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POTUS 45.60: He's Such A Delicate Boy and a Hysterical Man

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SJHovey said:
You and Scoob don't think there is money to be made in this country as a whistleblower? I've got news for you.
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There's money to be made as a rape victim too. So, what the hell is your point?
 
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SJHovey said:
You and Scoob don't think there is money to be made in this country as a whistleblower? I've got news for you.
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Question: Are you still a Trump Humper or are you an "independent" now? Just trying to keep it all straight! :D
 
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SJHovey said:
You and Scoob don't think there is money to be made in this country as a whistleblower? I've got news for you.
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I'm saying that's not a reason for it to be judged viable or not.
 
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Slap Shot said:
I'm saying that's not a reason for it to be judged viable or not.
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I'm not judging the viability of anything, I don't think. Scooby expressed fear (I know, weird) that Trump is somehow going to be able to kill off whistleblowers.

I think that's silly, in light of the fact that he doesn't have the ability to wave a wand and make statutes disappear. But even if the statutes didn't exist, there is still money to be made as a whistleblower. Not that money has to be the only or primary reason for coming forward, but it's there nonetheless.
 
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Rover said:
Question: Are you still a Trump Humper or are you an "independent" now? Just trying to keep it all straight! :D
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I don't claim to be a "Trump Humper", an "independent" or anything else. I'm just me.

As for who I voted for in 2016, I posted it on election day, but as I recall you weren't around.
 
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I think I'll go blow the whistle on someone this afternoon and then wait for my Soros check.
 
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SJHovey said:
I'm not judging the viability of anything, I don't think. Scooby expressed fear (I know, weird) that Trump is somehow going to be able to kill off whistleblowers.

I think that's silly, in light of the fact that he doesn't have the ability to wave a wand and make statutes disappear. But even if the statutes didn't exist, there is still money to be made as a whistleblower. Not that money has to be the only or primary reason for coming forward, but it's there nonetheless.
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whisleblowers are now immediately dismissed as partisan attacks by half of the electorate, lumped in with "fake news" (which now means any news that is bad for Trump)
 
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BassAle said:
whisleblowers are now immediately dismissed as partisan attacks by half of the electorate, lumped in with "fake news" (which now means any news that is bad for Trump)
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I really thought that wasn't that difficult to discern from what I posted. I was wrong.
 
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SJHovey said:
I don't claim to be a "Trump Humper", an "independent" or anything else. I'm just me.

As for who I voted for in 2016, I posted it on election day, but as I recall you weren't around.
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Ah, but a quick look at the record will show that I DID post that evening/early morning. I'll go dig it up if you'd care to put some money on it....

EDIT - burd, you can put some money up too (if you have any). ;)
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All they need is a few hanging chads for Brooks Brothers Riot II. <a href="https://t.co/bjzZwd4rEz">https://t.co/bjzZwd4rEz</a></p>— Ed Bott (@edbott) <a href="https://twitter.com/edbott/status/1187011287768715264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All they need is a few hanging chads for Brooks Brothers Riot II. <a href="https://t.co/bjzZwd4rEz">https://t.co/bjzZwd4rEz</a></p>— Ed Bott (@edbott) <a href="https://twitter.com/edbott/status/1187011287768715264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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The Republicans get to ask questions of all witnesses. Transparency? So the witnesses can "tune" their lies to what the other witnesses say?
 
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Might be the same thing but they're losing it: from CNN


House Republicans stormed the hearing room where Pentagon official was testifying


As Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Laura Cooper was sitting down to testify, the roughly couple dozen Republicans stormed through the three different doors, a source in the room said.

Rep. Bradley Byrne yelled in committee Chair Adam Schiff's face, but Schiff didn't engage. Other Democrats, including Val Demings, screamed back at both Byrne and Rep. Louie Gohmert, who were yelling about the process.


"It was closest thing I've seen around here to mass civil unrest as a member of Congress," according to a source in the room.

Cooper left the room while the Republicans refused to leave.

The source says the Capitol Police and sergeant at arms have been consulted as members refuse to leave the room.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I really thought that wasn't that difficult to discern from what I posted. I was wrong.
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I got it, anyway.

It all comes down to which side you instinctively side with, with no good information either way. When a woman makes a rape accusation I am going to provisionally believe her. I don't want the legal system to do that because assumption of innocence is important in the context of state coercion. But I am far, far more focused initially on all the impediments to a woman coming forward (shaming, loss of privacy, danger of reprisal, the expense, monotony, and idiocy of the police and the court system) than on the infinitesimal though non-zero possibility she is lying out of malice or blackmail.

I feel the same way about whistleblowers.

The key word is provisionally. As info collects I moderate my initial opinion. But my initial opinion goes towards protecting the weak and I have a hard time understanding people whose initial focus is on attacking the weak and protecting the strong. They seem... gross.
 
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Rover said:
Might be the same thing but they're losing it: from CNN


House Republicans stormed the hearing room where Pentagon official was testifying


As Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Laura Cooper was sitting down to testify, the roughly couple dozen Republicans stormed through the three different doors, a source in the room said.

Rep. Bradley Byrne yelled in committee Chair Adam Schiff's face, but Schiff didn't engage. Other Democrats, including Val Demings, screamed back at both Byrne and Rep. Louie Gohmert, who were yelling about the process.


"It was closest thing I've seen around here to mass civil unrest as a member of Congress," according to a source in the room.

Cooper left the room while the Republicans refused to leave.

The source says the Capitol Police and sergeant at arms have been consulted as members refuse to leave the room.
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They should just start wearing armbands. This is Schutzstaffel 101.

Start citing them for contempt and disruption and threatening them with arrest. Democratic institutions have to protect themselves against this kind of clowning. It can become deadly quickly and the f-cks on the right are dumb enough and vicious enough to become a lethal threat.
 
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burd said:
And you do the same: "To the extend WaPo is classified as a 24-hour news outlet."
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rufus and alfa ripped Rube based on what he said in part because of what you posted. You made it sound like that is what he is saying so he clarified.
 
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Kepler said:
I got it, anyway.

It all comes down to which side you instinctively side with, with no good information either way. When a woman makes a rape accusation I am going to provisionally believe her. I don't want the legal system to do that because assumption of innocence is important in the context of state coercion. But I am far, far more focused initially on all the impediments to a woman coming forward (shaming, loss of privacy, danger of reprisal, the monotony and idiocy of the justice justice) than on the infinitesimal though non-zero possibility she is lying out of malice or blackmail.

I feel the same way about whistleblowers.

The key word is provisionally. As info collects I moderate my initial opinion. But my initial opinion goes towards protecting the weak and I have a hard time understanding people whose initial focus is on attacking the weak and protecting the strong.
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But hasn't every whistleblower ever known they were going to be attacked? Isn't that why they prefer to do so anonymously? How is what we are seeing today any different?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will the House Republican leadership discipline these members for security violations, especially those who used cell phones in a SCIF? <a href="https://t.co/vGPaeWPNxZ">https://t.co/vGPaeWPNxZ</a></p>— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1187036961355243522?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The Republicans get to ask questions of all witnesses. Transparency? So the witnesses can "tune" their lies to what the other witnesses say?
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And how is it a secret impeachment hearing...its happening in front of everyone?

Good god if you are a Republican think about what history books are gonna say about you in 30 years. This crap is nuts!
 
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