trixR4kids
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
How exactly did "tHe rEguLatIoNs" cause the problem in Seattle Drew?
How exactly did "tHe rEguLatIoNs" cause the problem in Seattle Drew?
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POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
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I’m dying to hear the answer as someone who has lived there
ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
I'm dying to know and I've never lived anywhere else but the Mpls. area.
I'm dying to know and I've never lived anywhere else but the Mpls. area.
Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
A somewhat interesting topic. I can't speak for the situation in Seattle but I believe its very similar to Boston. The problem isn't govt regulations, heartless corporations, or the homeless. The problem, which is one of the few things that crosses ideological lines, is NIMBY's.
NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard. What Boston, and I suspect Seattle needs, is more housing. Lots and lots and lots more housing. If you look through the past century as the population boomed people built more houses to keep up. In wealthy cities that's stopped happening.
People follow the good paying jobs. That means the workers in this country are gravitating towards the same handful of cities (Seattle, SF, Austin, DC, NY, Boston, etc etc). In Boston's case, the take home pay for a professional couple more than covers the 800K-1M mortgage that's now required to live in, or within 20 miles of, the city.
Short of a massive building program, which will never get through the parochial concerns of the locals, the only solution for "the poors" is a robust transportation network so that they can cash out and move to a cheaper place while maintaining access to the good paying jobs of the city. Sorry to disappoint, but this issue doesn't conform itself to the usual ideological divides.
A somewhat interesting topic. I can't speak for the situation in Seattle but I believe its very similar to Boston. The problem isn't govt regulations, heartless corporations, or the homeless. The problem, which is one of the few things that crosses ideological lines, is NIMBY's.
NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard. What Boston, and I suspect Seattle needs, is more housing. Lots and lots and lots more housing. If you look through the past century as the population boomed people built more houses to keep up. In wealthy cities that's stopped happening.
People follow the good paying jobs. That means the workers in this country are gravitating towards the same handful of cities (Seattle, SF, Austin, DC, NY, Boston, etc etc). In Boston's case, the take home pay for a professional couple more than covers the 800K-1M mortgage that's now required to live in, or within 20 miles of, the city.
Short of a massive building program, which will never get through the parochial concerns of the locals, the only solution for "the poors" is a robust transportation network so that they can cash out and move to a cheaper place while maintaining access to the good paying jobs of the city. Sorry to disappoint, but this issue doesn't conform itself to the usual ideological divides.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WaPo, December 9, 2016: "According to several officials, McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the [Obama] White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics." <a href="https://t.co/b5dOORMz5P">https://t.co/b5dOORMz5P</a></p>— Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1110731452101083136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Fck you, Mitch.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WaPo, December 9, 2016: "According to several officials, McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the [Obama] White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics." <a href="https://t.co/b5dOORMz5P">https://t.co/b5dOORMz5P</a></p>— Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1110731452101083136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Fck you, Mitch.
Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
To add to that very good suggestion- the new housing does need to incorporate some affordable housing as well. My home town of Ann Arbor requires some portion of affordable housing is included in all new high concentration housing (aka apartments). It seems to be working out ok, but it's far from perfect.
Still, what bothers me is that R's just blame D's/socialism for the issue and other than hauling off the homeless to some unknown place, offer no real solutions.
A somewhat interesting topic. I can't speak for the situation in Seattle but I believe its very similar to Boston. The problem isn't govt regulations, heartless corporations, or the homeless. The problem, which is one of the few things that crosses ideological lines, is NIMBY's.
NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard. What Boston, and I suspect Seattle needs, is more housing. Lots and lots and lots more housing. If you look through the past century as the population boomed people built more houses to keep up. In wealthy cities that's stopped happening.
People follow the good paying jobs. That means the workers in this country are gravitating towards the same handful of cities (Seattle, SF, Austin, DC, NY, Boston, etc etc). In Boston's case, the take home pay for a professional couple more than covers the 800K-1M mortgage that's now required to live in, or within 20 miles of, the city.
Short of a massive building program, which will never get through the parochial concerns of the locals, the only solution for "the poors" is a robust transportation network so that they can cash out and move to a cheaper place while maintaining access to the good paying jobs of the city. Sorry to disappoint, but this issue doesn't conform itself to the usual ideological divides.
To add to that very good suggestion- the new housing does need to incorporate some affordable housing as well. My home town of Ann Arbor requires some portion of affordable housing is included in all new high concentration housing (aka apartments). It seems to be working out ok, but it's far from perfect.
Still, what bothers me is that R's just blame D's/socialism for the issue and other than hauling off the homeless to some unknown place, offer no real solutions.
A somewhat interesting topic. I can't speak for the situation in Seattle but I believe its very similar to Boston. The problem isn't govt regulations, heartless corporations, or the homeless. The problem, which is one of the few things that crosses ideological lines, is NIMBY's.
NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard. What Boston, and I suspect Seattle needs, is more housing. Lots and lots and lots more housing. If you look through the past century as the population boomed people built more houses to keep up. In wealthy cities that's stopped happening.
People follow the good paying jobs. That means the workers in this country are gravitating towards the same handful of cities (Seattle, SF, Austin, DC, NY, Boston, etc etc). In Boston's case, the take home pay for a professional couple more than covers the 800K-1M mortgage that's now required to live in, or within 20 miles of, the city.
Short of a massive building program, which will never get through the parochial concerns of the locals, the only solution for "the poors" is a robust transportation network so that they can cash out and move to a cheaper place while maintaining access to the good paying jobs of the city. Sorry to disappoint, but this issue doesn't conform itself to the usual ideological divides.
