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WeAreNDHockey said:
The New York Times has zero credibility. I'm not saying everything they print is incorrect or lacks fact-checking. Probably most of it is reasonably accurate. But anyone who reads anything in the Times without eyeing another source for confirmation on a topic is just asking to be mis-informed (or lied to). I do think Haberman's conflicts (and potential conflicts) of interest are numerous. She should be avoided at all costs. While it is interesting and funny to read that trump was flushing more than just his stool down White House toilets, in the end did anyone really need to read that to know he was violating all sorts of record keeping laws? Not likely.
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Apparently yes. Because he's NOT IN JAIL YET. I would be in jail. You would be in jail.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
The New York Times has zero credibility.
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And also more credibility than any other newspaper.

The NYT is the news my parents want to hear, in the same way that Fox News is the news Cletus and Brandine want to hear and Jacobin is the news I want to hear. None of these entities stay in business by violating the Weltanschauung of their subscribers. They are not information, they are lullabies.
 
Slap Shot said:
Even if that is true I also don't blame them given the actual likely cause - MAGAs and their predecessors have had a full-on assault of the profession for years.
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Well, in the last 5-6 years, the people who I have heard complaining the most about mainstream media have been Donald Trump and posters on this board.
 
SJHovey said:
Well, in the last 5-6 years, the people who I have heard complaining the most about mainstream media have been Donald Trump and posters on this board.
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Those complaining on this board haven't been nearly as vocal nor threatening as the MAGAs and you know this.
 
Wait, is Hovey saying that MAGA doesn't whine and complain about the media? The same MAGA who ditched Faux for saying Trump lost Arizona? The same MAGA who threatened the press from all mainstream outlets at rallies?

That is an interesting take...
 
Handyman said:
Wait, is Hovey saying that MAGA doesn't whine and complain about the media? The same MAGA who ditched Faux for saying Trump lost Arizona? The same MAGA who threatened the press from all mainstream outlets at rallies?

That is an interesting take...
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And I can't recall the last time the libbies grabbed media gear, threw it all in a pile, and set fire to it.

Then again, I don't try to "both sides" everything.
 
The best thing Hillary can do for her country is never appear in public again. Have her fundraisers with her people. But stay out of the limelight. I'm Democratic through and through but I can't see her without projectile vomiting. Everybody else other than Clintonistas have either moved beyond her or will always despise her. She is toxic. It doesn't matter if it's fair, it is the fact which matters.
 
Hey I am not advocating for her to be in public...she is part of why we are here. I am just saying everyone is enjoying the laugh she is having about it.
 
Handyman said:
Wait, is Hovey saying that MAGA doesn't whine and complain about the media? The same MAGA who ditched Faux for saying Trump lost Arizona? The same MAGA who threatened the press from all mainstream outlets at rallies?

That is an interesting take...
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My post didn't say that at all. In fact, Trump and his followers whine all the time about the mainstream media and "fake news." I just find it amusing that other than Trump and his followers, the people that I hear complaining about the mainstream media the most are you guys.
 
SJHovey said:
My post didn't say that at all. In fact, Trump and his followers whine all the time about the mainstream media and "fake news." I just find it amusing that other than Trump and his followers, the people that I hear complaining about the mainstream media the most are you guys.
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We aren't the ones calling for journalists to be sued for "libel", jailed, and/or assassinated.

Now give us your next bothsides false equivalency, please.
 
SJHovey said:
I'm not even arguing. I just think it's funny when Trump screams "fake news" about the NYT, then I come here and you and Handy scream "fake news" about the NYT.
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Wait, wait, I might have missed something.

There's a difference between Trump calling the NY Times fake news, and a bunch of posters on a niche website calling Maggie Haberman the insufferable b*tch she is because she writes (or withholds information from) her Trump pieces so that she doesn't lose her precious access when the man-baby'a feelings are hurt by the truth.
 
aparch said:
Wait, wait, I might have missed something.

There's a difference between Trump calling the NY Times fake news, and a bunch of posters on a niche website calling Maggie Haberman the insufferable b*tch she is because she writes (or withholds information from) her Trump pieces so that she doesn't lose her precious access when the man-baby'a feelings are hurt by the truth.
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All the same thing.
 
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