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POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
A bond is a loan. Loans are classified as notes, bills, and bonds. Bonds are long-term (5+ years, I think), bills intermediate-term, and notes are short-term (<90 days).
A bond is a loan. Loans are classified as notes, bills, and bonds. Bonds are long-term (5+ years, I think), bills intermediate-term, and notes are short-term (<90 days).
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
One of the comments makes a note that this appears to be a transcription error on the part of CBS. Paul Ryan actually says, "I haven't seen" and CBS transcribed it as "I have seen".
One of the comments makes a note that this appears to be a transcription error on the part of CBS. Paul Ryan actually says, "I haven't seen" and CBS transcribed it as "I have seen".
unofan
Well-known member
2.7 million / 500 customers = $5400 per customer on average.
Call it a twenty year bond, that'd be $270 per customer per year, not counting interest. Divide that by 12 and you get monthly payments of $22.50 plus interest. I don't have time to do the math on a sample amortization schedule that would include interest. But it'd probably be less than $30 / month.
But keep in mind that's on top of their current bill, and in a part of the country that likely isn't wealthy to begin with.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
Also, I love this e-mail exchange with my dad when the ACHA went down in flames:
Me: So this means the republicans are two parties now, right?
Dad: It is still much in flux, but looks like the two Republican parties (Ryan/mainstream, Freedom Caucus) are now 4 four parties (Ryan/mainstream, Freedom Caucus, Tuesday Caucus/moderates, Trump ultimatum).
*about five minutes after the announcement they were pulling the bill*
Dad: Kaboom! Into a billion tiny Republican pieces.
I was in a meeting when I received it. Almost passed out trying not to laugh.
Also, I love this e-mail exchange with my dad when the ACHA went down in flames:
Me: So this means the republicans are two parties now, right?
Dad: It is still much in flux, but looks like the two Republican parties (Ryan/mainstream, Freedom Caucus) are now 4 four parties (Ryan/mainstream, Freedom Caucus, Tuesday Caucus/moderates, Trump ultimatum).
*about five minutes after the announcement they were pulling the bill*
Dad: Kaboom! Into a billion tiny Republican pieces.
I was in a meeting when I received it. Almost passed out trying not to laugh.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Thank you.
Sure slapping each property with a $20 a month bill sounds easy, but that's 2.7 Million divided by 500 properties, divided by $20 a month, divided by 12 months in a year = 22.5 Months to repay the loan. Saying that this community doesn't shrink over those 22.5 years.
And, the municipality likely doesn't have a good enough credit rating to secure a long term loan.
AND, these locals would likely vote no to any tax increase to repay the bond.
So, in essence, Wisco is full of sh**.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
Every minute Ryan is having an internal battle...to defend Don or not to. His lies back up the assertion. He knows he is screwed right now and isnt sure which he prefers to be bent over a barrel by the House GOP or be treated the same then peed on by King Tiny***** McSmallHands
Couldnt happen to a bigger POS
Every minute Ryan is having an internal battle...to defend Don or not to. His lies back up the assertion. He knows he is screwed right now and isnt sure which he prefers to be bent over a barrel by the House GOP or be treated the same then peed on by King Tiny***** McSmallHands
Couldnt happen to a bigger POS
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
Have you ever used the pre-designed loan amortization tool in MS Excel? It's a pretty nifty little tool they have there. It even lets you play with irregular payments if you want to pay an extra $1000 once a year and see how that impacts the remaining principle.
Have you ever used the pre-designed loan amortization tool in MS Excel? It's a pretty nifty little tool they have there. It even lets you play with irregular payments if you want to pay an extra $1000 once a year and see how that impacts the remaining principle.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
Hey, Republicans. **** you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/...orpyrifos.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
Hey, Republicans. **** you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/...orpyrifos.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
rufus
rock and roller
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
And I thought this is why they voted for Trump, they were bleeding, and were sick and tired of it, and he was gonna make it stop.
I guess they don't mind getting cut, as long as the guy wielding the knife is some rich white guy.
And I thought this is why they voted for Trump, they were bleeding, and were sick and tired of it, and he was gonna make it stop.
I guess they don't mind getting cut, as long as the guy wielding the knife is some rich white guy.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
Well I'm certainly going to go with your conclusion even though you just said you don't know what you're talking about.
