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POTUS 45.65: I'm Just Here For The Lincoln Project Ads

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We are about to see an authoritarian strongman steal an election, with the help of one of the two major political parties in this country, and the judges they have spent 3+ years packing the courts with (the REAL court packing by the way) are going to put the judicial stamp of approval on it. We ARE a failed state. It's all over but the reporting.

No more pulling punches, if you voted for this nightmare you are a traitor. If you were too stupid to understand what you were doing, you are an unwitting traitor, but the fact is most who claim stupidity really are practicing willful blindness.

America is on life support and sometime in the next few weeks, they are going to pull the plug. If we want to resurrect a nation worth living in, it's going to take a lot more than voting. We're about to have 75 million people vote for one candidate and the guy who might get 63 million votes will be declared the winner. When voting no longer helps what's next?
 

America jumped in 1980. Tuesday is when democracy finally pulls out of the fall, or America smashes like an overripe melon.

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I got to admit while I dont subscribe to it there is definitely something different to her appearance. Plus she is being way too affectionate with Trump...whose hand she wont even hold.
 
I’ve heard fillers can really change a face shape amd you know plastic injections are the least toxic thing she’s allowed on her face so I’m sure she gets them

im more convinced it’s a double because she doesn’t appear to be revolted
 
Why do you think this only impacts liberal voters? Grow up.

What exactly is "this" in your question? Rules? Only liberal voters are impacted by rules?

I'm not sure why people got so confused regarding my stance on voting and voting rules. I think a lot of if is just knee jerk relating to positions I've taken on other things, and dislike of those positions, so therefore if I say something, it must be bad.

I'll post it again because obviously some posters weren't paying attention in class.

With respect to voting, I believe and expect the following:

Each state legislature should set the rules for that state to follow for voting.
Those rules should be published and made loud and clear so everyone knows what they are.
Those rules should then be followed.

That's it.

Now, with respect to what those rules should be, I don't really care so long as the rules require that everyone cast their ballot on or before election day. I don't think we should be casting ballots after election day.

I don't care if you are a state like Minnesota which says you need to get them all to the voting offices by election day, or if you are like other states that say that so long as it's postmarked by election day, it's fine. I'm all in favor of same day registration. I'm cool with keeping the polling places open all 24 hours of election day. I really don't care what rules your state wants to adopt, so long as they then follow those rules. Personally, if I were someone working in the voting offices I'd prefer the Minnesota rule so that you're not sitting around waiting for ballots to arrive a week after the election. But if your state wants to wait, I'm cool with that.
 
What exactly is "this" in your question? Rules? Only liberal voters are impacted by rules?

I'm not sure why people got so confused regarding my stance on voting and voting rules. I think a lot of if is just knee jerk relating to positions I've taken on other things, and dislike of those positions, so therefore if I say something, it must be bad.

I'll post it again because obviously some posters weren't paying attention in class.

With respect to voting, I believe and expect the following:

Each state legislature should set the rules for that state to follow for voting.
Those rules should be published and made loud and clear so everyone knows what they are.
Those rules should then be followed.

That's it.

Now, with respect to what those rules should be, I don't really care so long as the rules require that everyone cast their ballot on or before election day. I don't think we should be casting ballots after election day.

I don't care if you are a state like Minnesota which says you need to get them all to the voting offices by election day, or if you are like other states that say that so long as it's postmarked by election day, it's fine. I'm all in favor of same day registration. I'm cool with keeping the polling places open all 24 hours of election day. I really don't care what rules your state wants to adopt, so long as they then follow those rules. Personally, if I were someone working in the voting offices I'd prefer the Minnesota rule so that you're not sitting around waiting for ballots to arrive a week after the election. But if your state wants to wait, I'm cool with that.

So then what is your take on what is going on it Texas? The State Leg is the only branch that has issue with the Harris County votes and the GOP is trying to get them thrown out as we speak. Which side the argument wins for you the "State Leg has the right to make the rules" or "dont change the rules later" because in this case you can't use both.
 
