Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Of course trump is saying he doesn’t believe Germany that the Russian guy was poisoned. He needs to see evidence, he says.
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POTUS 45.65: I'm Just Here For The Lincoln Project Ads
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Biden was knocking on doors with some volunteers last week and one lady was like, “Hey it’s Joe Biden! I gotta be honest I’m a Trump supporter but if you ran for president I’d vote for you!” This in August 2020.
rufus
rock and roller
It's not brain damage. It's just Trump's inherent programming that he just cannot wrap his tiny little mind around the concept of someone doing something selflessly, that no one does anything unless there is some benefit to themselves in doing so.
Deutsche Gopher Fan
Registered User
Imagine the brain damage it takes to vote for him
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
That's what I was thinking.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
This is a good point. Sociopathy is people with a certain brain working exactly correctly. It's not that the part of the brain that allows empathy is damaged. It isn't there. They are completely "healthy."
Now, the people who put them into a position of responsibility and power? Those people's brains are not working correctly, if at all.
Deutsche Gopher Fan
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FadeToBlack&Gold
Kettle Medallion
You are absolutely correct about anyone still committed to voting for El Hefty. Where there is still a bit of opportunity is in convincing people who aren't all that enthusiastic about Biden to vote for him, instead of leaving the POTUS section blank like my mom recently said she is contemplating. *sigh*
FadeToBlack&Gold
Kettle Medallion
He hates Merkel and is incapable of criticizing Russia and Putin on any matter, so this is no surprise.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
As ridiculous as that is it beats a vote for Dump.
Can you talk to your Mom at all about stuff like this?
unofan
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It depends. A blank vote/3rd party vote is the equivalent of a half vote for the person whom they wouldn't have voted for if they had a gun to their head. A blank vote is better than a vote for Trump if that's what the other choice would've been.
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
unofan
Well-known member
Do you understand the Games Back column in baseball standings?
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Sure. The problem with attempting to correlate the two is that Baseball standings involve losses. There is no equivalent of a loss in voting
ETA:
A third party vote and not voting at all affects the D & R candidate equally. Here is the simple math:
Prior to my vote, the tally stands as follows:
D votes equals x
R votes equal y
T votes equals z
Placing a vote for party T now makes the values
D votes = x+0 (the Δ in x = 0)
R votes = y+0 (the Δ in y = 0)
T votes = z+1 (the Δ in z = +1)
Both D & R have an equal Δ therefore are affected similarly.
Prior to my non-vote, the tally stands as follows:
D votes equals x
R votes equal y
T votes equals z
By not placing a vote for any party the values are as follows
D votes = x+0 (the Δ in x = 0)
R votes = y+0 (the Δ in y = 0)
T votes = z+0 (the Δ in z = 0)
T & D & R have an equal Δ and therefore are affected similarly
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unofan
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There's no loss column, but there are W's to be had outside of head to head matchups. If Team Y beats Team Z, Team Y gains a half game on Team X.
To steal from your analogy,
T's preferences are Z>X>Y. Were a gun held to his head, he would vote for X over Y.
Y leads by one vote. If T votes for Z (or abstains), Y wins. If T votes for X, it's a tie. By voting for Z (or abstaining), he hurts X and helps Y. Not as much as voting for Y would've done, but enough to change the election.
Put another way:
An Obama-Trump voter essentially acts as a -1 to the Dems and a +1 to the GOP.
An Obama-Stein voter, or an Obama-no vote, is still a -1 to the Dems but a +0 to the GOP, having half the effect of the Obama-Trump voter.
Put a 3rd way:
There will be around 130,000,000 votes cast this fall for President. Every vote Biden or Trump gets is not only a +1 in their column, but a vote the other guy cannot get. A 3rd party voter is still a vote the other guy cannot get, but is also one that their preferred candidate of the 2 major parties does not get. By not giving his preferred major party candidate that vote, he's helping out the other side half as much as someone who votes for the other side.
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