Exactly as I would have described. It should be noted the nimbys use zoning laws and regulations to their benefit.
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
I do believe Seattle is allowing for some upzoning in certain areas. Not every neighborhood, like Minneapolis is apparently doing.
I NIMBY’d myself out of Minneapolis partially due to this plan. Our lots were tiny, street full of parked cars despite everyone having a garage, terrible plowing. The MPLS plan had no transportation solutions tied in, so I think it’s lacking and had no desire to see a triplex go up six feet from my living room window. And the real kicker is developers are just gonna make money off it unless the city forces them to be affordable.
I do believe Seattle is allowing for some upzoning in certain areas. Not every neighborhood, like Minneapolis is apparently doing.
I NIMBY’d myself out of Minneapolis partially due to this plan. Our lots were tiny, street full of parked cars despite everyone having a garage, terrible plowing. The MPLS plan had no transportation solutions tied in, so I think it’s lacking and had no desire to see a triplex go up six feet from my living room window. And the real kicker is developers are just gonna make money off it unless the city forces them to be affordable.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
Yep, and no one in this country ever seems to want to pay for robust public transit networks. So...
Short of a massive building program, which will never get through the parochial concerns of the locals, the only solution for "the poors" is a robust transportation network so that they can cash out and move to a cheaper place while maintaining access to the good paying jobs of the city. Sorry to disappoint, but this issue doesn't conform itself to the usual ideological divides.
Yep, and no one in this country ever seems to want to pay for robust public transit networks. So...
dxmnkd316
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
I would never live in a big city. Ever.
I had just about all I could stand going to my GF’s apartment. The parking restrictions, the ****ing TERRIBLE road conditions, the horrible plowing (I’ve driven backroads through the UP with less wear on the suspension), the garbage everywhere. It’s a horrible way to live and I want no part of it.
I would never live in a big city. Ever.
I had just about all I could stand going to my GF’s apartment. The parking restrictions, the ****ing TERRIBLE road conditions, the horrible plowing (I’ve driven backroads through the UP with less wear on the suspension), the garbage everywhere. It’s a horrible way to live and I want no part of it.
rufus
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The sad part is, all the dim bulbs out there like Drew only hear what Mitch is saying now, and blame Democrats, and have absolutely no clue about the role Mitch played back then in making sure Obamas hands were tied as to just how much he could do re: Russian election influence.
Your low information voter at work.
Kepler
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
Cities are amazing if you're rich and horrible if you're poor.
I have no problem admitting I am a well-scrubbed suburbanite, particular now in the age of the internet and niche marketing that has removed the blandness of the burbs.
I lived in a farming community for 13 years and in a rural college town for another 6. Guh. They don't call it the "idiocy of the countryside" for nothing. To paraphrase Shakespeare, the city is not for me and the country, well, I am not for it.
Quality of life is highest at the mean of population density.
Cities are amazing if you're rich and horrible if you're poor.
I have no problem admitting I am a well-scrubbed suburbanite, particular now in the age of the internet and niche marketing that has removed the blandness of the burbs.
I lived in a farming community for 13 years and in a rural college town for another 6. Guh. They don't call it the "idiocy of the countryside" for nothing. To paraphrase Shakespeare, the city is not for me and the country, well, I am not for it.
Quality of life is highest at the mean of population density.
rufus
rock and roller
That may be the coming issue in my town. No housing available(rich out of town homeowners preferring to charge a months rent for a weekend stay on Air bnb), and now a group is trying to get the zoning laws changed to allow for greater build density on lots.
Will totally destroy whatever small town character the place has left.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
How in the **** does he continually get away with this ****ing bull****?
How in the **** does he continually get away with this ****ing bull****?
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I drove by my old house two weeks ago. It’s in sw MPLS, two blocks from Edina border. I drive a Subaru expressly for those streets- my Acura TSX couldn’t get around well with the plowing issues.
Honestly I felt like I was in Kabul with how bumpy the streets were. Shockingly bad. And it’s not “the weather” as my Edina streets are plowed wonderfully.
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
Such a liar. And idiots will eat this up.
“JUST IN: President Trump says the Republican Party will have a “far better” health-care proposal than the Affordable Care Act if President Obama’s signature health-care law is thrown out by the Supreme Court in a current legal challenge.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...pledges-far-better-health-plan-than-obamacare
Such a liar. And idiots will eat this up.
“JUST IN: President Trump says the Republican Party will have a “far better” health-care proposal than the Affordable Care Act if President Obama’s signature health-care law is thrown out by the Supreme Court in a current legal challenge.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...pledges-far-better-health-plan-than-obamacare
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
OK, then show us it now.
It's a trap, it's a trap, it's a trap, trap, trap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v36B3KRKiME
OK, then show us it now.
It's a trap, it's a trap, it's a trap, trap, trap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v36B3KRKiME
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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
Seattle still has 75% of its residential areas zoned for single family housing
that's a big limit on potential supply
https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...oning-is-damaging-seattle-and-needs-changing/
Seattle still has 75% of its residential areas zoned for single family housing
that's a big limit on potential supply
https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...oning-is-damaging-seattle-and-needs-changing/
Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!
They wont show it to you until is passes and dumpy signs it.
Which we know won't happen, and they will call D's obstructionists.
They wont show it to you until is passes and dumpy signs it.
Which we know won't happen, and they will call D's obstructionists.
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