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Realignment Rumors

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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
That's entirely beside the point. Of course the players (and... well... college kids in general) like to skip classes. And maybe they wouldn't mind having to travel longer and miss more classes. But why would that be relevant to anyone?

Let's review, shall we? You said this in response to someone saying that combining the WCHA and CCHA would be stupid because of all the extra travel:



In other words: Missing more classes would be a reason that athletic departments would want to merge the CCHA and WCHA into one conference.

Not a deterrent (because <strike>most</strike> all athletic departments want to miss less class to appease their academic counterparts).

Not an extra expense (because of the added costs of this kind of travel arrangement).

Why would any self-respecting AD go along with that?
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You're talking way over Lloyd and Harry's heads with this post. But unfortunately, the board doesn't have an option to draw pictures in crayons, so what can you do?
 
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Apologies in advance to those who are filtering the thread.

yooper(UP) hockey said:
The WCHA is a great league and the CCHA in couple of season will lose its load with the big schools leaving. Combine the leagues to compete directly with the Big 10.
The combined league will munipulate who the Big 10 teams will play.
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False. There is NO entity that will dictate just what the B1G schools will do, other than the B1G Ten itself.

Without the Alaska exemption, there are 34 games maximum to fill per year. Twenty are already spoken for as conference games (per the B1G press release). That leaves 14 dates to fill. Seven weekends. Subtract the GLI, Badger Showdown, and Marriucci Classic weekends (respectively) and that leaves just 12 dates, SIX weekends to fill. (Ignoring the fact that Penn and tOSU don't host tourney's now)

Just six weekends to fill. Minnesota and Wisconsin are going to look at playing their "rivals" that will draw attendance (tUMD, UND, maybe CC/DU). Michigan and Michigan State will want games against ND and Miami. Now you're looking at four weekend at most available to play the B1G schools.

You really think that a "WCCHA" super conference will be able to dictate that those FOUR remaining weekends are to be shared with their conference? Think again. The B1G schools want HOME dates. They'll choose to write checks to AHA and EZAC schools for one-and-done home series with those schools.
 
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aparch said:
Apologies in advance to those who are filtering the thread.


False. There is NO entity that will dictate just what the B1G schools will do, other than the B1G Ten itself.

Without the Alaska exemption, there are 34 games maximum to fill per year. Twenty are already spoken for as conference games (per the B1G press release). That leaves 14 dates to fill. Seven weekends. Subtract the GLI, Badger Showdown, and Marriucci Classic weekends (respectively) and that leaves just 12 dates, SIX weekends to fill. (Ignoring the fact that Penn and tOSU don't host tourney's now)

Just six weekends to fill. Minnesota and Wisconsin are going to look at playing their "rivals" that will draw attendance (tUMD, UND, maybe CC/DU). Michigan and Michigan State will want games against ND and Miami. Now you're looking at four weekend at most available to play the B1G schools.

You really think that a "WCCHA" super conference will be able to dictate that those FOUR remaining weekends are to be shared with their conference? Think again. The B1G schools want HOME dates. They'll choose to write checks to AHA and EZAC schools for one-and-done home series with those schools.
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If by chance the "WCCHA" super conference is actually created and the WCHA is gone the Big Ten schools wouldn't feel obligated to find room on their schedules anymore for a new conference.
 
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Almington said:
You are assuming that he had credibility to begin with.

His point and logic are valid, that if ND starts a network, they are going to want to maximize revenue from it, one way that they will do that is by increasing the overall national profile of the teams that the hockey program plays.

Where his logic fails is why would teams like Providence or BC want to join the conference? I'm sure that any of the HE schools would have no problem playing ND in no conference play, I have to believe that they would laugh in anyones face if they were asked to leave the easy travel of HE to join a predominantly western conference. Basically I see this playing out two ways either a Western 6 (or 8) forms and the excluded teams form a conference of 6 (or 8) teams or nothing happens in the short term and the status quo exists until after everyone has had a chance to adjust to the Big Ten conference.
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Well personally I think all the teams no matter what conference are going to take a look at their recruiting. If they are still getting recruits and still competitive and still in a similar boat financially then not much will happen. However the chances of that are slim.
So down the line things will likely change. A lot more to come no doubt. But ND having it's own network surely means they will maximize what exposure they can when they can. It doesn't necessarily mean a change in conference affiliation right away though IMO. Especially to HE. I'm sure there are discussions and rumors of discussions all over, but that's a lot different than action.
 
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4four4 said:
If by chance the "WCCHA" super conference is actually created and the WCHA is gone the Big Ten schools wouldn't feel obligated to find room on their schedules anymore for a new conference.
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My point the small schools dont need the Big 10 schools anyway. The small schools need each other and thats why they need to stick together in on super confrence.
 
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so you think schools that are power houses in college hockey like denver and UND are going to find it hard to recuit?
 
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yooper(UP) hockey said:
If I am right I think most student athletes dont mind missing class for hockey.

Most players go to school for hockey not school.
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There are NCAA regulations on the amount of class time that can be missed in a semester. And players don't really enjoy two day bus trips.
 
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The "best" thing about all these realignment rumors, is that not one of them has a single piece of credible evidence to back it up.
 
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The main reason that there's nothing concrete to go on is that there really isn't a whole lot of "credible evidence" until you see an actual announcement: "Notre Dame leaves CCHA", "WCHA lifts moratorium on expansion", that sort of thing.

At this stage, it's all backroom, "off the record" discussions that are either (a) almost never reported, (b) when they are reported, they are done with "anonymous sources", or (c) the more rare example where you actually get an AD caught flapping his gums (see: Alvarez, Barry).

Any sort of disbelief over the lack of real, hard evidence in this thread is like having a sense of disbelief over the diet of an anteater.
 
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davyd83 said:
The "best" thing about all these realignment rumors, is that not one of them has a single piece of credible evidence to back it up.
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Haha! If people only posted stuff when they had credible evidence, there would be little reason to keep this board open.
 
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It also created by people who dont want to admitt that college hockey system is f-up and that some schools are going to lose there welfare check.
 
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gophfan said:
It also created by people who dont want to admitt that college hockey system is f-up and that some schools are going to lose there welfare check.
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Funny, but your not afraid to cash the Gophers share of those BCS bowl checks, like the $13 million + Ohio State brought home while getting those small potatoes bowl appearances in the Insight and Music City Bowls. When was the last time the Gophers cashed a big bowl check for the Big Ten? Oh yeah, 1962. Enjoy YOUR welfare checks. Minnesota contributed $0 to the Big Ten bowl pool this year. They took home about $3.5 million after expenses for the schools were deducted from the payouts. In fact both Wisconsin and Ohio State contributed more this year than Minnesota has in it total history. Welfare checks? Please...you cash 'em every year!
 
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davyd83 said:
Funny, but your not afraid to cash the Gophers share of those BCS bowl checks, like the $13 million + Ohio State brought home while getting those small potatoes bowl appearances in the Insight and Music City Bowls. When was the last time the Gophers cashed a big bowl check for the Big Ten? Oh yeah, 1962. Enjoy YOUR welfare checks.
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The welfare checks are obviously not helping the football team when you get beat by South Dakota...at home.
 
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