POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls

[ScoobyDoo]

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LOL. Peak "conservatism."

We all know racism died when Obama was elected. C'mon.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls

Beginning to think pence being called back last week was health related.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">...or a very nervous and skinny version of Pocahontas (1/1024th), as your President, rather than what you have now, so great looking and smart, a true Stable Genius! Sorry to say that even Social Media would be driven out of business along with, and finally, the Fake News Media!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149345683138367491?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Beginning to think pence being called back last week was health related.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">...or a very nervous and skinny version of Pocahontas (1/1024th), as your President, rather than what you have now, so great looking and smart, a true Stable Genius! Sorry to say that even Social Media would be driven out of business along with, and finally, the Fake News Media!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149345683138367491?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5 For a deep dive w/ examples, pics, lists & videos, here’s 8 layers of Trump Frontotemporal Dementia threads going back to last summers G7.<a href="https://t.co/OGDqOKMBnJ">https://t.co/OGDqOKMBnJ</a></p>— Tom Joseph (@TomJChicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomJChicago/status/1147310325022298112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dementia Alert. Note how Trump loses body control as he slurs- Left shoulder involuntarily dips, the hands splay, the torso jerks back & his head sharply tilts to his right to compensate/regain setting. He needs an immediate neurological exam. It's not normal, he's deteriorating <a href="https://t.co/door646MaX">https://t.co/door646MaX</a></p>— Tom Joseph (@TomJChicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomJChicago/status/1134168181893926912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump's dementia balance issue is serious. He normally can use his arms to balance his walk - the umbrella prevented it here. Note his inability to walk straight, legs cross over each other, right leg juts w/ handshake. This accelerates rapidly. At 28 min <a href="https://t.co/QcQW8ihpNt">https://t.co/QcQW8ihpNt</a></p>— Tom Joseph (@TomJChicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomJChicago/status/1062307000485339136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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He's declining fast.

 

[French Rage]

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Beginning to think pence being called back last week was health related.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">...or a very nervous and skinny version of Pocahontas (1/1024th), as your President, rather than what you have now, so great looking and smart, a true Stable Genius! Sorry to say that even Social Media would be driven out of business along with, and finally, the Fake News Media!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149345683138367491?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Aww he fixed it. I liked earlier when it read "1000/24th", which is roughly equivalent to 41.6 Pocahonti.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I completely missed this nugget...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The escalator ride where Trump announced his candidacy was in June 2015. <a href="https://t.co/1w5yu9tWs3">pic.twitter.com/1w5yu9tWs3</a></p>— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1149281327050645504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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ANd jeebus, did he forget Melania's name?

 

[Handyman]

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True. Franken's video where he pretends to grab someone's breast is much worse.

Is this your attempt to falsely equivocate?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Is this your attempt to falsely equivocate?

Just offering my Constitutionally protected opinion. No equivalencies were considered, but, a personal comparison was communicated.

 

[Kepler]

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Aww he fixed it. I liked earlier when it read "1000/24th", which is roughly equivalent to 41.6 Pocahonti.

Are those British Standard or IEEE Pochahonti?

 

[Kepler]

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I completely missed this nugget...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The escalator ride where Trump announced his candidacy was in June 2015. <a href="https://t.co/1w5yu9tWs3">pic.twitter.com/1w5yu9tWs3</a></p>— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1149281327050645504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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ANd jeebus, did he forget Melania's name?

Yeah, that was weird wording. "I, state your name..."

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Maybe he’s unraveling more rapidly due to Epstein. Word is that trump panicked and made Barr not recuse himself

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Maybe he’s unraveling more rapidly due to Epstein. Word is that trump panicked and made Barr not recuse himself

Yeah, I noticed that that had happened. He rightfully needs to recuse himself if any standards at all are to be maintained for recusal. So, now that he's not we can throw that rule away forever as well. A lot of norms and rules have been destroyed during this Presidency.

 

[trixR4kids]

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I kinda wonder if the guy is actually afraid of anything happening at this point. He's committed however many hundreds of crimes and the people who can hold him accountable are sitting on their hands pretending :decorum: is still a thing that voters actually care about in 2019.

 

[French Rage]

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Are those British Standard or IEEE Pochahonti?

It's better than Picohonti, which of course is 1/1000000000000 of a honti.

 

[aparch]

It's better than Picohonti, which of course is 1/1000000000000 of a honti.

I laughed way harder than I should have at this.

 

[Kepler]

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Yeah, I noticed that that had happened. He rightfully needs to recuse himself if any standards at all are to be maintained for recusal. So, now that he's not we can throw that rule away forever as well. A lot of norms and rules have been destroyed during this Presidency.

