POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

[Jimjamesak]

It's one thing to screw over Democrats and break into the DNC. It's another thing to actively commit crimes against the country in collusion with a hostile state. It's another thing to be bribed by another country and work against the people.

A blanket pardon would seal Pence to the same fate as Ford.

And that's assuming he doesn't go down with the ship as well...

 

[St. Clown]

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And that's assuming he doesn't go down with the ship as well...

Yeah, if Pence was in those meetings, and he goes down too, does it go to the President Pro Tempe (SP?) of the Senate or the Speaker of the House for next in the line of succession?

 

[bronconick]

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Yeah, if Pence was in those meetings, and he goes down too, does it go to the President Pro Tempe (SP?) of the Senate or the Speaker of the House for next in the line of succession?

The 46th President of the United States, Paul Ryan.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Yeah, if Pence was in those meetings, and he goes down too, does it go to the President Pro Tempe (SP?) of the Senate or the Speaker of the House for next in the line of succession?

Speaker of the House.

Yeah, President Paul Ryan. :barf:

 

[St. Clown]

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Speaker of the House.

Yeah, President Paul Ryan. :barf:

Think of it this way - would you want the GOP's puppet or the puppet master being front and center on camera? The puppet master can often times hide, but not in this situation.

Also, Ryan, for all his policy flaws, would at least have some presidential bearing in how he would deal with world leaders. Hair Furor has proven himself to not have that ability.

 

[Rogie21]

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"When you are given immunity, that means you have probably committed a crime."

These Trumpian bleats should get a bazillion plays on cable and the Web today:

Trump attacked Clinton's aides repeatedly on the campaign trail for seeking immunity in exchange for their testimony in the investigation of Clinton's use of a private email server while she was serving as secretary of state.

"The reason they get immunity is because they did something wrong, if they didn’t do anything wrong, they don’t think in terms of immunity," he said at a rally in Wisconsin last September.

At another rally in Florida the day before, Trump asked, "If you are not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for? Right

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[ScoobyDoo]

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It's unreal that Mr. Lock Her Up is now asking for immunity. It's not even comprehensible to me. It's also incomprehensible that everything they said was wrong with Clinton was wrong with them the whole ****ing time.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration does it again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/...m-lawsuit.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Student Loan Forgiveness Program Approval Letters May Be Invalid, Education Dept. Says

 

[Handyman]

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It's unreal that Mr. Lock Her Up is now asking for immunity. It's not even comprehensible to me. It's also incomprehensible that everything they said was wrong with Clinton was wrong with them the whole ****ing time.

Well we all knew that...but all we heard was how horrible she was. Notice even the passive Trump defenders are staying silent now because they dont have a leg to stand on. Sicatoka conveniently disappeared right about the time it was all but proven Trump and his cronies did everything he pretended Hillary did.

As much as I think Pence deserves the same fate as Trump...no way they both go down. Congress would never impeach them both and Pence is closer to their agenda than Trump is. Pence will get trounced in the generals though because he isnt as charismatic as Trump and cant play the outsider card.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Well we all knew that...but all we heard was how horrible she was. Notice even the passive Trump defenders are staying silent now because they dont have a leg to stand on. Sicatoka conveniently disappeared right about the time it was all but proven Trump and his cronies did everything he pretended Hillary did.

As much as I think Pence deserves the same fate as Trump...no way they both go down. Congress would never impeach them both and Pence is closer to their agenda than Trump is. Pence will get trounced in the generals though because he isnt as charismatic as Trump and cant play the outsider card.

Democrats will be able to get away with blocking everything Pence attempts to do because he wasn't elected President.

Assuming they're even able to get rid of Trump in the first place.

 

[Handyman]

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I am not sure you can pin the Fedloan scam on the Trump Administration...

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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I am not sure you can pin the Fedloan scam on the Trump Administration...

Probably not. But it's the kind of thing a new administration and a new Secretary could fix. There is no way this gets fixed by this clown show.

