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POTUS 45.65: I'm Just Here For The Lincoln Project Ads

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So they need to hit on 00 again on the roulette table...cool.

2020 voters didn't stay home in 2022 and if that is historically what happens. (ask Nate Silver...oh wait he is probably ranting about COVID) But now we are so afraid it will happen in 2024 we need to keep a guy off the ballot...like that will somehow stop a coup.

Look, if Trump gets convicted keep him off the ballot. As of yet he has not been. Trying to stretch the laws to show he doesn't qualify makes us look as conspiratorial as they pretend we are. And make no mistake this is a friggin stretch and it is not something I want courts deciding.
Um....don't the courts also decide if Trump gets convicted?

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

USC 2383 was (so far as I can tell) passed in 1948, derived from something that passed in 1909, a good 40 years after the 14th amendment. The amendment does not say, "people who have been convicted of the crime of insurrection may not hold office." It says, "engaged in." There may not have even been a specific crime called "insurrection" in 1868. And clearly, many of the thousands of people who would have been disqualified under the 14th in say, the 1872 presidential election, were never convicted of a crime against the United States. If you held a federal or state office prior to 1865 and then gave aid or comfort to the Confederacy in any way, shape or form, the 14th was intended to keep you from re-joining federal or state government, conviction or no.

I think it's perfectly valid for a court to declare, as a point of fact, that former office holder (and oath-giver) X did give aid or comfort to enemies of the United States and is therefore ineligible to hold office again.
 
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves and start making up that the economy is taking a dump.

My whole point is that even with the economy doing great Biden is at 54% disapproval.

We know the GOP will simply lie about the economy, the way they simply lie about everything. And we know their derps will all blindly follow them, because homeschool plus confirmation bias.

But what if the economy actually does hit a snarl? There are plenty of people who actually do vote on the immediacy of their personal situation, and as more of them lose their job and/or get strung out by predatory lending, they will blame Biden. That could tilt the election. A third of the electorate does not care about Naziism either way, they just want a chicken in the pot.
 
My whole point is that even with the economy doing great Biden is at 54% disapproval.

We know the GOP will simply lie about the economy, the way they simply lie about everything. And we know their derps will all blindly follow them, because homeschool plus confirmation bias.

But what if the economy actually does hit a snarl? There are plenty of people who actually do vote on the immediacy of their personal situation, and as more of them lose their job and/or get strung out by predatory lending, they will blame Biden. That could tilt the election. A third of the electorate does not care about Naziism either way, they just want a chicken in the pot.

The Dems need to spend as much time hyping the real economy as they do on correctly painting the right as fascist pigs.
 
The Dems need to spend as much time hyping the real economy as they do on correctly painting the right as fascist pigs.

Yes, and stay focused on the fact that what the hard core maggats think and say should not distract us from focusing on those on and around the thin purple line, motivating some to vote and some to stay home.
 
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Um....don't the courts also decide if Trump gets convicted?

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

USC 2383 was (so far as I can tell) passed in 1948, derived from something that passed in 1909, a good 40 years after the 14th amendment. The amendment does not say, "people who have been convicted of the crime of insurrection may not hold office." It says, "engaged in." There may not have even been a specific crime called "insurrection" in 1868. And clearly, many of the thousands of people who would have been disqualified under the 14th in say, the 1872 presidential election, were never convicted of a crime against the United States. If you held a federal or state office prior to 1865 and then gave aid or comfort to the Confederacy in any way, shape or form, the 14th was intended to keep you from re-joining federal or state government, conviction or no.

I think it's perfectly valid for a court to declare, as a point of fact, that former office holder (and oath-giver) X did give aid or comfort to enemies of the United States and is therefore ineligible to hold office again.

If he has been convicted sure. He hasn't so you are making an end run around it which is bs.
 
If he has been convicted sure. He hasn't so you are making an end run around it which is bs.

No. An end run would be directly petitioning a supervisor of elections to leave the candidate off the ballot, despite the candidate’s otherwise meeting all the requirements to be included.

Going to a court for a legally binding ruling is literally what the courts are for. That’s an off-tackle run right up the middle.
 
The American press will never call him out on it, or will find some obscure far-lefty making similar insectoid comparisons to scream "BOTH SIDES1!11!!!1!!111!!"
 
Forgot to add: calling people vermin is literally repeating hitler.

There will not be a point where the media finds their conscience
For the others who could use a link.

Other threads put out by Meidas Touch have video clips of his vile comments.

https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Comments made by Trump in the past few weeks echo Hitler nearly verbatim.

Hitler: I will get rid of the “communist” “vermin”

Trump: I will get rid of the “communist” “vermin”

Hitler: I will take care of the “enemy within”

Trump: I will take care of the “threat from within”

Hitler: Jews and migrants are poisoning Aryan blood

Trump: Migrants are “poisoning the blood of our country”

Hitler: “One People, One Realm, One Leader”

Trump: “One People, One Family, One Glorious Nation”
 
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