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POTUS 45.65: I'm Just Here For The Lincoln Project Ads
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FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
AHH, they took my frickin' kidney!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
He's not wrong... I'll give him credit here for standing up to the bully...
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
The issue with Sen. Romney speaking out on various subjects is that he cowers and retracts to the king makers. Look at his history - calls out Never Trump, and then he's in a meeting with him, licking Trump's boots. It's his pattern, the pattern of a political coward.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
I cannot think of a single Republican currently in elected office who has consistently stood up to the Trump faction of the party. The vast majority of them fell in line and clamed up as soon as he became the 2016 nominee. Others, like Graham, were eventually blackmailed into toeing the line. Still others, like Mittens, have at various times tried to play both sides of the fence.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
He is Mister Cover My As-s. Hardly what I want in a chief executive.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
We have to take the small victories when we can get them. No one is saying Mitt is some freedom fighter but come on. We demand people say something, they do, and then we talk about how it doesn't mean anything and so on. With standards like that nothing anyone does short of shooting Trump will be enough.
Its like when people demand an apology from a celebrity, the celebrity apologizes, and then the same people talk about how they only did it because they had to and it doesn't matter. Well then why demand it in the first place?
Its like when people demand an apology from a celebrity, the celebrity apologizes, and then the same people talk about how they only did it because they had to and it doesn't matter. Well then why demand it in the first place?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
1. Bank the victory
2. Immediately relaunch a new demand
3. Keep the pressure on
I learned that from the Right.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Sasse stands up about 20% of the time and he's the best of them.
Speaking of the counter-majoritarian voice, do any of you post regularly on a decidedly right wing site? I'm thinking of a minority view role such as Hovey takes on here. No point intended; I've just wondered about it from time to time, and this discussion triggered the thought.
And I"m not talking about pure trolling.
And I"m not talking about pure trolling.
Romney could definitely lose a primary. something like 64% of Republicans in Utah disapprove of him. The Mormons were trump skeptics in 2016, but now they're fully on the Trump Train.
WeAreNDHockey
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What would be the point?
Sadly, while both sides are guilty of mal intent from time to time, the right today is nothing like the left, and certainly not in a place like this. When Hovey posts something that is intelligent and on the mark, people here respond with intelligent replies of their own, sometimes in agreement, or sometimes pointing out an alternative aspect. Even when he disagrees with something fundamentally he sometimes offers a well-reasoned reply. It is often the kind of discourse that is sadly lacking in 99% of the rest of the world. On some right wing site, a progressive voice will be shouted down as fake news, America-hating, socialism or some such nonsense. There is no more rational discourse to be had with at least a third of this country and likely closer to 40%. Fvck them. When they want to behave as though facts matter and we all share just one set of them, then maybe discourse will amount to more than "you want the terrorists to win." Hovey actually is the exception that proves the rule the right can mostly go fvck themselves.
Yeah my facebook friends pretty much qualifies. Grew up in Minneapolis in the 80s and feels like 90% of my 50 yo friends are on Trumps side.
MichVandal
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Sorta, not really. I'm part of a car enthusiast board where there's a pretty strong underlying support of dumpy- some who though the 1/6 event was justified as being patriotic, since the courts "through out the evidence."
But there is almost no real political talk there as the owners of the site don't let it happen. It went on for a while, but the discussions got to heated, and they stopped.
One interesting trend on this board is that it has slid very left- I remember having some "discussions" with right wing people who just denied reality. They lived in a world where it was ok to not only give tax breaks to huge corporations, it was ok to give them money to do their work. BUT it was the worst thing in the world to give the same money to the poor. And we know the hatred that went with the ACA.
It's not as if this is a board that shuts discussions down (well, there is the ban hammer)- so it's interesting that the trend went left. Especially during the dumpy period. And I know 100% there are a TON of dumpy worshipers in the hockey thread- they just refused to engage and try to justify their position. Some "moral" ones just gave up. Seems like a big one that made them shut down was the whole caging of kids.
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