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Religion: Communion Toast Crunch

Daniel Dennett (scientist) and Christopher Hitchens (polemicist) each were far, far subtler and more interesting than Richard Dawkins (scientist) and Sam Harris (polemicist). I always bridled at the four being placed as peers. I understood that the Thumper boobs would do it, but lazy secularists did it too. There was a huge difference in quality.
 
Daniel Dennett (scientist) and Christopher Hitchens (polemicist) each were far, far subtler and more interesting than Richard Dawkins (scientist) and Sam Harris (polemicist). I always bridled at the four being placed as peers. I understood that the Thumper boobs would do it, but lazy secularists did it too. There was a huge difference in quality.
I enjoyed each of Dennett's books that I have read, although some are quite dense. I can watch Hitchen's debate any day and feel in pure rhetoric he is one of the best (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens's_razor) if not only repackaging other's quips as he was so well read. I feel he really missed the mark (although had a personal bias) with his strong support of the Iraq war.

Dawkins was good when he stuck to science. Harris seemed to get a degree in neuroscience to have false authority as he really did nothing scientific.
 
Dennett is interesting when debating because he is so kind. The derps are screeching he's the anti-Christ and he very gently examines their argument and takes it seriously. He had the confidence of a mind that did not take shortcuts and was genuinely looking for knowledge, not just to be right.
 
I enjoyed each of Dennett's books that I have read, although some are quite dense. I can watch Hitchen's debate any day and feel in pure rhetoric he is one of the best (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens's_razor) if not only repackaging other's quips as he was so well read. I feel he really missed the mark (although had a personal bias) with his strong support of the Iraq war.

Dawkins was good when he stuck to science. Harris seemed to get a degree in neuroscience to have false authority as he really did nothing scientific.
Yeah, I think Hitchens just got sucked into thinking it's good anytime a (more) secular society puts the beat down on a more theocratic one - end justified the means.
 
A guy from church just came to my door to invite me to join the congregation this weekend so I could follow Jesus' road to happiness. My road to happiness takes a sharp detour around your church.

I've still never had a gay guy come to my door to invite me to become gay... :unsure:
 
Fasc Caths about to FAFO.

The Vatican on Wednesday urged a breakaway Catholic group dedicated to the old Latin mass to cancel plans to ordain new ‌bishops without consent from Pope Leo, warning the action would incur excommunication from the 1.4-billion-member Church.

In the first known threat of the Church's most severe penalty during Leo's papacy, the Vatican's doctrinal office told the Swiss-based Society of St. Pius X any ordination of bishops would create a "schism", or formal rupture with the pope.

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Excommunicated persons are considered completely separated from the Church. ‌They ⁠are unable to receive sacraments or hold Church office until they repent. If they die while excommunicated, they are unable to receive Catholic burial.

The nutbar branch describes itself as "traditional." Except for, you know, that whole the Pope is the Vicar of Christ on Earth. That one they feel free to pass up in their cafeteria line.

I love the Latin mass personally. It's the only mass I would willingly sit through. However, I do not begrudge people who wish to understand the fucking words.
 
The nutbar branch describes itself as "traditional." Except for, you know, that whole the Pope is the Vicar of Christ on Earth. That one they feel free to pass up in their cafeteria line.
Only on matters of faith and morulz!!11!!!1!!!!

AKA, anything Leo does they don't like they can skip or fabricate as they see fit.
 
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