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POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
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Generalissimo Francisco Franco has been put on notice...
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
Whew glad that’s cleared up
Breaking news: President Trump said writer E. Jean Carroll was “totally lying” when she accused him of sexually assaulting her, adding that she is “not my type.”
Whew glad that’s cleared up
Breaking news: President Trump said writer E. Jean Carroll was “totally lying” when she accused him of sexually assaulting her, adding that she is “not my type.”
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
So, if she were his type he'd totally rape her?
So, if she were his type he'd totally rape her?
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
Jfc
EXCLUSIVE: President Trump has declared in a new interview that he has the authority to fire the Federal Reserve chair if he wants. Experts disagree.
Jfc
EXCLUSIVE: President Trump has declared in a new interview that he has the authority to fire the Federal Reserve chair if he wants. Experts disagree.
rufus
rock and roller
So he'd rape his daughter. Ivanka, not the one who doesn't exist.
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
No obstruction...
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/ag...ations-10-days-after-he-submitted-his-report/
No obstruction...
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/ag...ations-10-days-after-he-submitted-his-report/
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
Trump just squashed fake news. Or something. Yeah, that's the ticket. /JonLovitz
Trump just squashed fake news. Or something. Yeah, that's the ticket. /JonLovitz
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
Of course he does. Fire away.
Of course he does. Fire away.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
Holy ****ing ****. If we don't fix this we're doomed as a nation.
Holy ****ing ****. If we don't fix this we're doomed as a nation.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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You sound hysterical, as our resident conservative would say
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
Checks and balances needs an overhaul. There is effectively no way to stop a kook (or criminal, or both) party that holds the White House and a superiority-defeating strength in Congress.
The Founders didn't forsee how strong parties would become. They are force multipliers. The Federalist Papers argued that the structure of the government would protect us against a runaway faction because in a large and diverse country no one faction could ever achieve sufficient numbers to compromise the democratic integrity of the system. They based that on the assumption that factions would be scoped to limited identities -- geography, industry, trade -- and also assumptions about the intelligence and education of the electorate which are long since obsolete. This has been coming for a long time -- ever since parties became truly national. It's amazing we were lucky as long as we were.
Now, assuming nobody wants to go back to formal limits on the franchise by intelligence and education (any takers?... I thought not) we have to design additional structures to ensure government remains democratic. It's a classic "who watches the watchmen?" problem. We need to adapt our current structure to deal with the reality of a political party that puts itself ahead of the nation and an electorate that deliberately fosters and rewards that. We need to extend Madison's awareness that all men must be treated as if they are evil as a protection to an awareness that all political parties must be treated as if they are willing to engage in systemic treason.
If there was a way to break up parties that would help. If we had say an 11 major party system and you always needed 6 to get something through that would limit the more insane and lethal acts of a runaway kook/criminal party. But to have multiparty here we'd have to completely change our form of government to a Parliamentary system, which has its own problems.
Checks and balances needs an overhaul. There is effectively no way to stop a kook (or criminal, or both) party that holds the White House and a superiority-defeating strength in Congress.
The Founders didn't forsee how strong parties would become. They are force multipliers. The Federalist Papers argued that the structure of the government would protect us against a runaway faction because in a large and diverse country no one faction could ever achieve sufficient numbers to compromise the democratic integrity of the system. They based that on the assumption that factions would be scoped to limited identities -- geography, industry, trade -- and also assumptions about the intelligence and education of the electorate which are long since obsolete. This has been coming for a long time -- ever since parties became truly national. It's amazing we were lucky as long as we were.
Now, assuming nobody wants to go back to formal limits on the franchise by intelligence and education (any takers?... I thought not) we have to design additional structures to ensure government remains democratic. It's a classic "who watches the watchmen?" problem. We need to adapt our current structure to deal with the reality of a political party that puts itself ahead of the nation and an electorate that deliberately fosters and rewards that. We need to extend Madison's awareness that all men must be treated as if they are evil as a protection to an awareness that all political parties must be treated as if they are willing to engage in systemic treason.
If there was a way to break up parties that would help. If we had say an 11 major party system and you always needed 6 to get something through that would limit the more insane and lethal acts of a runaway kook/criminal party. But to have multiparty here we'd have to completely change our form of government to a Parliamentary system, which has its own problems.
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FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
He's not wrong...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Iran's President Rouhani mocks President Trump, says the White House is "afflicted by mental retardation."</p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/1143426734651564033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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He's not wrong...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Iran's President Rouhani mocks President Trump, says the White House is "afflicted by mental retardation."</p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/1143426734651564033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
Yeah but the Toby Keith crowd is gonna take dem as figtin werds!!1
Yeah but the Toby Keith crowd is gonna take dem as figtin werds!!1
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
They get offended easy. I'd be careful.
They get offended easy. I'd be careful.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
He already sent a p-ssy little tweet back.
Just a junior high school bully with a toddler's self-control. No wonder righties love him. He is them.
He already sent a p-ssy little tweet back.
Just a junior high school bully with a toddler's self-control. No wonder righties love him. He is them.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
Yes, who knew that he is the personification of the Republican Party. Bill Krystol and George Will have been wrong all these years.
Yes, who knew that he is the personification of the Republican Party. Bill Krystol and George Will have been wrong all these years.
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
Lemme guess:
"AM NOT!"
What do I win?
Lemme guess:
"AM NOT!"
What do I win?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls
The transition is complete:
Buckley (intelligent and detached)
Reagan (affable and naive)
Gingrich (opportunistic and fraudulent)
Dump (unprincipled, obtuse, and actively criminal)
The transition is complete:
Buckley (intelligent and detached)
Reagan (affable and naive)
Gingrich (opportunistic and fraudulent)
Dump (unprincipled, obtuse, and actively criminal)
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