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So then what is your take on what is going on it Texas? The State Leg is the only branch that has issue with the Harris County votes and the GOP is trying to get them thrown out as we speak. Which side the argument wins for you the "State Leg has the right to make the rules" or "dont change the rules later" because in this case you can't use both.

I honestly haven't followed the Texas dispute, but I'll see if I can learn about it and give you my take.
 
One more day, people...

... until the month of insanity starts.

I hope nobody in this country actually thinks things will be settled before December 1, because we need their energy.

Then in December we will start the month of cynical law suits, where the Nazis try their best to steal it.
 
So then what is your take on what is going on it Texas? The State Leg is the only branch that has issue with the Harris County votes and the GOP is trying to get them thrown out as we speak. Which side the argument wins for you the "State Leg has the right to make the rules" or "dont change the rules later" because in this case you can't use both.

So, the Texas dispute, if I understand it correctly, is actually a really interesting one. If someone has some corrections to my facts, let me know as that could change my opinion, but I think I understand the dispute.

By the way, the Texas dispute also illuminates what I was talking about earlier, which is that we run into problems when we have Clerks and other government officials who just decide, perhaps with good intent, to make up new rules.

Here is what I understand has happened in Harris County.

Texas election law says that you must cast a ballot at a "voting station" in a "polling place." However, you can request a "curbside ballot" if you suffer from a disability that would limit your ability to access the polling station without assistance, or if doing so exposes the voter to a likelihood of injury.

The Harris County elections clerk, probably due to Covid, decided on his own to erect a series of drive thru "tents" where people can drive up and presumably fill out or drop off their ballot. Many, many people have already done so.

Some Republicans in Texas have challenged the votes cast in these tents as votes not cast in compliance with Texas election law. Basically, the argument centers around whether these tents, with the personal cars in them, are a "polling place" or "voting station" under Texas law, and that further, if they are, then the County is not complying with other rules that govern voting stations, such as a rule that persons be in there alone (except for a minor child or interpreter.)

Is that what you understand the factual dispute and arguments to be?

It sounds like the Texas Supreme Court rejected these arguments and will allow the votes to be counted, although apparently there is a federal court case where the same arguments will be heard this week.

So again, this is a "problem" that is created by a bureaucrat deciding, on his or her own, how things should be done when they really didn't have the authority to do so.

But that said, I would probably rule (if I were in charge) that the votes should count, for these reasons:

1. I would guess that the terms "voting station" and "polling place" are defined broadly enough, or could be interpreted broadly enough, to allow voting in these tents, so long as the county is regulating or keeping watch over these tents in the same way as they might inside a high school gym.

2. Since the law allows a request for a "curbside" ballot if there is a "likelihood of injury" I assume that a judge could conclude that participating in the drive thru process constitutes a "request" and that possible covid infections in large crowds meets the "likelihood of injury" requirement, although I confess I have no idea what Texas law requires for purposes of either a "request" or proving "likelihood of injury." But my guess is its a pretty low standard, and in the past anyone who has asked for a curbside ballot has probably been given one.

3. I don't think the arguments that the personal cars, in the tents, are not properly treated as voting stations goes anywhere because I doubt that when people request a curbside ballot they are denied if someone else happens to be in the car.

But, I admit it'll be interesting to see which way the final court decisions go on this issue.
 
One more day, people...

... until the month of insanity starts.

I hope nobody in this country actually thinks things will be settled before December 1, because we need their energy.

Then in December we will start the month of cynical law suits, where the Nazis try their best to steal it.

I am hoping that something like Florida, or Ohio, or Georgia falls to Biden. Then you can pretty much stick a fork in fuckwad.
 
December 14th is D-Day...that is the day the EC has to vote.

I’m not an EC expert by any means but we could have shenanigans where states Biden won send their own R electors to vote for dump in the electoral vote, right? I feel like I read that as a fear about Florida in particular
 
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