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POTUS 46.10: A New Hope

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MissThundercat said:
The whining about Keystone XL being cancelled is laughable and predictable. Whining about a pipeline that would not have brought us energy independence (the oil was going elsewhere) and would have created 40 permanent jobs, if that. Then again, these are the bright minds who tell us we can't have wind or solar because "wind dies and sun sets."
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Exactly. Worse yet, it was transporting Canada’s oil to our coast line, far away from Canadian waters and over the world's most important aquifers.

this was a fucking useless pipe
 
MissThundercat said:
The whining about Keystone XL being cancelled is laughable and predictable. Whining about a pipeline that would not have brought us energy independence (the oil was going elsewhere) and would have created 40 permanent jobs, if that. Then again, these are the bright minds who tell us we can't have wind or solar because "wind dies and sun sets."
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It's a shame that wind and solar don't have a better lobbying group- they have a LOT of people who work in that area, and given potential, they have a huge potential for expansion. Let alone the energy storage that will eventually go along with that.

Why people would rather live in coal country- dealing with the pollution that goes with it, vs solar or wind "country"- as they are made all over the place (in plants that HAVE to be clean) is beyond me. As an example, Discovery has this show "Homestead Rescue", where one of the families lived near a former coal mine- and much of their land was not just useless but dangerous due to the tailings. Wells were polluted, could not grow food, etc. Why would people choose to live there?

But coal and oil have a disproportionate voice in congress and the public. They get corporate welfare that is not anywhere near what they contribute to society (jobs, environment, etc) let alone what they really need (oil companies are among the most profitable on the planet- why do they get gifts at all?).
 
MichVandal said:
It's a shame that wind and solar don't have a better lobbying group- they have a LOT of people who work in that area, and given potential, they have a huge potential for expansion. Let alone the energy storage that will eventually go along with that.

Why people would rather live in coal country- dealing with the pollution that goes with it, vs solar or wind "country"- as they are made all over the place (in plants that HAVE to be clean) is beyond me. As an example, Discovery has this show "Homestead Rescue", where one of the families lived near a former coal mine- and much of their land was not just useless but dangerous due to the tailings. Wells were polluted, could not grow food, etc. Why would people choose to live there?

But coal and oil have a disproportionate voice in congress and the public. They get corporate welfare that is not anywhere near what they contribute to society (jobs, environment, etc) let alone what they really need (oil companies are among the most profitable on the planet- why do they get gifts at all?).
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We need to look forward not backward.
 
MichVandal said:
Why people would rather live in coal country- dealing with the pollution that goes with it, vs solar or wind "country"- as they are made all over the place (in plants that HAVE to be clean) is beyond me. As an example, Discovery has this show "Homestead Rescue", where one of the families lived near a former coal mine- and much of their land was not just useless but dangerous due to the tailings. Wells were polluted, could not grow food, etc. Why would people choose to live there?
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Well over half of the people in this country have lived in the same state all of their lives. 1 in 5 have lived in the same town all their lives. There must be as many reasons as there are people. Part of it is of course over a third of this country is too stupid to know better.
 
Kepler said:
This blows me away. I have never known anyone who spent their entire life in the same place.

It's like the middle of this country is the town from Borat.
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Or, it takes a lot of money to move to a different place and most Americans aren’t engineers who can’t bounce around city to city and job to job.
 
MissThundercat said:
The whining about Keystone XL being cancelled is laughable and predictable. Whining about a pipeline that would not have brought us energy independence (the oil was going elsewhere) and would have created 40 permanent jobs, if that. Then again, these are the bright minds who tell us we can't have wind or solar because "wind dies and sun sets."
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I have personally spent time trying to convince friends who post that crap that they're wrong.

But what do I, someone who works in the trades on projects similar in scope to Keystone XL, know about anything like that?

It's the same crap our doctors, nurses, and epidemiologists have been going through for a year, and journalists for five years: someone posting a meme or sh*tty 20 minute YouTube video with no context certainly knows more than someone who has been educated on that topic for decades.



I had it with one and just posted "Bwahahahahaha. Season laborer finds out meaning of seasonal."
 
Kepler said:
This blows me away. I have never known anyone who spent their entire life in the same place.

It's like the middle of this country is the town from Borat.
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I feel like 1/5th is too low for the region I'm from more like 2/5th don't move.

Or of they do move, it's just the same thing they're used to but now with *two* McDonald's. And maybe a Culver's.

I'm trying to figure out how to make it more regional for our east coasties.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
Well over half of the people in this country have lived in the same state all of their lives. 1 in 5 have lived in the same town all their lives. There must be as many reasons as there are people. Part of it is of course over a third of this country is too stupid to know better.
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At some point, their forefathers had to move there. For that specific job. So for them to say they can't move, well.....
 
Jimjamesak said:
Or, it takes a lot of money to move to a different place and most Americans aren’t engineers who can’t bounce around city to city and job to job.
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Except I've known lots of people with very little money. They all came from somewhere else, whether it was moving from BFE to the city to live twelve deep in a 2-person apartment while they were working 3 jobs, or moving around the world with the army, or emigrating here after spending years in refugee camps in Iraq or Somalia -- people who would have killed for a nice, fat, tranquil, bovine, stable, feet up and mind in neutral hometown.

tldr: eat me.
 
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Kepler said:
Except I've known lots of people with very little money. They all came from somewhere else, whether it was moving from BFE to the city to live twelve deep in a 2-person apartment while they were working 3 jobs, or moving around the world with the army, or emigrating here after spending years in refugee camps in Iraq or Somalia -- people who would have killed for a nice, fat, tranquil, bovine, stable, feet up and mind in neutral hometown.

tldr: eat me.
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I know someone, well into his 70s, maybe even over 80 now, who, with the exception of one year in the Navy (Korea), has lived his entire life, from birth till now, in Watkins Glen, NY.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
I know someone, well into his 70s, maybe even over 80 now, who, with the exception of one year in the Navy (Korea), has lived his entire life, from birth till now, in Watkins Glen, NY.
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Well, I guess if you start out in paradise...

True story: I saw the largest horsefly in my life in Watkins Glen.
 
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