About 10 years ago, I lived in a village of 800 that did this and I had dinner with the Village President pretty much every Friday. My Dad just did this last year as he's been on the board in his rural town for about 8 years. Admittedly I originally did the math in my head, so I took 5 minutes and looked up the demographics for Strong City and Cottonwood Falls, the cities in question. (FYI-Cottonwood Falls is home to the oldest continuously used courthouse west of the Mississippi. Also Knute Rockne died in a plane crash very near there.) If I apply the same methodology I've seen used elsewhere I can make it (conservatively) $15/month for residents. Which is still just an average as you're generally charged out by usage in combination with a flat fee. (The flat water and sewer fee there is currently $20. Mine is $96.) Consider that currently, a new wastewater treatment facility has a life expectancy of 50 years so you'd be unlikely to limit yourself to a 20 year bond issue on it and that usage at businesses like hotels etc. is obviously much greater than in homes. As far as credit rating goes, these small municipal bonds are usually issued through the county (occasionally through the state) not on their own.
And lastly, the only point to this was simply that these people would be unlikely to actually die from thirst or poisoned water if there were no Federal government grant. Sorry.
Well I'm certainly going to go with your conclusion even though you just said you don't know what you're talking about.
About 10 years ago, I lived in a village of 800 that did this and I had dinner with the Village President pretty much every Friday. My Dad just did this last year as he's been on the board in his rural town for about 8 years. Admittedly I originally did the math in my head, so I took 5 minutes and looked up the demographics for Strong City and Cottonwood Falls, the cities in question. (FYI-Cottonwood Falls is home to the oldest continuously used courthouse west of the Mississippi. Also Knute Rockne died in a plane crash very near there.) If I apply the same methodology I've seen used elsewhere I can make it (conservatively) $15/month for residents. Which is still just an average as you're generally charged out by usage in combination with a flat fee. (The flat water and sewer fee there is currently $20. Mine is $96.) Consider that currently, a new wastewater treatment facility has a life expectancy of 50 years so you'd be unlikely to limit yourself to a 20 year bond issue on it and that usage at businesses like hotels etc. is obviously much greater than in homes. As far as credit rating goes, these small municipal bonds are usually issued through the county (occasionally through the state) not on their own.
And lastly, the only point to this was simply that these people would be unlikely to actually die from thirst or poisoned water if there were no Federal government grant. Sorry.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
Must be a Monsanto company.
Must be a Monsanto company.
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
By stating that at least half the country is poor and uneducated while you claim to be the exact opposite is completely elitist. I don't know how you could read that post without coming to the conclusion that you think you are better then the group you are referring. I personally don't want to see anyone hurting or struggling, but you make it sound like you are okay with that.
But if you want to talk generalizations, okay. Liberals are typically the ones more easily offended and need to be coddled. All the lawsuits out there come to mind. So your statement about patronizing the group is puzzling to me.
By stating that at least half the country is poor and uneducated while you claim to be the exact opposite is completely elitist. I don't know how you could read that post without coming to the conclusion that you think you are better then the group you are referring. I personally don't want to see anyone hurting or struggling, but you make it sound like you are okay with that.
But if you want to talk generalizations, okay. Liberals are typically the ones more easily offended and need to be coddled. All the lawsuits out there come to mind. So your statement about patronizing the group is puzzling to me.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
Show me where I said that. Further, show me where I said being poor or uneducated was negative.
I'm not responsible for your neuroses. You'll need to take that up with your parents.
Triage. Given infinite time and resources we should help everyone, but since there are scarcities we have to start with people who aren't actively trying to make everyone else hurting or struggling. GOP economic policies have taken the most successful nation in history with the deepest and widest middle class and turned it into a third world country with a few Haves and an ocean of Have Nots. Having wrecked our economy, now they're starting in on our democracy. Fifty years of pleading with the white working class to vote with reason rather than spitefully giving the middle finger to minorities has not worked, and the tremendous waste of energy in the effort has cost us not just the American Dream but now even the American Model as the world's last best hope.
If you gave half the effort into combating the reality of the plutocratic destruction of America that you do to your peevish sensitivity towards language, you might actually help somebody.
That's still not a generalization. You're supposed to say something like "ALL LIBRULS ARE... hurr durr." Jesus, put some back into it.
Or better still get over yourself and start fighting the people who are actually doing the damage in this country. Not every member of an alliance has to be your little snoogums. Give it a rest until we put these f-cks back in the far right / zero power box where they belong and then we can have our duel at 20 paces or whatever. Neither of us can spare the time right now. Help or shut up.
Show me where I said that. Further, show me where I said being poor or uneducated was negative.
I'm not responsible for your neuroses. You'll need to take that up with your parents.
Triage. Given infinite time and resources we should help everyone, but since there are scarcities we have to start with people who aren't actively trying to make everyone else hurting or struggling. GOP economic policies have taken the most successful nation in history with the deepest and widest middle class and turned it into a third world country with a few Haves and an ocean of Have Nots. Having wrecked our economy, now they're starting in on our democracy. Fifty years of pleading with the white working class to vote with reason rather than spitefully giving the middle finger to minorities has not worked, and the tremendous waste of energy in the effort has cost us not just the American Dream but now even the American Model as the world's last best hope.
