POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

Lets hope this sticks it to all young 'uns who decided to sit this last election out or voted Gary Johnson (who in all probability would support something like this because freedom and all that).

You still have egg on your face from your predictions. All this fulminating doesn't change that.

Want to win? Run a candidate people don't despise.

 

[Handyman]

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While I agree that a "bombing bump" may be quite similar to a "convention bump" I don't know where you are getting the idea that the Syria bombing was overwhelmingly disapproved by Americans. CNN reported nearly 60% SUPPORTED the bombing. I've read other articles that noted even a large minority of Democrats supported it.

I reaqd a Gallup poll about it...apparently sentiment has changed. My point still stands though.

 

[Handyman]

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You still have egg on your face from your predictions. All this fulminating doesn't change that.

Want to win? Run a candidate people don't despise.

Like who? If you think the people wont despise whoever is up as a Dem I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. You can still vote for who you dont like though. If Dems did that more they might actually be a legit party.

Lets not forget that candidate beat Bernie and did so pretty easily.

And if you are right...then shame on the Dems they are more to blame for this than the GOP and the Trumpers are. And that doesnt give me much confidence they will fix it in 4 years because if they dont get who they like they will just stay home again.

 

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

Like who? If you think the people wont despise whoever is up as a Dem I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. You can still vote for who you dont like though. If Dems did that more they might actually be a legit party.

Lets not forget that candidate beat Bernie and did so pretty easily.

And if you are right...then shame on the Dems they are more to blame for this than the GOP and the Trumpers are. And that doesnt give me much confidence they will fix it in 4 years because if they dont get who they like they will just stay home again.

I've answered each of these points a thousand times. In brief, (1) anyone, it's a matter of degree and 25 years prep time, (2) with the DNC cheating all the way, and (3) I absolutely blame the Dems as much as the GOP. That election was the ultimate Giant D-uche vs Sh-t Sandwich.

 

[Handyman]

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Hey I hated Hillary as much as anyone but I didnt think twice about voting for her and I am not even in her party. Liberals and their principles are always going to get in the way of themselves.

To paraphrase the movie The Rock "Their principles...Democrats always whine about their principles while the GOP goes to Washington and ####s the country!"

 

[Kepler]

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Hey I hated Hillary as much as anyone but I didnt think twice about voting for her and I am not even in her party. Liberals and their principles are always going to get in the way of themselves.

Except I'm an arch liberal and I didn't think twice about voting for her.

 

[Handyman]

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Except I'm an arch liberal and I didn't think twice about voting for her.

Yeah but you also understand the game

 

[unofan]

I've answered each of these points a thousand times. In brief, (1) anyone, it's a matter of degree and 25 years prep time, (2) with the DNC cheating all the way, and (3) I absolutely blame the Dems as much as the GOP. That election was the ultimate Giant D-uche vs Sh-t Sandwich.

2) they didn't cheat, Bernie lost. And to the extent leaders favored Hillary over Bernie, no shiat. She'd been a party member for decades, and he hadn't been one for even a year.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Liberals and their principles are always going to get in the way of themselves.

This is so true.

I really loathe a lot of liberals even though I am mostly one myself.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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You still have egg on your face from your predictions. All this fulminating doesn't change that.

Want to win? Run a candidate people don't despise.

LOL. Pretty hard to do. Everyone hated Kerry for some reason. Still don't understand why. And what was so loveable about Trump? The double standard will always be there and that's why picking and choosing one reason over another will never work.

That's why the mindless automatons will always win. They will vote for someone they loathe as long as they get to stack the Court. Democrats? They can't be bothered voting for Clinton to win the Court back for the first time in ~50 years.

 

[Handyman]

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Bernie was not cheated. People who even pretend that is true sound as ludicrous as Trump when he was claiming everything was rigged. Bernie lost because he wasnt a Democrat and because he promised big with no real plan. He lost every major state and almost all the primaries despite raising lots of money and being quite well noticed. He lost, he wasnt cheated.

And I say that is one of the first Bernie supporters on this board.

 

[Handyman]

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LOL. Pretty hard to do. Everyone hated Kerry for some reason. Still don't understand why. And what was so loveable about Trump? The double standard will always be there and that's why picking and choosing one reason over another will never work.

That's why the mindless automatons will always win. They will vote for someone they loathe as long as they get to stack the Court. Democrats? They can't be bothered voting for Clinton to win the Court back for the first time in ~50 years.

