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POTUS 46.10: A New Hope

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Venn diagram that has an intersection but also parts that are just one or the other.

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Funny- the thing that I see in these two groups are the hard core hitlerites, and then the weak minded germans that ended up backing him. In spite of the occasional purges.
 
Funny- the thing that I see in these two groups are the hard core hitlerites, and then the weak minded germans that ended up backing him. In spite of the occasional purges.

The Proud Boys are the Brownshirts. They're the same Neo-Nazis we see in Ukraine, Germany, France, Britain. Unemployable, uneducated losers looking for a truncheon and a colored head to smash.

Qberts are the paranoids and suckers who fall for Jerry Falwell, Alex Jones, Art Bell, Glenn Beck. They don't have politics, they have fears to be exploited and pockets to be picked. It's either this or MLM.
 
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The Proud Boys are the Brownshirts. They're the same Neo-Nazis we see in Ukraine, Germany, France, Britain. Unemployable, uneducated losers looking for a truncheon and a colored head to smash.

Qberts are the paranoids and suckers who fall for Jerry Falwell, Alex Jones, Art Bell, Glenn Beck. They don't have politics, they have fears to be exploited and pockets to be picked. It's either this or MLM.

And that's why people think the Proud Boys will be recruiting Qs. Simple minded enough to actually believe the BS.
 
And that's why people think the Proud Boys will be recruiting Qs. Simple minded enough to actually believe the BS.

The Proud Boys do have recruitment campaigns where they save the hardcore racist stuff for later after the sucker is committed.

The 3%ers and the Oath Keepers do the same thing. They start with gun humping, then transition to the racism and misogyny.

You could say the GOP does the same thing with "fiscal conservatism" as a loss leader.

Hook the derp, then reel him in.

Intel agencies use exactly the same tactics to recruit assets.
 
So you think they wont cross hatch? MSNBC has an article suggesting that the white supremacists are recruiting through Q. And given that 1/6 was a mix of both Q and white supremacists, forgive me for not thinking they hate each other that much.

White Supremacists in general yes they do. Proud Boys do not. They look at Q followers as weak and stupid.

Not all Nazis are the same and they denigrate each other. Proud Boys have testosterone issues and they take it out on anyone they feel is soft.

The problem with MSNBC is they don't put any nuance behind what they are talking about. They lump everything together and don't actually research any of it. Proud Boys are bullies and the Qs are bullied. If the Proud Boys went looking to recruit Qs it would be to be their flunkies they push around. Proud Boys would be Biff Tannen and the Qs would be the hangers on just trying to look tough when they make fun of George McFly. (like Billy Zane!) But make no mistake they do not like them and would purge them without a second's hesitation. Qucumbers are pets...
 
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The Proud Boys are the Brownshirts. They're the same Neo-Nazis we see in Ukraine, Germany, France, Britain. Unemployable, uneducated losers looking for a truncheon and a colored head to smash.

Qberts are the paranoids and suckers who fall for Jerry Falwell, Alex Jones, Art Bell, Glenn Beck. They don't have politics, they have fears to be exploited and pockets to be picked. It's either this or MLM.

Bingo.
 
The Proud Boys do have recruitment campaigns where they save the hardcore racist stuff for later after the sucker is committed.

The 3%ers and the Oath Keepers do the same thing. They start with gun humping, then transition to the racism and misogyny.

You could say the GOP does the same thing with "fiscal conservatism" as a loss leader.

Hook the derp, then reel him in.

Intel agencies use exactly the same tactics to recruit assets.

I watched a recent episode of America's Hidden Stories about the making of the KKK film The Toll of Justice in 1923. It was their attempt to snow the American public via film about their 'good side' - such as you should be born in the US, you should be Protestant and you should be white, while ignoring all their other pesky attributes in the process. What they didn't realize was nearly every movie house in the U.S. at the time was owned by THE JEWS and it didn't make for good distribution.
 
I had no idea that oldey movies houses were (((owned.)))) I thought it was mainly the studios and the movie houses in the 20s were still locally owned refurbed theaters and thus whatever the local demo was (i.e., 95% of the time not Jews).

That's very interesting.

They should have shut down Birth of a Nation.
 
I see Kevin McCarthy has already backed off blaming Trump for the attack on the Capitol...must have had some fundraising issues.
 
Goebbels is looking for a new job.

Michael Pack, the controversial CEO of the U.S. Agency for Global Media (USAGM), has resigned from his post.

USAGM said in a statement on Thursday that Pack resigned Wednesday after being notified by the Biden administration that he would be removed.

President Biden has nominated Kelu Chao, a veteran journalist who served as program director for Voice of America (VOA), as acting CEO until a permanent replacement is confirmed by the Senate.