If you gave half the effort into combating the reality of the plutocratic destruction of America that you do to your peevish sensitivity towards language, you might actually help somebody.
That's still not a generalization. You're supposed to say something like "ALL LIBRULS ARE... hurr durr." Jesus, put some back into it.
Or better still get over yourself and start fighting the people who are actually doing the damage in this country. Not every member of an alliance has to be your little snoogums. Give it a rest until we put these f-cks back in the far right / zero power box where they belong and then we can have our duel at 20 paces or whatever. Neither of us can spare the time right now. Help or shut up.
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aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
FBI Director James Comey brags about having a super secret Twitter account.
Ashley Feinberg (Gawker Media) spent four hours looking and cracked the case.
http://gizmodo.com/this-is-almost-certainly-james-comey-s-twitter-account-1793843641
FBI Director James Comey brags about having a super secret Twitter account.
Ashley Feinberg (Gawker Media) spent four hours looking and cracked the case.
http://gizmodo.com/this-is-almost-certainly-james-comey-s-twitter-account-1793843641
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?
If people dont want to do what is in their best interests that is their flipping problem. If a bunch of people in Kansas/Wisconsin want to vote for people that destroy their schools and their economy (multiple times in both cases) then too bad for them. There is nothing wrong with being a Republican or a Conservative but when things crap the bed for them (and they almost always do) I am not going to waste one second letting my heart bleed for them.
I wasnt always this way, but then they helped elect a clown as the head of the Free World...a man so unqualified and so ridiculous and hateful that he makes George W. Bush look like General Marshall. This is what they wanted, well they got it. When they get black lung from working in the mines cause they were too lazy or too bull headed to learn a different trade, well thems the breaks. When they knock up their girlfriend and cant get an abortion...oh well. When they lose their job and cant get food stamps or unemployment and Medicare/Medicaid cant help them because it has been gutted...sucks to be them. When they get diseases from use of pesticides that everyone knows makes people sick...they have no one to blame but themselves. When their water can be set on fire or makes Mexican Water look like Evian...well you know.
They knew what was coming, they were told by the clown they elected what he was going to do. They chose to either blissfully ignore that it could effect them or didnt care. Well...see...I am a white middle class male in his 30s living in the suburbs of a very liberal state that has one of the highest standards of living in the country so I am fine. They made my life better. They screwed over pretty much everyone else though (including themselves) so I feel no real sympathy for them. Elections have consequences and they are feeling them.
BTW this also goes for any nimrod that supported Johnson or Stein (those two arent qualified to run a Foot Locker) and any of the dumbass Bernie Bros who either abstained or voted against the Dems. You lost your right to beg for help the second you decided your ideas were more important than what is best for the country.
I hate that it needs to be like this, but if they are going to hate us if we try and help them (which they do) and they are going to hate us if we dont (which they do) why the hell should I care anymore? I will help those that want it and are wiling to help others as well.
If people dont want to do what is in their best interests that is their flipping problem. If a bunch of people in Kansas/Wisconsin want to vote for people that destroy their schools and their economy (multiple times in both cases) then too bad for them. There is nothing wrong with being a Republican or a Conservative but when things crap the bed for them (and they almost always do) I am not going to waste one second letting my heart bleed for them.
I wasnt always this way, but then they helped elect a clown as the head of the Free World...a man so unqualified and so ridiculous and hateful that he makes George W. Bush look like General Marshall. This is what they wanted, well they got it. When they get black lung from working in the mines cause they were too lazy or too bull headed to learn a different trade, well thems the breaks. When they knock up their girlfriend and cant get an abortion...oh well. When they lose their job and cant get food stamps or unemployment and Medicare/Medicaid cant help them because it has been gutted...sucks to be them. When they get diseases from use of pesticides that everyone knows makes people sick...they have no one to blame but themselves. When their water can be set on fire or makes Mexican Water look like Evian...well you know.
They knew what was coming, they were told by the clown they elected what he was going to do. They chose to either blissfully ignore that it could effect them or didnt care. Well...see...I am a white middle class male in his 30s living in the suburbs of a very liberal state that has one of the highest standards of living in the country so I am fine. They made my life better. They screwed over pretty much everyone else though (including themselves) so I feel no real sympathy for them. Elections have consequences and they are feeling them.
BTW this also goes for any nimrod that supported Johnson or Stein (those two arent qualified to run a Foot Locker) and any of the dumbass Bernie Bros who either abstained or voted against the Dems. You lost your right to beg for help the second you decided your ideas were more important than what is best for the country.
I hate that it needs to be like this, but if they are going to hate us if we try and help them (which they do) and they are going to hate us if we dont (which they do) why the hell should I care anymore? I will help those that want it and are wiling to help others as well.
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