Maybe this is a blessing in disguise. I have never been a fan of "norms" for the very reason that only moral actors are held to them. Amoral actors are when they are most needed as guardrails... but precisely by being amoral they will blow through them.

A rule without legal compulsion is meaningless. Post Dump we need a whole series of new laws which limit executive behavior and codify the penalties for acting unconstitutionally across the government. This bunch has proven the honor system does not impede the dishonorable, and partisanship is such that voters will not stop bad actors who wear the correct jersey.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Maybe this is a blessing in disguise. I have never been a fan of "norms" for the very reason that only moral actors are held to them. Amoral actors are when they are most needed as guardrails... but precisely by being amoral they will blow through them.

A rule without legal compulsion is meaningless. Post Dump we need a whole series of new laws which limit executive behavior and codify the penalties for acting unconstitutionally across the government. This bunch has proven the honor system does not impede the dishonorable, and partisanship is such that voters will not stop bad actors who wear the correct jersey.

Kep, while I do not disagree there are laws in place for things like this and many other ethical standards.

The problem is always on the enforcement side.

In any lawful society Dump would be in jail a long ****ing time ago.

 

[Kepler]

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Kep, while I do not disagree there are laws in place for things like this and many other ethical standards.

The problem is always on the enforcement side.

In any lawful society Dump would be in jail a long ****ing time ago.

Well, maybe. We do have, kind of, a lawful civil society. If you think not try a holiday in Cambodia, or India, or Russia.

Here's the problem Dump has shown us. In "real life," if the most popular and richest man in town commits a terrible crime and there's proof it is at least possible for him to go to prison. In politics this can't happen if the politician's party has 51% of the power because the party and its members will simply deny reality and there is no mechanism to stop them.

Now maybe the norm of deciding criminal cases on facts will go away someday. Just as jurors still think of themselves as bound by reality, voters used to: a criminal of their party used to lose their support. It took 25 years of Hate Radio and Fox to separate right wing voters from facts -- now they just vote according to what they want to be true and ignore what is true because they are rewarded for that by the brainwashing apparatus set up to feed and exploit them.

The question is how to defeat that without also losing self determination. We need a system where people who live in reality are the electorate while people who have withdrawn into a fantasyland are treated well but not permitted to make decisions that impact the reality people. We essentially now have an entirely new class of "adult children" whose vote is worse than useless, it's pernicious. Or, rather, we've always had them but before they washed out. Now, for the first time, they've aligned politically. It could have happened to the Left; it actually happened to the Right.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Well, maybe. We do have, kind of, a lawful civil society. If you think not try a holiday in Cambodia, or India, or Russia.

Here's the problem Dump has shown us. In "real life," if the most popular and richest man in town commits a terrible crime and there's proof it is at least possible for him to go to prison. In politics this can't happen if the politician's party has 51% of the power because the party and its members will simply deny reality and there is no mechanism to stop them.

Now maybe the norm of deciding criminal cases on facts will go away someday. Just as jurors still think of themselves as bound by reality, voters used to: a criminal of their party used to lose their support. It took 25 years of Hate Radio and Fox to separate right wing voters from facts -- now they just vote according to what they want to be true and ignore what is true because they are rewarded for that by the brainwashing apparatus set up to feed and exploit them.

The question is how to defeat that without also losing self determination. We need a system where people who live in reality are the electorate while people who have withdrawn into a fantasyland are treated well but not permitted to make decisions that impact the reality people. We essentially now have an entirely new class of "adult children" whose vote is worse than useless, it's pernicious. Or, rather, we've always had them but before they washed out. Now, for the first time, they've aligned politically. It could have happened to the Left; it actually happened to the Right.

It all comes down to a lack of imagination by the Founders. They never considered a situation where a criminal enterprise would gain the White House and Congress. It just wasn't a possibility. Yet, here we are and I'm becoming more concerned that we don't have an adequate backstop. You can say 2020, but I don't have a warm fuzzy about the GOP not castrating that final line of defense.

I'm also becoming less optimistic about the GOP being pushed out of power by demographic changes.

 

[Kepler]

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It all comes down to a lack of imagination by the Founders. They never considered a situation where a criminal enterprise would gain the White House and Congress. It just wasn't a possibility. Yet, here we are and I'm becoming more concerned that we don't have an adequate backstop. You can say 2020, but I don't have a warm fuzzy about the GOP not castrating that final line of defense.

They thought we'd never have a persistent "faction" with an absolute majority, because they thought of them as regional or trade-centered. 18th century thinkers did not foresee the rise of ideologies. We need a new "progressive" era of Amendment to protect us from parties.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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This is just bizarre.