Scooby is right. The GOP put the SC on the ballot...the Dems/Liberals had a chance to win it back (and to prevent a seat being stolen) but they couldnt be bothered to do it.

So while it ticks me off what Trump is doing to Planned Parenthood...I feel less sorry for women right now because of how they voted. (or didnt vote) Elections have consequences and apparently women would rather have no birth control than vote for a woman.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Perhaps the moral from South Park's "Episode 201" was right after all... http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...s-migrants-disappear-from-mexican-border.html

 

[Rover]

Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

Bernie was not cheated. People who even pretend that is true sound as ludicrous as Trump when he was claiming everything was rigged. Bernie lost because he wasnt a Democrat and because he promised big with no real plan. He lost every major state and almost all the primaries despite raising lots of money and being quite well noticed. He lost, he wasnt cheated.

And I say that is one of the first Bernie supporters on this board.

Pains me to write this but people like Kep are the problem. The hard core, absolutist, conspiracy theorist liberal who will make a public spectacle of martyring himself for the party's nominee but will let you know every chance he gets with a haughty sniff of disapproval that he's holding his nose while doing so. Then he'll wonder in the next breath why Dem enthusiasm is down. Reasoning with Kep isn't worth it. I've asked him repeatedly while good liberals like Feingold drew less votes than Clinton did in their own states, but have received no answer because he can't wrap that into a Bernie got screwed meme. I've also asked him where Dem voters were in 2010 and 2014, where to the best of my knowledge Hillary wasn't on the ballot. Not a word. Just brilliant strategist DWS cheated Sanders out of the nomination...

But others out here have it right. Republicans will happily vote R and then sort out their differences once in office, or not as we're seeing currently but they're doing so from a position of the majority. Kep inspired Dems will either vote for a mirror image of themselves or not vote. Small wonder then where we've ended up...

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Not only will trump not release visitor logs, they will be kept secret for five years after he's done .

Nope nothing to hide.

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...tration-wont-release-white-house-visitor-logs

 

[ericredaxe]

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Scooby is right. The GOP put the SC on the ballot...the Dems/Liberals had a chance to win it back (and to prevent a seat being stolen) but they couldnt be bothered to do it.

They did put the SC on the ballot, but honestly I'm not convinced that is why the average voter who swung the election in Michigan, Wisconsin and coal country PA voted for Trump. More likely they were voting for the hope of a better economic improvement for themselves.

I'm sure that his list of possible nominees did help energize the base though...

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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They did put the SC on the ballot, but honestly I'm not convinced that is why the average voter who swung the election in Michigan, Wisconsin and coal country PA voted for Trump. More likely they were voting for the hope of a better economic improvement for themselves.

How's that working out?

 

[E.J. Smith]

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Welp.

The Associated Press‏Verified account

BREAKING: President Donald Trump: "We're not getting along with Russia at all," relations at an "all-time low.

Yes, worse than the Cuban Missile Crisis. Worse than shooting down Gary Powers in the U2 spy plane. Worse than that minor 4-decade long thing generally known as the Cold War. Worse than all of that.

What is it about this putz that everything associated with him has to be the superlative? This is the type of narcissistic blow hard clown you’d do everything you could to avoid running into in the driveway if he lived next to you, and yet he’s the freaking POTUS. What in the h#!! is wrong with people?

 

[French Rage]

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They did put the SC on the ballot, but honestly I'm not convinced that is why the average voter who swung the election in Michigan, Wisconsin and coal country PA voted for Trump. More likely they were voting for the hope of a better economic improvement for themselves.

I'm sure that his list of possible nominees did help energize the base though...

Wait, they said they wanted the people to speak on the SC and more people voted for Hillary.

Or did they mean that they wanted to people to speak through the results of the Electoral College?

You can understand my confusion, since they basically completely made up the whole "can't confirm during an election year" rule and then changed it to the "can't appoint during an election year" rule, it's hard to truly understand what their bull**** and ever-changing rules on SC nominations are.

 

[Handyman]

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Wait, they said they wanted the people to speak on the SC and more people voted for Hillary.

Or did they mean that they wanted to people to speak through the results of the Electoral College?

You can understand my confusion, since they basically completely made up the whole "can't confirm during an election year" rule and then changed it to the "can't appoint during an election year" rule, it's hard to truly understand what their bull**** and ever-changing rules on SC nominations are.

Be prepared...false equivalencies coming