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Pack, a conservative filmmaker, was confirmed by the Senate in June and his months-long tenure at the agency was marked by intense controversy and scrutiny over his actions, with critics accusing him of politicizing the agency and carrying out acts of retribution against staff he accused of having an anti-Trump bias.

A federal judge ruled in November that Pack was unconstitutionally interfering and investigating the broadcasts under his authority, including Voice of America and its partner networks, saying the CEO was violating journalists' First Amendment rights. NPR reported that Pack spent $2 million of taxpayer funds on investigations of journalists under the banner of the U.S. Agency for Global Media over claims of bias.

He entered the role under investigation by the District Attorney for the District of Columbia, which filed suit earlier this month against Pack's nonprofit film company Public Media Lab, for funneling millions of dollars to Pack's for-profit production company Manifold productions.

Pack drew fire from Democratic and Republican lawmakers alike for ignoring a subpoena to testify before a House panel over several controversies, including his widespread firings of the heads of multiple broadcast agencies and halting funds for the U.S. Open Technology Fund.

This piece of trash didn't just lose his job, given that penultimate paragraph his obvious lateral transition to OAN director will be soon interrupted as he may be joining many of his Nazi colleagues in prison.

Nation of laws, muthaf-cka.

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The Nazis' gotcha questions during the press conference are risible, and The Lovely Jen Psaki handles them wonderfully, but I don't think she should take their questions at all. They are not journalists, they are Republican assets.

In all sincerity, the administration should look into pulling their press credentials. I guess Fox is impossible since it's so big, but even with them their constant lying has to be in some way accounted for. It doesn't matter if they are popular if they are fanning the insurrection. In fact, quite the opposite.
 
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The Nazis' gotcha questions during the press conference are risible, and The Lovely Jen Psaki handles them wonderfully, but I don't think she should take their questions at all. They are not journalists, they are Republican assets.

In all sincerity, the administration should look into pulling their press credentials. I guess Fox is impossible since it's so big, but even with them their constant lying has to be in some way accounted for. It doesn't matter if they are popular if they are fanning the insurrection. In fact, quite the opposite.

While it seems like a good idea, they wont. It's better to evade the question (and not lie) than it would be to ban them. They would go screaming First Amendment- the world is ending. And faux would run all over that, too- completely ignoring how dumpy treated reporters- there will be hypocrisy. Still, evasion is better than taking things out. Even if the press secretary just says "what kind of question is that" will be better.
 
While it seems like a good idea, they wont. It's better to evade the question (and not lie) than it would be to ban them. They would go screaming First Amendment- the world is ending. And faux would run all over that, too- completely ignoring how dumpy treated reporters- there will be hypocrisy. Still, evasion is better than taking things out. Even if the press secretary just says "what kind of question is that" will be better.

While I get all that, there comes a point when you just ignore them because they are no longer entitled to even be in the conversation.

If Stormfront (which must be hopping mad and suing OAN for copyright infringement) demanded press credentials nobody would bat an eye when they screamed First Amendment after being denied.

Welp, OAN and Newsmax are at the level of Stormfront. Fox, while marginally better, still incited the insurrection. So at some point... who cares if they scream? Sedition means not having to say you're sorry for showing these dirtbags the door.

We are dealing with actual terrorists.
 
The Nazis' gotcha questions during the press conference are risible, and The Lovely Jen Psaki handles them wonderfully, but I don't think she should take their questions at all. They are not journalists, they are Republican assets.

In all sincerity, the administration should look into pulling their press credentials. I guess Fox is impossible since it's so big, but even with them their constant lying has to be in some way accounted for. It doesn't matter if they are popular if they are fanning the insurrection. In fact, quite the opposite.

Would be quite a twist if all of a sudden they are the ones who are gung ho on wearing masks.
 
Which of the reporters were from the Nazi Networks? The old lady who always asks about "uniting"? The young Aryan looking clown? I guess I never paid attention...
 
Which of the reporters were from the Nazi Networks? The old lady who always asks about "uniting"? The young Aryan looking clown? I guess I never paid attention...

There were a couple guys. One has white hair, one looked like the clone from Boys from Brazil. I wish they would ID themselves so I could ignore their questions but as soon as they open their yap you can tell.

Edit: OK, I looked it up. One was Peter Doocy from Fox, with the inane mask question. Psaki straight up laughed at him. The other one whined why Biden mean to Nazis?, not name even one Nazi cabinet member?, I HAZ SAD! CAN'T YOU SEE ME WHITE!?

Psaki blew them both away easily enough but it was the kind of middle school stuff that impresses a rightwing audience. They aren't a threat, they're just wasting everybody's time.

Mostly I advocate ignoring the right -- from media to Members to voters to posters -- because they only waste our time. They're children making fart noises while adults are fighting fires.
 
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