look at atheistic communication and positions in terms of time/focus...its almost never about being constructive about anything.
You're really making my point for me. Trump has the pronounced aim to destroy the status quo (as mentioned previously) but he also has no moral compass. If Christianity is nothing else, it is a moral compass.
leswp1
Well-known member
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
You seem to have your own definition/view of atheism. I can't say I agree but what ever. tD is still the anti-Christ
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
That is a seemingly rare attempt to engage on a topic. Couldn't the same be said of Fox?
That is a seemingly rare attempt to engage on a topic. Couldn't the same be said of Fox?
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
That's what the Fox say? What about whose Fox?
That's what the Fox say? What about whose Fox?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
You really need to read more. I suggest you start here. I could just quote it in its entirety, but she could use the money.
Suffice that you are entirely wrong, but I believe that comes from ignorance and not malice. This will open your eyes.
You really need to read more. I suggest you start here. I could just quote it in its entirety, but she could use the money.
Suffice that you are entirely wrong, but I believe that comes from ignorance and not malice. This will open your eyes.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
I read that yesterday from another source. Has Bill Chumley never heard of a little retailer online called "Amazon.com", "Newegg.com" or "AboutABillionOtherSites.com" in order to purchase a non-Net Nanny loaded machine?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Bzzzzt. What you typed next showed absolutely no evidence of any thinking at all, much less further thinking.
As an atheist, I believe in clinical and applied psychology, both of which offer PLENTY of self-help tools. I just took an entire MBA class on managing interpersonal relationships which could basically be boiled down to a study of the empirical evidence that following the Golden Rule makes you a more effective leader or teammate. Jesus espoused the golden rule, but he wasn't the first and the fact is that the rule works (as shown by statistically significant, tangible, real-world effects), whether or not one (or anyone) believes in an invisible sky being, so science leads us to the conclusion that we should be nice to each other completely independently from religion or Christianity.
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
Alright. Engineers are good people simply because they're engineers.
You believe in clinical and applied psychology because you don't believe in God? Not many would admit to that.
Regarding the Golden Rule, even if personally you find it so ****ing that Jesus stole the idea...does He get any credit for turning it from nothing into a household thing? I know from atheism the answer is no - because its an ideology built on no. Folks are able to share evidence here that pre Constantine Roman Empire was compassionate...and that early Christians that espoused the Golden Rule were not frequently put to death. And that Jesus was not needed.
Unlike other Christians, I don't see atheism as 'bad'. But I do see it as really just an ideology of 'no' because it only stands for not God. Anything else are atheists trying to give it additional meaning that it just doesn't have.
Alright. Engineers are good people simply because they're engineers.
You believe in clinical and applied psychology because you don't believe in God? Not many would admit to that.
Regarding the Golden Rule, even if personally you find it so ****ing that Jesus stole the idea...does He get any credit for turning it from nothing into a household thing? I know from atheism the answer is no - because its an ideology built on no. Folks are able to share evidence here that pre Constantine Roman Empire was compassionate...and that early Christians that espoused the Golden Rule were not frequently put to death. And that Jesus was not needed.
Unlike other Christians, I don't see atheism as 'bad'. But I do see it as really just an ideology of 'no' because it only stands for not God. Anything else are atheists trying to give it additional meaning that it just doesn't have.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
Engineers are people. Whether or not they're good or bad depends solely upon the deeds they perform in their lifetimes. Designing and selling a doomsday device makes one a bad person. Designing and selling a cold fusion power generator makes one a good person.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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Sorry, but don't really buy this. Its a good thing that there are different perspectives - atheist and Christian. Everyone should be allowed to believe what they want.
Note there is a war against Christians internationally as in there are a considerable number of Christians killed for their faith on a daily basis (google it). But in the US, I don't believe there is a war on unbelief just as there is no war on Christianity. There are conflicting ideas which is good and leads to multiple path alternatives for self improvement, etc. As with science in technology fields, faith adds some options for self help. The issue is that whether or not there's anything else behind atheism...atheistic input rarely adds any constructive alternatives for the individual to the discussion. Too often its look at the stupid Christian. But to reiterate, its my opinion that there's no war on unbelief or Christianity.
I would say that there's two real ideological wars in American society today. I would say first a war on conservatism. This is IMO a just war by progressivism (I'm a big time progressive) on conservative ideals that has been going on forever. The other war could be considered a war by conservatives to hold political power against an increasingly liberal/progressive country. Not so sure about this second one.
Sorry, but don't really buy this. Its a good thing that there are different perspectives - atheist and Christian. Everyone should be allowed to believe what they want.
Note there is a war against Christians internationally as in there are a considerable number of Christians killed for their faith on a daily basis (google it). But in the US, I don't believe there is a war on unbelief just as there is no war on Christianity. There are conflicting ideas which is good and leads to multiple path alternatives for self improvement, etc. As with science in technology fields, faith adds some options for self help. The issue is that whether or not there's anything else behind atheism...atheistic input rarely adds any constructive alternatives for the individual to the discussion. Too often its look at the stupid Christian. But to reiterate, its my opinion that there's no war on unbelief or Christianity.
I would say that there's two real ideological wars in American society today. I would say first a war on conservatism. This is IMO a just war by progressivism (I'm a big time progressive) on conservative ideals that has been going on forever. The other war could be considered a war by conservatives to hold political power against an increasingly liberal/progressive country. Not so sure about this second one.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...
Atheism is now protected under the Frank Wolf International Religious Freedom Act of 1998 as the addition was signed into law a few days ago. Prior to that we were targets. Allegedly.
Atheism is now protected under the Frank Wolf International Religious Freedom Act of 1998 as the addition was signed into law a few days ago. Prior to that we were targets. Allegedly.
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I was being facetious, 5mn. I think atheism is widely mischaracterized, but I've never considered it to be under attack, any more than, as you say, christianity (or Christmas).
I was being facetious, 5mn. I think atheism is widely mischaracterized, but I've never considered it to be under attack, any more than, as you say, christianity (or Christmas).
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