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POTUS 46.10: A New Hope

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Swansong said:
A bunch of years ago Guitar Center used these agreements to break Mars Music. Mars opened up a bunch of stores near GC locations and were super successful (because GC is garbage). GC, in response, offered huge signing bonuses to Mars employees if they stuck around at GC for 90 days and in exchange for NCAs. And then fired almost all of them on like day 89.
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Using logic (shame on me, lol), one would think that if GC terminated the relationship, that would void the NCA. To me, a NCA is an agreement to keep someone from entering a business model, learning trade secrets/methods, and then willfully leaving to copy them. If a business says "you are no longer needed here for ______ reason" that business is removing the person willfully and it's their choice. They gave their trade secrets to them, so tough luck that they made a poor choice. Actions have consequences.
 
RaceBoarder said:
Using logic (shame on me, lol), one would think that if GC terminated the relationship, that would void the NCA. To me, a NCA is an agreement to keep someone from entering a business model, learning trade secrets/methods, and then willfully leaving to copy them. If a business says "you are no longer needed here for ______ reason" that business is removing the person willfully and it's their choice. They gave their trade secrets to them, so tough luck that they made a poor choice. Actions have consequences.
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Yeah, I have no idea but I knew a couple of the employees that got hosed and Mars said the NCA prevented them from hiring them back.


Then again, Mars failed and GC is still here...
 
Swansong said:
Yeah, I have no idea but I knew a couple of the employees that got hosed and Mars said the NCA prevented them from hiring them back.


Then again, Mars failed and GC is still here...
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There is winning the lawsuit and there is surviving the lawsuit. Employees at that level don't have the financial resources to survive the lawsuit which is what corps bank on.

When I left my partnership gig I had an 8 year NCA (you read that right) per the terms of the partnership agreement. I had to check in with compliance for every job move during that time period. In exchange they kept the buyout payments flowing every month. I had a fiduciary responsibility to the organization even after I left so in my case the terms of the NCA weren't considered onerous. Most NCAs these days are, in my opinion, punitive in nature and completely unenforceable but no way is the GC employee going to be able to sue.
 
Among the executive orders that Biden signed on Friday was one that allows farmers and motorists to repair their equipment without voiding the manufacturer’s warranty. I feel like this was a big conversation among farmers on the board a handful of months ago.
 
Handyman said:
It was definitely talked about. Seems like a good idea so I'm sure it will be labeled socialism.
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No the small town GQP'er will take credit for it on Facebook, and the farmers will believe that their congressman did God's Good Work (tm).
 
Bronco said:
No the small town GQP'er will take credit for it on Facebook, and the farmers will believe that their congressman did God's Good Work (tm).
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Ironic that their representatives fell short of that, and it was an EO from a Democrat that finally did it. Their holiness did noting about it at all.

More of the questions how these people literally worship dumpy so much.

BTW- I'm sure some farmers who directly benefit by this will complain about government overstepping on corporations. A lot.
 
Kepler said:
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West.
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And people who have gotten literally nothing from the Racist party since forever. Other than being Racist.

I take that back- I guess when you have multi-millions in land worth, you can pass that onto your kids w/o taxes. But other than that- the massive corporations have done some serious consolidation in farming- between preventing farmers from using their own seeds, to preventing them from working on their own equipment, to huge corporate owned farms, to making sure that farmers back themselves into a constant chemical ground treatment, to companies literally taking a dump on their own food suppliers (chicken farmers come to mind).... I could go on. But pretty much ever single thing Racists stand for is anti-farmer, other than being Racist.
 
I don't think there are a lot of true "small family farms" left. The farmers get old and often now their kids sell the land to a larger neighbor, or to Big Ag, or to some billionaire's trust for a quick cash-out. Wasn't Bill Gates revealed to be one of the largest owners of farmland in the US earlier this year?

The families who do still own farms and ranches tend to have large holdings, so they aren't really "small" anymore. Those people aren't maintaining their own equipment, they're hiring some farmhand to do it, and they were already doing it anyway even if it supposedly voided the warranty. So the Biden EO probably changes nothing except to give them another EO to b*tch about around the dining room table each night.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I don't think there are a lot of true "small family farms" left. The farmers get old and often now their kids sell the land to a larger neighbor, or to Big Ag, or to some billionaire's trust for a quick cash-out. Wasn't Bill Gates revealed to be one of the largest owners of farmland in the US earlier this year?

The families who do still own farms and ranches tend to have large holdings, so they aren't really "small" anymore. Those people aren't maintaining their own equipment, they're hiring some farmhand to do it, and they were already doing it anyway even if it supposedly voided the warranty. So the Biden EO probably changes nothing except to give them another EO to b*tch about around the dining room table each night.
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I'm not sure this is true.

According to the USDA, the average farm size in the US is 444 acres. There are 640 acres in a section of land, and a section of land is one mile by one mile in size.

More than 80% of the farms in the US have less than $100,000 of annual gross sales of agricultural products per year, and nearly 90% have less than $250,000 worth of annual gross sales. Less than 4% of the total number of farms in this country generate gross annual sales of products in excess of $1 million.

Obviously, the size of farms might differ slightly from state to state, with some big ranching states like Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas and Arizona having a larger average size.

But if you think of the food belt states, places like Kansas (784 acres), Nebraska (987), Iowa (360), Minnesota (376), Wisconsin (222), and Illinois (380), your average farm is maybe a little more than or a little less than a half section of land. That isn't very much. You might be able to rent land for $250/acre here in Minnesota, on some of the better ground, which means your half section will generate about $80,000/year in rental income.
 
Yes, but 50%(!) of all "farms" have less than $10,000 in sales. Sorry - that's not a farm, that's a vegetable stand. Including those skews the results - badly. The vast majority of food in this country is produced by factory operations. Agriculture is a business, like any other, no matter how many Normal Rockwell paintings you can produce. There's no reason it should be easier for a farmer to pass his business on to his kids than it should be for the owner of a retail shop, local bank, restaurant, or law firm.
 
LynahFan said:
Yes, but 50%(!) of all "farms" have less than $10,000 in sales. Sorry - that's not a farm, that's a vegetable stand. .
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Eat local and you have no idea how much work it takes to make 10,000 in sales at a vegetable stand, its a farm not a factory
 
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