 

[Kepler]

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As much as I think Pence deserves the same fate as Trump...no way they both go down. Congress would never impeach them both and Pence is closer to their agenda than Trump is. Pence will get trounced in the generals though because he isnt as charismatic as Trump and cant play the outsider card.

Pence is a terrible choice for the country with a disgusting social agenda. None of that is a valid reason for him to be impeached. As far as we are aware so far, he didn't commit any crimes or consort with foreign powers. He just has a hateful ideology.

But this is all moot. The members of this Republican party have neither the virtue nor the courage to impeach Trump. They care only about themselves and the people who bribe them. Citizenship and patriotism mean nothing to them. Democratic institutions and the rule of law mean nothing to them. They will do nothing.

 

[jerphisch]

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Pence is a terrible choice for the country with a disgusting social agenda. None of that is a valid reason for him to be impeached. As far as we are aware so far, he didn't commit any crimes or consort with foreign powers. He just has a hateful ideology.

But this is all moot. The members of this Republican party have neither the virtue nor the courage to impeach Trump. They care only about themselves and the people who bribe them. Citizenship and patriotism mean nothing to them. Democratic institutions and the rule of law mean nothing to them. They will do nothing.

We already know that Pence lied about his knowledge of the Flynn situation, I wouldn't be so quick to assume his innocence.

 

[Kepler]

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We already know that Pence lied about his knowledge of the Flynn situation, I wouldn't be so quick to assume his innocence.

Well, the longer he's out there the more he will implicate himself. These guys think not being caught in a lie is the same as telling the truth. The whole bunch of them would perjure themselves happily if they ever had to take the stand. But as long as their own criminal organization controls the docket they won't have to.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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The 46th President of the United States, Paul Ryan.

Civil War II, guaranteed.

 

[jericho]

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Yeah, if Pence was in those meetings, and he goes down too, does it go to the President Pro Tempe (SP?) of the Senate or the Speaker of the House for next in the line of succession?

Vice President Mike Pence (R)
Speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan (R)
President pro tempore of the Senate Orrin Hatch (R)
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson (R)
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin (R)
Secretary of Defense James Mattis (I)
Attorney General Jeff Sessions (R)
Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke (R)
Secretary of Agriculture Mike Young (D)[a]
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross (R)
Secretary of Labor Ed Hugler (I)[a]
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price (R)
Secretary of HUD Tom Kirkman it's actually Ben Carson
Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao (R)
Secretary of Energy Rick Perry (R)
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos (R)
Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin (I)
Secretary of Homeland Security John F. Kelly (I)

 

[St. Clown]

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Well, the longer he's out there the more he will implicate himself. These guys think not being caught in a lie is the same as telling the truth. The whole bunch of them would perjure themselves happily if they ever had to take the stand. But as long as their own criminal organization controls the docket they won't have to.

Well, since Ryan stands the most to gain by the POTUS and VPOTUS going away, and Ryan could talk with McConnell about removing a guy who's willing to throw them both under the biggest buses he can find. They both have large egos, like 99% of all politicians, and Hair Furor started early with his efforts of publicly burning bridges within the GOP. It's not entirely out of the realm. Trump could still be seen as the outsider who connived his way into the inner sanctum of Party HQ. We may yet see a time when it's time to purge themselves of the interloper.

 

[Kepler]

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Nom nom nom.

 

[bronconick]

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With Republicans, you have to look at everything through a political lens. If Trump sits into the 25-30% approval rating through next spring, they'll suddenly impeach him to save their hides in the 2018 midterms.

 

[Kepler]

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Civil War II, guaranteed.

Gotta stop saying stuff like that, even in jest. This sh-t aint funny, and it can absolutely happen here. A quarter of the males in this country are slack-jawed hayseed double Y chromos armed to the teeth, terrified of anybody with a skin tone lighter than Ivory soap, and utterly convinced that their own personal Jesus will bless them and put them in Forever HLE for killing a Muslim, atheist, or college graduate.

So ixne on the ivilwarce until we're off this rock and bound for the stars. The gorillas aren't quick, but they are violent.